US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

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More changes expected include a McMaster departure soon, as NBC recently reported. Among replacements, Tillerson had expressed concerns about working with Bolton.

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) March 13, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

xp: seemed like he was about to cry or have a stroke. Not sure which.

how's life, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link

i imagine that he's pretty stoked to get back to making a ton of money at exxon again

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link

“I hope Tillerson is sad because his ego is shattered and not because he believes with good reason that we are on the verge of World War III”-David Kilon

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link

People close to John McEntee said problems related to online gambling and mishandling of his taxes prevented him from gaining the clearance necessary for the role as Trump's personal assistant. https://t.co/SNtxxdfi93

— Tim Hanrahan (@TimJHanrahan) March 13, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

was "No chaos, only great energy!" this month because damn that would've made a great thread title

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

Yeah, that was last week.

how's life, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

damn. time flies

I knew this administration would be a total shit show but I was not expecting it to be this consistent. like every single week brings "infrastructure week" jokes

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

An effort to rip off the bandaid fast

Huh. I thought Trump's main kink was pee.

I leprecan't even. (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

JUST IN: Schumer says at this point he is not calling in Democrats to oppose Pompeo and Haspel, but wants to hear from them first pic.twitter.com/mY0DSYHF7D

— Reuters Politics (@ReutersPolitics) March 13, 2018

ok I'm starting to think Chuck might not be the person for the job

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

McEntee looks kinda like a young Charles Grodin.

burzum buddies (brownie), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link

isn't that what leaders do -- wait for their subordinates to issue orders?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link

Huh. I thought Trump's main kink was pee.

apparently he also enjoys BDSM

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/is-the-stormy-story-more-damaging-than-we-thought

can't wait for the spectacle of large portions of the left pretending to get worked up about common sexual practices while the party of hypocritical moralizing bible-thumpers look the other way

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link

Schumer is the Fucking Worst

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

I think the calculation is that you spend your energy fighting other battles. Pompeo and Haspel are not wholly unqualified, like DeVos is; they are just the abhorrent norm among officials approved by the Republican right wing. Since they'll be confirmed anyway, Schumer's letting Democratic senators pick their battles.

It does undercut any unified message of principled opposition, but the Democrats have never been good at that sort of thing.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

Schumer held his caucus together impressively during last spring's confirmation hearings; I guess he figures he has other things on his mind.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

can't wait for the spectacle of large portions of the left pretending to get worked up about common sexual practices while the party of hypocritical moralizing bible-thumpers look the other way

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:14 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Can't wait for a vocal minority of the left to go on about how it's more important to respect the rights of the kink community than to play judo with the self-conception of uptight or mysoginistic trads in service of the effort to bring down one of the most significant threats to world lives or even civilization.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link

Never mind the potential legal significance of such facts to maybe the biggest criminal investigation in American history

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link

www.moovaughn.org

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link

oh fuck off. trads and evangelicals could not be clearer that they hired a manager and enforcer and don't give a fuck what he does or says. they will not be shamed by hypocrisy -- have they ever? in our history? it will in no way bring him down. getting church lady on this shit will do one thing only and that's laugh at other people's lives.

i'm still not convinced President Pence will be better. Trump's incoherence and energy for nothing but boodling is about as good as we can hope for from unified GOP government

goole, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link

xp lol

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link

I didn't say anything about hypocrisy

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

I need no convincing that Pence will be worse. Still no reason to keep Trump. It wouldn't surprise me if Mueller's waiting for Dems to pick up the House so he can formally bring his charges.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link

http://www.grubstreet.com/2018/03/trump-ordered-rex-tillerson-to-eat-caesar-salad.html

In a private room in China’s Great Hall of the People in November, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson sat with President Donald Trump and other U.S. officials as their hosts delivered plates of wilted Caesar salad.

Mr. Trump, in the midst of a five-country tour of Asia, grew concerned the untouched greens would offend the Chinese, according to people familiar with the matter. So he ordered Mr. Tillerson to start. “Rex,” he said, “eat the salad.”

, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

"..and then eat my salad. Because I'm not eating a salad. I'm the President."

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

Eat the Salad, My Ass (I Will Never Eat the Salad)

frogbs, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

.@shearm & @maggieNYT capture how Trump 2020 campaign is becoming dumping ground for ousted WH officials - https://t.co/tnUM5tEZA3

— Eliana Johnson (@elianayjohnson) March 13, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

And what I am saying is that it's fair and right and good and effective to tell the kind of trash that gets off on "lock her up" and "pocahontas" and "very strong"/"very rough" etc., whatever sort of religion they may or may not claim (and many are not religious at all, let alone 'evangelicals'), that their hero gets off on getting peed on or slapped by women, especially when the stakes are as high as they are.

Maybe a large segment of Trump superfans will come out as kinksters themselves and we'll see a new element introduced into his arena rallies, and more likely the vast majority will yes dismiss it all as "fake news" (which doesn't mean they won't believe it, they'll just choose as much as possible not to acknowledge or even think about it), but if you think it will have no effect, you're kidding yourself just as much the strawman you think believes it will bring him down.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

Referring to the impact upon supporters in a vacuum also completely ignores the impact upon Trump himself.

Which may be significant - https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/us/politics/donald-trump-interviews.html

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

When Haberman or whoever says Trump aides "are shocked and dismayed" whom can she mean? Who's left?

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

Stephen Millier, Scott Baio, taco bowl

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

Sen. Feinstein, who led the Senate Intel torture report, has kind words for Trump's pick to be CIA director, Gina Haspel. "We've had a long personal talk," she said about the Bush-era programs. "Everything I know is that she has been a good deputy director of the CIA."

— Jeremy Herb (@jeremyherb) March 13, 2018

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

ignores the impact upon Trump himself.

beanbag sorta otm here

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

And what I am saying is that it's fair and right and good and effective to tell the kind of trash that gets off on "lock her up" and "pocahontas" and "very strong"/"very rough" that their hero gets off on getting peed on or slapped by women, especially when the stakes are as high as they are.

i'll guarantee you now, that is not going to be effective at all

Yes, let me just defer to your expert overseas analysis.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link

Unless the impact on Trump is "causes him to resign," who cares? Has making Trump angry and confused ever resulted in something *positive*?

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

I think it's important to distinguish btw sexual moralizing, kink shaming, etc., and using/abusing/silencing and generally exploiting women for Trump Inc., and if in the process there is add'l damage to the contorted logic of evangelical Republicans that's all gravy

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link

Yes, let me just defer to your expert overseas analysis.

― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:08 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the guy with the travel/haircut advice, right?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link

Yes, let me just defer to your expert overseas analysis.


thx that’s v kind

there's no point talking small ball shit with you dude. the late obama and early trump years have completely erased my patience. build a movement that can beat back the right wing or i don't care. that's it. we desperately need a new birth of freedom: inviolable voting rights, a national health plan, zero-carbon infrastructure and an end to the militarization of american life. you make promises to improve the majority's material lives or you're going to lose -- and it won't even matter if you win

this desperate wishing for sex tapes or a claque of spooks, prosecutors and crankhead lawyers to save us and make everything normal again is just past pathetic at this point, into actively malignant. we are wasting the world's time chasing this shit around. it doesn't matter and it won't work. who gives a shit what "mikeibarb" thinks the president thinks? the country was a violent, rotting empire before the GOP was too hollowed out to resist a bigot gameshow host.

the most dangerous things he's doing -- provoking war with iran and n korea, wretched tax cuts, domestic terror via ICE, fanatics and privatizers overseeing exec dept's -- aren't out of the GOP or even Dem mainstream and would be happening at about the same rate no matter who was in office. we are abusively governed but trump matters only a fraction of that.

on just an aesthetic note, the idea of listening to josh marshall and joan walsh talking about kinky sex makes me want to join hezbollah, hi NSA, eat shit, peace

goole, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link

There are many Trump supporters who are not 'evangelicals', real or fake, including but not limited to many 'working-class white' Northerners of no particular religious bent, starchy Main Street Republican WASPs, right-leaning catholics of various degrees of practice, modernity-trepidatious small-town followers, urbanity-trepidatious suburbanites, and the misogynistic 'alt-right'.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link

^^^bigtime xp 2 goole

gbx, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

"we desperately need a new birth of freedom: inviolable voting rights, a national health plan, zero-carbon infrastructure and an end to the militarization of american life. you make promises to improve the majority's material lives or you're going to lose "

The belief that the 'majority' of the American public connects all but one element from the list (and not a 'national health plan' precisely but inchoately-expressed improvements to the existing regime) to the improvement of their 'material lives' is about the most desperate, time-wasting shit I can imagine.

Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link

Like I don't know how to break this to you my dude but 90% of "'working-class white' Northerners of no particular religious bent, starchy Main Street Republican WASPs, right-leaning catholics of various degrees of practice, modernity-trepidatious small-town followers, urbanity-trepidatious suburbanites, and the misogynistic 'alt-right'" are high-fiving each other over the idea of boning a porn actress.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

giantess, eh

RIDING GIANTESS

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

what's sfm?

how's life, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

how giant is she

she looks pretty tall

j., Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

the most dangerous things he's doing -- provoking war with iran and n korea, wretched tax cuts, domestic terror via ICE, fanatics and privatizers overseeing exec dept's -- aren't out of the GOP or even Dem mainstream and would be happening at about the same rate no matter who was in office. we are abusively governed but trump matters only a fraction of that.

Let us remember that Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, and Marco Rubio jerked off at night to all these things but could speak in semi-coherent English.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link

There's a certain poetry in America's favorite new oil-producing state having "squirting" as its #1 search term.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link


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