Your 2020 Presidential Candidate Speculation Thread

demz what?

demz nutz

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they seem to be doing good with Generic Democrat vs. Trump in all those polls. they just need someone with no personal opinions, no past history, no way to speak to the public, no physical body, etc.

an...al gore rhythm...if you will

well done

haha

holy shit

"if Gillibrand sticks to eschewing corporate PAC donations and will unambiguously argue for single payer i think she'd probably do ok at bridging the Bernie wing and the With Her Still wing"

there's already a contingent that hates her for going after Franken (a contingent that has chalked the entire franken thing up to russian interference) and a good portion of those people seem to be bernie people, so I don't know.

really? i thought they were mostly hillary ppl --- most of the bernie-lovin lefties i follow on twitter seem pretty nonplussed by anything to do with "russian interference"

the narrative that russia did everything bad seems to have been most enthusiastically embraced by centrists unwilling to confront the fact that the dems made some pretty dumb decisions in the election, but maybe i'm off base here idk

if you mean they're perplexed why anyone would go that off the deep end into russian interference, yeah

sorry i shouldn't be snotty about the actual meaning of 'nonplussed.' your post is otm, not off base at all

Ordinarily the specter of Russian interference, apart from actual manipulation of the vote totals, would seem like a fairly small splash in a very big pond, but there are plenty of reasons why this does not apply to 2016, an election where the distortions created by the electoral college allowed a minority of voters (~3 million fewer votes) to elect the president, and the three most decisive states were decided by extremely thin margins. Not to mention that the candidate who benefitted from these anomalous events to become POTUS is a racist, semi-literate narcissist with proto-fascist leanings.

Under the circumstances, if Russia intervened sufficiently to help create this result, the majority, who voted against it, should be furious.

Someone said something about an exhaustive list? I won't go that far, but I'll list about two dozen of the likeliest Democratic candidates (at least 1/3 of whom likely won't end up running), and some of the likelier also-runs:

Joe Biden
Cory Booker
Sherrod Brown
Steve Bullock
Andrew Cuomo
John Delaney
Eric Garcetti
Kirsten Gillibrand
Luis Gutierrez
Kamala Harris
John Hickenlooper
Eric Holder (or Sally Yates?)
Jay Inslee
Van Jones (as Oprah's campaign manager?)
Amy Klobuchar
Mitch Landrieu
Terry McAuliffe
Jeff Merkley
Martin O'Malley
Deval Patrick
Tim Ryan
Bernie Sanders
Tom Steyer
Elizabeth Warren

Might run to make Joe Biden look youthful?: Jerry Brown
Might run to constantly poke Andrew Cuomo?: Bill de Blasio
Might run to No Elizabeth Warren?: Gina Raimondo
Might run for Vice President/as surrogate?: Cheri Bustos, Julian Castro, Jason Kander, Patrick Kennedy, Seth Moulton, Chris Murphy, Eric Swalwell
Might run to support Putin/Trump?: Tulsi Gabbard, Dennis Kucinich

Possible Republican challengers if Trump remains in office: Mark Cuban, Jeff Flake, John Kasich, Mitt Romney

Possible Republican candidates if Trump is removed from office: Steve Bannon, Marsha Blackburn, Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, John Kasich, Nikki Haley, Mark Meadows, Mike Pence, Marco Rubio, Ben Sasse, Rick Scott, Scott Walker

Possible Independent tickets if Trump is the nominee and Dems nominate a Sanders-type figure: Michael Bloomberg/Mike Mullen, John Kasich/John Hickenlooper, Howard Schultz/Mark Cuban or vice versa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1SdjRSqqHE

I think Biden wants to run and today is more likely than not to do so, but not sure he'll be better than 50-50 next year. I think a handful of Senators may run, but that Klobuchar won't, that probably only one (at best) of Brown/Merkley(/Ryan) will, and have my doubts about both Booker and Harris, though at this point I expect both Sanders and Warren, even if less sure as to the latter. The Governors are harder to read at this stage, by design, but I expect at least one each from East and West, and maybe two. Garcetti appears to be running, and not sure he'll be the only big- (or smaller-)city mayor, but he's the only one I'd put above 50%. The out-of-offices I'm pretty skeptical of, though Patrick, e.g., may be likelier if Biden begs off. What Steyer's up to, I have no idea. I'll guess maybe 12-15 contenders.

i assume de blasio will be running. he has enough national recognition and is very tall, so he would seem likely to attract enough support to be considered a Serious Candidate, at least at the beginning.

knew it was gabb before i finished scrolling down

btw your list is insanely long

I like Merkely. He has a strong set of progressive positions he can push. But he'd really have to catch fire to have any chance. He's a little-known name, from a small state, and not very charismatic, although the same could be said of Bernie.

otoh, Bernie lost the nomination in what was essentially a two-person field by Super Tuesday. I don't think Merkely can stand out in the crowd that will be running this time.

btw your list is insanely long

― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:40 PM (forty-one seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Also distinguished. But not exhaustive.

I endeavored to list those likeliest to run, not those likeliest to succeed. I think there's a serious prospect of Merkley running, though he may well be among the drop-out-before-or-right-after-Iowa cohort.

Everybody I know in Oregon loves Merkley. I'm on the same page with a lot of his positions, but what a drip. He's the Tim Pawlenty of righty politics.

(I still lol when I remember Lawrence O'Donnell 100% GUARANTEED that Tim Pawlenty would be the GOP nominee shortly before he dropped out of the race.)

*lefty

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/286/197/c6c.jpg

What matters most...no the only thing that matters to me is what their position was on TPP

"if Gillibrand sticks to eschewing corporate PAC donations and will unambiguously argue for single payer i think she'd probably do ok at bridging the Bernie wing and the With Her Still wing"

there's already a contingent that hates her for going after Franken (a contingent that has chalked the entire franken thing up to russian interference) and a good portion of those people seem to be bernie people, so I don't know.

― akm, Monday, March 12, 2018 9:20 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really? i thought they were mostly hillary ppl --- most of the bernie-lovin lefties i follow on twitter seem pretty nonplussed by anything to do with "russian interference"

the narrative that russia did everything bad seems to have been most enthusiastically embraced by centrists unwilling to confront the fact that the dems made some pretty dumb decisions in the election, but maybe i'm off base here idk

― gbx, Monday, March 12, 2018 10:15 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

like legit people with any visibility or just the trolls that go on her facebook page and vomit rage every time she has a sponsored post? like i'm genuinely asking.

bc i've seen a whole lot of the latter and i don't want to be 'that guy' but if i were working for the GOP i'd figure we might as well start sowing discord/ kneecapping potentially strong Dem contenders ASAP.

the people who claim everything is related to russia and every person on twitter is a russian bot are a cancer

although I did enjoy the acrobatics when it was revealed Shareblue has been paying for a bunch of questionable twitter retweets

obviously it's a russian double-blind to entrap them

Interesting question is to what degree Biden's entry clears the 'establishment' field, with sub-query regarding his reported consideration of a ticket candidacy, the likelihood of which seems highly questionable.

expanded medicare/healthcare for all or im not voting. Dems been hyping health reform since the 90s. its a dealbreaker.

https://apnews.com/df86b8eace314fa6ab384dae96780fd2/Flake-eyes-2020-primary-challenge-to-stop-Trump

My distinguished record of challenging trump involves some strongly worded speeches and voting for every fucking thing he supports

romney is the one i'm concerned about.

concern about what? he's just about got Orin's Utah senate seat in the bag. if he runs against Trump, it will be an echo of Teddy vs. Jimmy in 1980.

i'm not saying this is the most likely scenario, but it is possible that trump won't be run in 2020, for any variety of reasons (impeachment, economic crash leading to him deciding not to run again, maybe he'll just die, etc). in that scenario, i think romney would be one of the frontrunners for the GOP.

kasich is definitely running in 2020

I’ll let you know who starts hanging out in Iowa for some reason or another. It’s a decent barometer

Kasich supposedly is more wont to run as independent than to primary Trump. Supposedly, but that's probably reflective of an accurate estimation that he wouldn't get far in a primary.

i think it's really hard to guess at what the situation will be like in spring 2020, even more than it usually is 2 away from a primary. the Trump situation is chaotic in so many ways right now - you could be looking at a fractured GOP with an embattled Trump lashing out, a united GOP behind President Pence, we could be in the middle of some new war created by Bolton, Trump, and Pompeo, the economy could crash...who knows. The only thing I know is that I don't trust anyone who claims to know what's going to happen.

not be ageist but romney is deceptively old - currently 71

romney is the one i'm concerned about.

― Karl Malone, Friday, March 16, 2018 6:59 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQaZKquLa5M

he is old, but every election the age thing comes up in a lot of elections but

2016: Trump (70), Clinton (69), Sanders (75)
2012: Romney (65)
2008: McCain (72)

and of course reagan.

The same band of white people who voted against Romney voted against Hillary. It's not like the nation is soul-searching for a sane billionaire to run things.

http://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/03/Michael-Avenatti-37-Thumbnail.jpg

this guy drives race cars and looks ready to murder somebody, I'm in

he looks like one of those facial recognition software research paper "average face" images

lmao like matt lauer, vlad putin, and john travolta mixed into one face

there's at least 10% christian slater in there as well

wait a goddamn minute

indeed there's something a little automatonic there, that's just gravy

https://i.imgur.com/5XGvVmJ.jpg

eh, not so much i guess