The Martin Shkreli trial roffles thread

imagine being such an asshole that even being rich and white couldn’t save you from a hefty prison sentence, that’s like fuckin super-saiyan levels of unpleasantness

By the way:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-09-14/martin-shkreli-s-2-million-wu-tang-album-might-not-be-a-wu-tang-album

he did make a really powerful point in the midst of his tears, though

#MartinShkreli is dabbing tissue at his eyes now, his voice wavering and choked with emotion."Many of you who love me, support me and look up to me should reassess your position," he says.

— Stephanie Clifford (@stephcliff) March 9, 2018

no one has really addressed how the masses who love him and look up to him should feel. this is a tough time for shkreliNation

going to jail probably sucks

if only opera man were still around to give us "Shkreli in jaili" tomorrow night

https://slate.com/business/2018/03/martin-shkreli-is-going-to-jail-for-the-wrong-reasons.html

yep

a comeuppance that's hollow, really.

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Here's the thing: I can happily agree with the larger premise of that piece and yet still be quite happy he's going to prison for a few years. The guy was clearly a showoffy, heartless dick to *everyone,* treating absolutely nothing seriously beyond his ranty power trip, and this is what it got him, and that's a chunk of his life gone and a permanent record to boot. Reform the system and target some even more egregious criminals by all means, but c'mon.

Oh for sure. Dude is a scumbag.

imagine being such an asshole that even being rich and white couldn’t save you from a hefty prison sentence, that’s like fuckin super-saiyan levels of unpleasantness

― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Friday, March 9, 2018 4:56 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

again it was the fact that he was a public figure, easily one of the most widely reviled people in America in 2015, and was made an example of. see again: Skilling & Lay, Madoff

Kinda increasingly feeling like people who exist just to smugly wipe their asses with the social contract should be locked up on that basis alone. Or like banish him. Why don't we banish people anymore? I guess I don't know where we'd banish him. Locking him up works for me, sure.

madoff stole from, and embarrassed, rich people. that's why he's in prison for 150 years.

Think this sentence is proof that we will basically accept people being evil predatory fucks, but have zero tolerance for people publicly gloating about it like cartoon villains.

i think this sums up the reasons for the lengthy sentence quite well

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/09/martin-shkreli-sentence-jail-arrogance-sentencing-fraud

Yes, but think it has wider implications that the article doesn't cover

[Outro: Judge]
Guilty, next case

― omar little, Friday, March 9, 2018 1:21 PM (yesterday)

aw fuck yeah

yea even the Daraprim thing was hard to get too worked up about - pharma companies do evil shit like that all the time, Shkreli's job is to make money for his investors and we live in an idiot country where you can do stuff like this (besides, were any patients actually affected by the price hike? I honestly don't know). he's a fucking idiot for continuing to act like a total dipshit even after being nabbed. I know people who've been in legal trouble like this and the #1 priority is to convince the judge that you're not going to be a risk anymore - one guy who probably deserved a 6-year sentence got off w/ 7 months + work release because he was so damn sincere throughout the entire process (plus being a white guy helped). maybe he really wasn't gonna clean up his act but he damn well believed it at the time. Shkreli on the other hand has that Deathdr0ne thing where his entire persona revolves around his open, unrepentant repulsiveness, as though acting like a normal human being for an entire day would cause him to lose his sense of self. it's like Mr Dilbert where he finally found an audience that accepted his awful personality wholesale and thus felt no choice but to dial it up at every opportunity. he fuckin' earned it.

it was very easy to get worked up about the price gouging I completely disagree with you and am kinda shocked to read you say hey it's his job in

My reaction is somewhere in the middle. The gouging was egregious and gross but the level of gross and egregious behavior which is not only acceptable in but also actively expected of a pharma exec probably only differs by a matter of degrees. Like, he's an awful person who should be shot into space but he's also the product of the worst excesses of capitalism and probably not as much of an outlier as we'd like to believe.

i feel the same way as frogbs. Shkreli is an scarecrow & focusing so much ire & glee in his punishment is very silly. this isn't a victory or an achievement of any kind, there is no advancement, corporate gouging & raiding will continue unabated.

Sometimes you gotta hate the player and the game

Like, he's an awful person who should be shot into space

I also don't understand this hyperbolic & vindictive rhetoric, hyper violent & cartoonish. that's Shkreli's default - why copy?

As I mentioned upthread, banishment is probably the best move with someone like this but, because that's an impractical suggestion, I'm now very sincerely proposing that we opt instead to utilize our controversial malcontent-launching technology to send him into orbit. I know human rights organizations like to boo-hoo about all of the asphyxiated douchenozzles currently circling the earth, but what's one more, I ask you.

It's nothing really to celebrate. Here's a cartoon villain to be pointed out when anyone says the parasite class never pay for their crimes, meanwhile all the others of his sort get to look restrained in comparison, and likely get away with worse.

His real crime was coming from a background where he never had the opportunity to learn that the malevolent gloating should be done only behind closed doors. I could almost feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a fucking prick.

As I mentioned upthread, banishment is probably the best move with someone like this but, because that's an impractical suggestion, I'm now very sincerely proposing that we opt instead to utilize our controversial malcontent-launching technology to send him into orbit. I know human rights organizations like to boo-hoo about all of the asphyxiated douchenozzles currently circling the earth, but what's one more, I ask you.

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What can I say, I just lust for his blood. And I have an equal amount of lust for sardonic hyperbole and those who are able to discern its presence in a text.

Lol as if I didn’t pick up on your sarcasm. there’s a scrim of real anger there that ive seen elsewhere & itt that is baffling and very dumb

The actions of unfettered capitalists are often directly at odds with the conduct required to perpetuate society qua society. Thousands of years ago, our hunter-gatherer ancestors would have shunned or banished or beaten to death any upstart who threatened the integrity of their society by flagrantly disregarding their shared values while enjoying the benefits conferred by that society. Things have changed considerably, obvs, but I think many people still have an inherent and understandable repulsion towards those who seek only to exploit their own society without even the illusory courtesy of pretending to care about the world outside themselves. It's an enduring testament to our notions of civility that we generally restrict ourselves to cartoonish reveries and a faith in justice in lieu of forming a mob and driving out the cancerous elements ourselves.

heh

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i normally see that screed used against social welfare recipients but carry on sure

otm

bloodlust in general nagl imo

There's probably an argument to be made that Shkreli actually met the business end of justice in part because he's the rare one-percenter who's shitty at redirecting righteous anger onto some demonized underclass, but it's a saturday night and watching movies is funner than making arguments.

Guys, seriously, don't know where the 'bloodlust' thing even came from itt. I cheered for Shkreli's imprisonment and I made what I thought were obviously ridiculous propositions for his banishment and his ejection into space. Even in the latter case, I'd argue in favor of giving him a lifetime supply of canned goods and a pot to piss in.

look on a board that called for #malegenocide yesterday i dont even know what to believe anymore

imagining the last scene of good bad ugly itt ever since its good

hey flappy and frogbs, have you known anyone who's died from AIDS?

yes

Thousands of years ago, our hunter-gatherer ancestors would have shunned or banished or beaten to death any upstart who threatened the integrity of their society by flagrantly disregarding their shared values while enjoying the benefits conferred by that society.

yeah we also used to hang people publicly times change

good to see this fool go down but obv there are thousands just like him that aren't as blatant/public about it specifically for public justice fantasies OL hinted at and they will get away with it just like they always have bc public bloodlust has been satiated through this jackass sacrifice

hyperbole doesn’t work very well in the middle of what people think is reasoned discourse

I vote each ilx thread gets a big switch at the top and you can view the hyperbolic posts or the debate

Probably just easier to killfile me tbh.

the third setting on the switch turns on the electric chair

Old Lunch should just change his name to New Bloodlust