he was here for quite awhile!
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― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link
My local alt-weekly’s resident Bari Weiss fan wrote a great article today detailing the history of Satanic child abuse hysteria and then comparing it to the current calls for a boycott of a local business over an allegedly racially-motivated firing.
― JoeStork, Friday, 9 March 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link
Did Sommers actually have to cut her speech short as a result of the heckling? That seems like a key point.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link
David French has some words for y'all sliming Bari Weiss!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/03/08/after-a-worried-howard-student-emailed-her-president-about-housing-he-replied-about-her-tone/?utm_term=.162a155e1e56
ahh yeah this is the stuff
― j., Friday, 9 March 2018 05:49 (six years ago) link
grownups with power really are the worst
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 9 March 2018 08:16 (six years ago) link
was the response incorrect do u just not agree with his..........tone......................................
― things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Friday, 9 March 2018 09:09 (six years ago) link
Because I do think that a university's obligation to allow student groups to invite speakers of varying persuasions on various topics, and to allow these speakers to speak without being shut down by hecklers, is greater than an editorial board's (or e.g. the university administration's) obligation to allow someone to insult them privately in their office. Neither is really a free speech issue in the legal sense but I do think there is an academic freedom issue here. Perhaps an argument could be made in cases where e.g. a speaker might single out and harass individual students but I definitely don't think that Christina Hoff Sommers is an example of this.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link
the academic freedom to give a platform to dumb-as-a-rock speakers must be upheld
― War, Famine, Pestilence, Death, Umami (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link
Um, yes, that is my position (although I don't agree that Sommers is dumb as a rock, even when I disagree with her).
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:26 (six years ago) link
I'm glad that's your position but it's important that you know that it's not the position of this particular vein of "free speech activists," whose position is that it's a big problem for free speech if hollering students delay a speech by five minutes, but nbd when speakers with political beliefs that might offend state legislators are barred by the administration from appearing on campus in the first place, or are fired by universities when already employed there.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link
Well, the latter sort concerns me more and my posts to these threads probably show as much. That doesn't mean that one can't be concerned about both things. One can also both be frustrated by the hypocrisy of selective 'free speech activists' and disagree with the parallel that Pareene seems to be implying.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
The local Muslim Students’ Association wanted to invite a speaker to ASU. *The university sent a contract stipulating that any speaker that comes cannot be involved in the BDS movement.*This is a gross violation of free speech*Therefore, we are suing.https://t.co/wWprq2lGOD pic.twitter.com/tzdZ8krRhc— Imraan Siddiqi (@imraansiddiqi) March 2, 2018
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
honestly, fuck bari weiss
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/03/10/a-new-york-times-columnist-blamed-a-far-left-mob-for-her-woes-but-maybe-she-deserves-them/?utm_term=.011ca33e674f
― maura, Sunday, 11 March 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
For this tweet I am being told I am a racist
― j., Sunday, 11 March 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
isnt this the lady with an extensive twitter history of using slurs and shit?
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
ah, this is the lady who thinks Hamilton makes it ok for members of the press to call people immigrants even if they were born in the country
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
Lol: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/david-brooks-times-conservatives.html
― Frederik B, Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link
No, that was Quinn Norton, who was (publicly) hired and sacked within a 24-hour timespan.
― Simon H., Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link
Double lol: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/02/afflictions
― Frederik B, Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/andrew-sullivan-is-this-the-beginning-of-trumps-end.html
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
scroll to the bottom for Sully's weekly screed on lib intolerance
ross 'relentlessly careful and smooth' douthat
― j., Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link
god that's a lot of paragraphs of robert mueller fan fiction
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link
andrew "daddy issues" sullivan
― map, Monday, 12 March 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link
http://text-patterns.thenewatlantis.com/2018/03/more-on-offensive-ideas.html
http://blog.ayjay.org/embrace-the-pain-living-with-the-repugnant-cultural-other/
― j., Monday, 12 March 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link
https://www.minnpost.com/education/2018/03/edina-young-conservatives-club-lawsuit-inspires-bill-legislature
“Let me be very clear, I think the emotion and the fear and the retaliation and the anger and the hurt that we have heard, regarding what has happened in one of our schools — and perhaps many other schools — is something we, as education leaders, need to take very seriously,” Nelson said, referring to Edina high schoolers who’d testified in support of her bill. “I do not believe it’s the job of a teacher to tell a student that his or her opinion — or their parents’ opinions — are wrong. But it is their job to make sure that we have a fair and academic balance when we talk about these controversial issues.”
that's the R talking, about presumably butthurt bad faith conservative highschoolers
― j., Monday, 12 March 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
Edina, huh?
The town so white, Anglo-Saxon and Protestant that it’s school mascot is a fucking hornet.
― kim jong deal (suzy), Monday, 12 March 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2018/03/09/oconomowoc-schools-impose-limits-privilege-discussions-after-parents-complain/407222002/
meanwhile in wisconsin
― j., Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
might be hope for the states yet
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
https://www.thisamericanlife.org/645/my-effing-first-amendment
― obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Saturday, 12 May 2018 19:00 (five years ago) link
Bari Weiss just won a 0,000 prize for good writing https://t.co/Q3rCrMpwA8 pic.twitter.com/nWPQXSmQZM— Hamilton Nolan (@hamiltonnolan) July 18, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link
Remembering this classic from the @CillizzaCNN AMA pic.twitter.com/9XXCyAGIIU— noah ☭ (@voidsrus) July 18, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/26/the-free-speech-panic-censorship-how-the-right-concocted-a-crisis
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 26 July 2018 05:53 (five years ago) link
https://slate.com/technology/2019/07/trigger-warnings-research-shows-they-dont-work-might-hurt.html
― DJI, Friday, 12 July 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
Feeling very triggered by those findings tbrr.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 July 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link
The methods are the same as the 2018 paper, but with a pool of 451 participants who had experienced trauma. (A consent form required for ethical purposes did require that participants acknowledge that they would be reading emotional material, Jones told me, which is sort of a trigger warning all on its own but a required step of the process).
hmmm, seems like that might potentially stack the pool of people involved.
― Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 July 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link
Sarah Silverman aka the cancelled:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/aug/12/sarah-silverman-fired-from-film-blackface-photo
― pomenitul, Monday, 12 August 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link
https://gen.medium.com/my-semester-with-the-snowflakes-888285f0e662
― subway Stalinist (sleeve), Monday, 30 December 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-suspended-saying-chinese-word-sounds-english-slur
― pomenitul, Monday, 12 October 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
Here's the issue:
The students said some of them had voiced their concern to Patton during his lecture, but that he’d used the word in following class sections anyway.
He wasn't fired, he was just taken off this class. Which seems entirely sensible if he's going to be so insensitive to the concerns of his students.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 October 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
k
― pomenitul, Monday, 12 October 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link
“There are over 10,000 characters in the Chinese written language and to use this phrase, a clear synonym with this derogatory N-Word term, is hurtful and unacceptable to our USC Marshall community.
what exactly is "that that that" a synonym for?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 12 October 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link
Yeah I’m kinda bothered by the fact that master’s candidates don’t understand the definition of synonym
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 12 October 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
presumably they meant "homophone"? but yeah
― rob, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
But to the admin this is certainly a clear case of “you know what we mean” with a fairly straightforward exit strategy
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 12 October 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
Wait till they find out the Spanish word for 'black'.
― pomenitul, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link
uggggggghhh when my office was also the parent center, I sat in on a lot of conversations in Chinese and that word showed up all the time, extremely repetitively, like regularly used 5 or 6 times in succession. The professor is under pressure to dance the correct steps around his students' concerns, but if they were studying or speaking Chinese they would definitely be exposed to it regularly. And then what are you going to do, tell a language speaker that their language is wrong and offensive to you? It's nonsensical.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 12 October 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
It’s like the “like” of Chinese.
― DJI, Monday, 12 October 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
They also said they’d reached out to fellow Chinese students, who “confirmed that the pronunciation of this word is much different than what Professor Patton described in class. The word is most commonly used with a pause in between both syllables.”
Maybe to Chinese speakers the pause is more present, but I couldn't hear it.
Anyway. The fact that this was one lesson in a Communications class means he probably could have chosen other examples.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Monday, 12 October 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link