The Coddling Of The American Mind (Trigger Warning Article In The Atlantic...)

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nyt op-ed seems especially rudderless/clueless these days even for them

Pareene was on ILX?

One of Pareene's best. It even got Lawyers Guns & Money linkage.

he was here for quite awhile!

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My local alt-weekly’s resident Bari Weiss fan wrote a great article today detailing the history of Satanic child abuse hysteria and then comparing it to the current calls for a boycott of a local business over an allegedly racially-motivated firing.

Did Sommers actually have to cut her speech short as a result of the heckling? That seems like a key point.

David French has some words for y'all sliming Bari Weiss!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2018/03/08/after-a-worried-howard-student-emailed-her-president-about-housing-he-replied-about-her-tone/?utm_term=.162a155e1e56

ahh yeah this is the stuff

grownups with power really are the worst

was the response incorrect do u just not agree with his..........tone......................................

Did Sommers actually have to cut her speech short as a result of the heckling? That seems like a key point.

Because I do think that a university's obligation to allow student groups to invite speakers of varying persuasions on various topics, and to allow these speakers to speak without being shut down by hecklers, is greater than an editorial board's (or e.g. the university administration's) obligation to allow someone to insult them privately in their office. Neither is really a free speech issue in the legal sense but I do think there is an academic freedom issue here. Perhaps an argument could be made in cases where e.g. a speaker might single out and harass individual students but I definitely don't think that Christina Hoff Sommers is an example of this.

the academic freedom to give a platform to dumb-as-a-rock speakers must be upheld

Um, yes, that is my position (although I don't agree that Sommers is dumb as a rock, even when I disagree with her).

I'm glad that's your position but it's important that you know that it's not the position of this particular vein of "free speech activists," whose position is that it's a big problem for free speech if hollering students delay a speech by five minutes, but nbd when speakers with political beliefs that might offend state legislators are barred by the administration from appearing on campus in the first place, or are fired by universities when already employed there.

Well, the latter sort concerns me more and my posts to these threads probably show as much. That doesn't mean that one can't be concerned about both things. One can also both be frustrated by the hypocrisy of selective 'free speech activists' and disagree with the parallel that Pareene seems to be implying.

The local Muslim Students’ Association wanted to invite a speaker to ASU.
*The university sent a contract stipulating that any speaker that comes cannot be involved in the BDS movement.
*This is a gross violation of free speech
*Therefore, we are suing.https://t.co/wWprq2lGOD pic.twitter.com/tzdZ8krRhc

— Imraan Siddiqi (@imraansiddiqi) March 2, 2018

honestly, fuck bari weiss

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2018/03/10/a-new-york-times-columnist-blamed-a-far-left-mob-for-her-woes-but-maybe-she-deserves-them/?utm_term=.011ca33e674f

For this tweet I am being told I am a racist

isnt this the lady with an extensive twitter history of using slurs and shit?

ah, this is the lady who thinks Hamilton makes it ok for members of the press to call people immigrants even if they were born in the country

Lol: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/david-brooks-times-conservatives.html

isnt this the lady with an extensive twitter history of using slurs and shit?

No, that was Quinn Norton, who was (publicly) hired and sacked within a 24-hour timespan.

Double lol: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/02/afflictions

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/andrew-sullivan-is-this-the-beginning-of-trumps-end.html

scroll to the bottom for Sully's weekly screed on lib intolerance

ross 'relentlessly careful and smooth' douthat

god that's a lot of paragraphs of robert mueller fan fiction

andrew "daddy issues" sullivan

http://text-patterns.thenewatlantis.com/2018/03/more-on-offensive-ideas.html

http://blog.ayjay.org/embrace-the-pain-living-with-the-repugnant-cultural-other/

https://www.minnpost.com/education/2018/03/edina-young-conservatives-club-lawsuit-inspires-bill-legislature

“Let me be very clear, I think the emotion and the fear and the retaliation and the anger and the hurt that we have heard, regarding what has happened in one of our schools — and perhaps many other schools — is something we, as education leaders, need to take very seriously,” Nelson said, referring to Edina high schoolers who’d testified in support of her bill. “I do not believe it’s the job of a teacher to tell a student that his or her opinion — or their parents’ opinions — are wrong. But it is their job to make sure that we have a fair and academic balance when we talk about these controversial issues.”

that's the R talking, about presumably butthurt bad faith conservative highschoolers

Edina, huh?

The town so white, Anglo-Saxon and Protestant that it’s school mascot is a fucking hornet.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/education/2018/03/09/oconomowoc-schools-impose-limits-privilege-discussions-after-parents-complain/407222002/

meanwhile in wisconsin

might be hope for the states yet

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/645/my-effing-first-amendment

Bari Weiss just won a 0,000 prize for good writing https://t.co/Q3rCrMpwA8 pic.twitter.com/nWPQXSmQZM

— Hamilton Nolan (@hamiltonnolan) July 18, 2018

Remembering this classic from the @CillizzaCNN AMA pic.twitter.com/9XXCyAGIIU

— noah ☭ (@voidsrus) July 18, 2018

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/jul/26/the-free-speech-panic-censorship-how-the-right-concocted-a-crisis

https://slate.com/technology/2019/07/trigger-warnings-research-shows-they-dont-work-might-hurt.html

Feeling very triggered by those findings tbrr.

The methods are the same as the 2018 paper, but with a pool of 451 participants who had experienced trauma. (A consent form required for ethical purposes did require that participants acknowledge that they would be reading emotional material, Jones told me, which is sort of a trigger warning all on its own but a required step of the process).

hmmm, seems like that might potentially stack the pool of people involved.

Sarah Silverman aka the cancelled:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/aug/12/sarah-silverman-fired-from-film-blackface-photo

https://gen.medium.com/my-semester-with-the-snowflakes-888285f0e662

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/09/08/professor-suspended-saying-chinese-word-sounds-english-slur

Here's the issue:

The students said some of them had voiced their concern to Patton during his lecture, but that he’d used the word in following class sections anyway.

He wasn't fired, he was just taken off this class. Which seems entirely sensible if he's going to be so insensitive to the concerns of his students.

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“There are over 10,000 characters in the Chinese written language and to use this phrase, a clear synonym with this derogatory N-Word term, is hurtful and unacceptable to our USC Marshall community.

what exactly is "that that that" a synonym for?

Yeah I’m kinda bothered by the fact that master’s candidates don’t understand the definition of synonym

presumably they meant "homophone"? but yeah

But to the admin this is certainly a clear case of “you know what we mean” with a fairly straightforward exit strategy

Wait till they find out the Spanish word for 'black'.