US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

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Yes, Black Mirror now seems quaint and a little naïve. Excuse me while I go die real quick.

I'm not meltdown. (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link

Re: that crazy UAE/Trump/Nader/Prince stuff, ties into this from a while ago:

The NYT version of the Seychelles meeting adds new significance to this exchange during Erik Prince's congressional testimony.

He had insisted news accounts of the meeting were "fabricated" -- until he seemed to slip and acknowledge the existence of a transcript. pic.twitter.com/XVr3jhDhF8

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) March 7, 2018

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

lol what a dumbshit

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

I hate it when I lie ahead of myself

erry red flag (f. hazel), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link

idk maybe he's assuming there was 'FISA abuse' going on and texts were intercepted?

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:04 (six years ago) link

The texts that didn’t exist....

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:08 (six years ago) link

i can't even keep track of who these weird dumbass grifters are anymore

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

Prince is a big fish.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link

Is this the Blackwater guy whose sister is Betsy Devos?

omar little, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

OK I knew about Prince and what a shitstain he is but I did NOT know that, somehow

Simon H., Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:30 (six years ago) link

oh that's the best part of this whole disgusting mess

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link

"best"

sleeve, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link

This reminds me of Bill Clinton’s “rich, soft wanting” only funnier. https://t.co/01Dkqz8vNN

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) March 6, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:34 (six years ago) link

xp Prince is also the guy who met w/ Trump last year to propose a private intelligence agency at the service of the president

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link

future Senator Erik Prince is going to awesome

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

Finally read the linked nyt piece on that Nader character and im tryna figure out his planning to visit mara lago in january and not envisioning an absolute swarm of fbi/mueller bees awaiting his deplaning.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:47 (six years ago) link

cant tell if mara lago is a good drag name or not

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link

I can't figure out why he would fly to Washington to go to Mar-A-Lago.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:54 (six years ago) link

Prince deserves to die in a lake of fire, don't get me wrong, but that transcript of conversation doesn't seem that damning to me? He could easily have been saying "What hypothetical official is supposedly reading this hypothetical transcript?"

Conic section rebellion 44 (in orbit), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/03/07/why-isnt-wall-street-freaking-out-about-trump-217228

as expected, it boils down to this:

If there is a unified field theory for why Trump’s highly unusual presidency doesn’t ruffle Wall Street, it’s this: Beyond all the noise and bluster, he’s mostly a standard-issue Republican. At the agency level, his appointees have championed fewer regulations on every conceivable industry, rolling back or postponing one Barack Obama-era restriction after another. Trump also signed a bill slashing the corporate tax rate nearly in half, fattening corporate profits, and unleashing dividend payments and stock buybacks, all of which help drive share prices higher.

&

Part of the reason markets don’t react much to the North Korea talk, the senior trader said, is that there is really no way to model what an actual conflict would look like, so people just assume it won’t happen. “How can you even analyze a nuclear war?” the senior trader said. “There was a chance a few weeks ago that we were going to enter a nuclear war, and markets didn’t react to that. … And yes, that is pretty crazy.”

and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link

on one hand, several dozen of the world's major cities were obliterated in a nuclear war and are now mostly silent except for the occasional irradiated ghoul scavenging for food in the rubble

but on the other, i TOTALLY sold high just before all that happened! buy the dip!!

and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

Mara Large-O would work better

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

windfallout

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

i rescreened mystic pizza a while back and mar-a-lago is in it (via lifestyle of the rich & famous)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osIL3M7os_o

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

Mara Large-O would work better

― jamiesummerz, Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:04 AM (fifty-six minutes ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzolCu-QLw0

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

should we have a "rolling labor unrest" thread or something? Oklahoma teachers strike is happening, Kentucky may follow

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-06/could-west-virginia-s-wildcat-teachers-strike-spread

Simon H., Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

Kentucky is the one that would really blow my mind, kinda.

Also, this is probably completely coincidental, but 100s of thousands of Danish workers are probably going on strike next month, and I am wondering a bit if there are any parallels.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link

Labor specific thread may not be a bad idea, curious what other people think. There’s too much news right now, stuff is easily getting buried.

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

FWIW the most level-headed piece I've seen about the WVa strike comes from Sarah Jones at The Nation.

https://newrepublic.com/article/147307/cost-west-virginia-teachers-strike

Simon H., Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

Paging marcos, let's you and me go to this: http://fox8.com/2018/03/07/porn-star-stormy-daniels-to-appear-in-cleveland/

NB: Good work, machine generated news stories: "The porn star claims she had a sex with Trump years ago."

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

haha phil

marcos, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

one (1) sex

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link

The Prince stuff is old news to Abramson-readers.

He's been under investigation by the Justice Dept since 2016 btw.

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link

Abramson

noooooooope

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

Ah, the penny drops.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

say what?

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

Someone dropped a penny on Trump from the top of the Empire State.

Simon H., Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

Gotta start somewhere.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

racial polarization in texas:
–state is 39% hispanic, 42% white non-hispanic
–115/181 lawmakers are currently Republican. next session there will be at max 2 hispanic Rs, possibly 1 or 0
–66/181 lawmakers are currently Democratic. five are white non-hispanic

— chris hooks (@cd_hooks) March 7, 2018

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link

Convenient.

Hope Hicks told the House Intelligence Committee last week that one of her email accounts was hacked, @NBCNews reports: https://t.co/lbdOwgQbaz

— Jenna Johnson (@wpjenna) March 7, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

BUT HER EM... um, oh, wait.

Fwiw, hacking claims also attended the furors around Anthony Weiner, David Petraeus, and Mark Sanford.

tater totalitarian (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link

Odd fellow, this president.

NEW - via @nytmike and me, Mueller has learned of two instances where Trump spoke to witnesses about issues related to their appearances w investigators https://t.co/bo7pcLjkQE

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) March 7, 2018

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

In one episode, the president told an aide that the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, should issue a statement denying a New York Times article in January. The article said Mr. McGahn told investigators that the president once asked him to fire the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III. Mr. McGahn never released a statement and later had to remind the president that he had indeed asked Mr. McGahn to see that Mr. Mueller was dismissed, the people said.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:53 (six years ago) link

Full story is even better:

Mr. Trump’s interactions with Mr. McGahn unfolded in the days after the Jan. 25 Times article, which said that Mr. McGahn threatened to quit last June after the president asked him to fire the special counsel. After the article was published, the White House staff secretary, Rob Porter, told Mr. McGahn that the president wanted him to release a statement saying that the story was not true, the people said.

Mr. Porter, who resigned last month amid a domestic abuse scandal, told Mr. McGahn the president had suggested he might “get rid of” Mr. McGahn if he chose not to challenge the article, the people briefed on the conversation said.

Mr. McGahn did not publicly deny the article, and the president later confronted him in the Oval Office in front of the White House chief of staff, John F. Kelly, according to the people.

The president said he had never ordered Mr. McGahn to fire the special counsel. Mr. McGahn replied that the president was wrong and that he had in fact asked Mr. McGahn in June to call the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, to tell him that the special counsel had a series of conflicts that disqualified him for overseeing the investigation and that he had to be dismissed. The president told Mr. McGahn that he did not remember the discussion that way.

Mr. Trump moved on, pointing out that Mr. McGahn had never told him that he was going to resign over the order to fire the special counsel. Mr. McGahn acknowledged that that was true but said that he had told senior White House officials at the time that he was going to quit.

It is not clear how the confrontation was resolved.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:55 (six years ago) link

i rescreened mystic pizza a while back and mar-a-lago is in it (via lifestyle of the rich & famous)

― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:29 AM (six hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hope when this is all over that everyone can come together and agree to George Lucas the shit out of every cultural artifact that contains a non-pejorative mention or depiction of Trump. It's such a fucking bummer every time I hear his name in old tv shows and songs.

I'm not meltdown. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 8 March 2018 00:04 (six years ago) link

it's really disheartening and stressful when you're trying to unwind with some mindless 80s trash and Trump appears out of nowhere in some hitherto harmless idiom like some piece of unexploded cultural ordinance

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 8 March 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link

Yes this...huh?

President Trump’s lawyer secretly obtained a restraining order last week to prevent Stormy Daniels from speaking out about her alleged affair with Trump https://t.co/tvhljhVQEf

— NYT Politics (@nytpolitics) March 7, 2018

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 March 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link

does anyone even care about this (apart from melania)?

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 March 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link


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