http://money.cnn.com/2018/03/05/news/martin-shkreli-wu-tang-forfeiture/index.html
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Monday, 5 March 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link
How many times they gonna take away this dude's wu-tang record? Feel like I was reading that same exact article years ago
― Dan I., Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:23 (six years ago) link
Aw.
shkreli is crying at his sentencing right now— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 17:36 (six years ago) link
what a fuckin snowflake
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
Getting weird over there
"There's no conspiracy to take down Martin Shkreli. I took down Martin Shkreli with my disgraceful actions." lol damn dude— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018
lmao the judge is talking about lauren duca— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
Oh my god.
oh also earlier shkreli's own lawyer mentioned wanting to punch him in the face so there's that— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
And bye!
martin shkreli was just sentenced to 7 years in prison— allie conti (@allie_conti) March 9, 2018
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 March 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
wow, that is unexpected. I didn't know people actually went to prison for this shit
― frogbs, Friday, 9 March 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link
bernie madoff? ENRON men? shkreli followed their lead, made a high profile "example"
― flappy bird, Friday, 9 March 2018 19:09 (six years ago) link
Now I'm crying. With laughter.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
I didn't know people actually went to prison for this shit
They never do in the UK, they know how to treat rich scumbags over here.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
federal time has minimal parole too. he'll be in for at least 6 years. only ways out early is exemplary behavior (lol) or a drug treatment program
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link
xxp well yea but his crimes seemed relatively minor when compared to Bernie Madoff or Enron. what was the grand total of prison years served in the subprime mortgage collapse?
obviously a well-earned sentence either way
― frogbs, Friday, 9 March 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
[Outro: Judge]Guilty, next case
― omar little, Friday, 9 March 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link
xxp well yea but his crimes seemed relatively minor when compared to Bernie Madoff or Enron. what was the grand total of prison years served in the subprime mortgage collapse?obviously a well-earned sentence either way― frogbs, Friday, March 9, 2018 7:17 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― frogbs, Friday, March 9, 2018 7:17 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the key way to do time is to be flagrant as fuck about it. enron was made an example of because it was super public, had a ton of photos of people on the street with their boxes and shit - but no other company had similar circumstances (there were other prosecutions of vile CEOS like adelphia, etc but not as high profile I guess).
the financial crisis perps had the advantage of cover. EVERYONE was guilty as fuck so it was impossible to make an example out of anyone in particular. the enron trial was also time consuming, expensive and not a guaranteed win. no ambitious prosecutor was going to take all that one and risk losing.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link
lmao omar
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 9 March 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link
yea that makes sense
hard to imagine Shkreli's persona didn't come into play here
― frogbs, Friday, 9 March 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link
imagine being such an asshole that even being rich and white couldn’t save you from a hefty prison sentence, that’s like fuckin super-saiyan levels of unpleasantness
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
By the way:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-09-14/martin-shkreli-s-2-million-wu-tang-album-might-not-be-a-wu-tang-album
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 9 March 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link
he did make a really powerful point in the midst of his tears, though
#MartinShkreli is dabbing tissue at his eyes now, his voice wavering and choked with emotion."Many of you who love me, support me and look up to me should reassess your position," he says.— Stephanie Clifford (@stephcliff) March 9, 2018
― and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Friday, 9 March 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
no one has really addressed how the masses who love him and look up to him should feel. this is a tough time for shkreliNation
― and in my opinionation, the sun is gonna surely shine♪♫ (Karl Malone), Friday, 9 March 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link
going to jail probably sucks
― brimstead, Friday, 9 March 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link
if only opera man were still around to give us "Shkreli in jaili" tomorrow night
― the poster's anxiety at the suggested ban (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 March 2018 23:16 (six years ago) link
https://slate.com/business/2018/03/martin-shkreli-is-going-to-jail-for-the-wrong-reasons.html
― DJI, Saturday, 10 March 2018 01:11 (six years ago) link
yep
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 10 March 2018 01:23 (six years ago) link
a comeuppance that's hollow, really.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 10 March 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link
The RZAThe GZAThe SKZA
― calstars, Saturday, 10 March 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link
Here's the thing: I can happily agree with the larger premise of that piece and yet still be quite happy he's going to prison for a few years. The guy was clearly a showoffy, heartless dick to *everyone,* treating absolutely nothing seriously beyond his ranty power trip, and this is what it got him, and that's a chunk of his life gone and a permanent record to boot. Reform the system and target some even more egregious criminals by all means, but c'mon.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 March 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link
Oh for sure. Dude is a scumbag.
― DJI, Saturday, 10 March 2018 02:29 (six years ago) link
― I’m 16 and a member of UKIP’s youth wing, young independence (bizarro gazzara), Friday, March 9, 2018 4:56 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
again it was the fact that he was a public figure, easily one of the most widely reviled people in America in 2015, and was made an example of. see again: Skilling & Lay, Madoff
― flappy bird, Saturday, 10 March 2018 02:48 (six years ago) link
Kinda increasingly feeling like people who exist just to smugly wipe their asses with the social contract should be locked up on that basis alone. Or like banish him. Why don't we banish people anymore? I guess I don't know where we'd banish him. Locking him up works for me, sure.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 March 2018 03:02 (six years ago) link
madoff stole from, and embarrassed, rich people. that's why he's in prison for 150 years.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 10 March 2018 04:48 (six years ago) link
Think this sentence is proof that we will basically accept people being evil predatory fucks, but have zero tolerance for people publicly gloating about it like cartoon villains.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 March 2018 09:32 (six years ago) link
i think this sums up the reasons for the lengthy sentence quite well
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/09/martin-shkreli-sentence-jail-arrogance-sentencing-fraud
― mark e, Saturday, 10 March 2018 09:50 (six years ago) link
Yes, but think it has wider implications that the article doesn't cover
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 March 2018 11:51 (six years ago) link
― omar little, Friday, March 9, 2018 1:21 PM (yesterday)
aw fuck yeah
― j., Saturday, 10 March 2018 15:16 (six years ago) link
yea even the Daraprim thing was hard to get too worked up about - pharma companies do evil shit like that all the time, Shkreli's job is to make money for his investors and we live in an idiot country where you can do stuff like this (besides, were any patients actually affected by the price hike? I honestly don't know). he's a fucking idiot for continuing to act like a total dipshit even after being nabbed. I know people who've been in legal trouble like this and the #1 priority is to convince the judge that you're not going to be a risk anymore - one guy who probably deserved a 6-year sentence got off w/ 7 months + work release because he was so damn sincere throughout the entire process (plus being a white guy helped). maybe he really wasn't gonna clean up his act but he damn well believed it at the time. Shkreli on the other hand has that Deathdr0ne thing where his entire persona revolves around his open, unrepentant repulsiveness, as though acting like a normal human being for an entire day would cause him to lose his sense of self. it's like Mr Dilbert where he finally found an audience that accepted his awful personality wholesale and thus felt no choice but to dial it up at every opportunity. he fuckin' earned it.
― frogbs, Saturday, 10 March 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
it was very easy to get worked up about the price gouging I completely disagree with you and am kinda shocked to read you say hey it's his job in
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
My reaction is somewhere in the middle. The gouging was egregious and gross but the level of gross and egregious behavior which is not only acceptable in but also actively expected of a pharma exec probably only differs by a matter of degrees. Like, he's an awful person who should be shot into space but he's also the product of the worst excesses of capitalism and probably not as much of an outlier as we'd like to believe.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:10 (six years ago) link
i feel the same way as frogbs. Shkreli is an scarecrow & focusing so much ire & glee in his punishment is very silly. this isn't a victory or an achievement of any kind, there is no advancement, corporate gouging & raiding will continue unabated.
― flappy bird, Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:18 (six years ago) link
Sometimes you gotta hate the player and the game
― frogbs, Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
Like, he's an awful person who should be shot into space
I also don't understand this hyperbolic & vindictive rhetoric, hyper violent & cartoonish. that's Shkreli's default - why copy?
― flappy bird, Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link
As I mentioned upthread, banishment is probably the best move with someone like this but, because that's an impractical suggestion, I'm now very sincerely proposing that we opt instead to utilize our controversial malcontent-launching technology to send him into orbit. I know human rights organizations like to boo-hoo about all of the asphyxiated douchenozzles currently circling the earth, but what's one more, I ask you.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
It's nothing really to celebrate. Here's a cartoon villain to be pointed out when anyone says the parasite class never pay for their crimes, meanwhile all the others of his sort get to look restrained in comparison, and likely get away with worse.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link
His real crime was coming from a background where he never had the opportunity to learn that the malevolent gloating should be done only behind closed doors. I could almost feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a fucking prick.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 10 March 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
― flappy bird, Saturday, 10 March 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
^
― badg, Saturday, 10 March 2018 23:15 (six years ago) link
What can I say, I just lust for his blood. And I have an equal amount of lust for sardonic hyperbole and those who are able to discern its presence in a text.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Saturday, 10 March 2018 23:25 (six years ago) link
Lol as if I didn’t pick up on your sarcasm. there’s a scrim of real anger there that ive seen elsewhere & itt that is baffling and very dumb
― flappy bird, Saturday, 10 March 2018 23:36 (six years ago) link
The actions of unfettered capitalists are often directly at odds with the conduct required to perpetuate society qua society. Thousands of years ago, our hunter-gatherer ancestors would have shunned or banished or beaten to death any upstart who threatened the integrity of their society by flagrantly disregarding their shared values while enjoying the benefits conferred by that society. Things have changed considerably, obvs, but I think many people still have an inherent and understandable repulsion towards those who seek only to exploit their own society without even the illusory courtesy of pretending to care about the world outside themselves. It's an enduring testament to our notions of civility that we generally restrict ourselves to cartoonish reveries and a faith in justice in lieu of forming a mob and driving out the cancerous elements ourselves.
― Ape Wipes (Old Lunch), Sunday, 11 March 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link