US Politics, March 2018: Why do people leave the White House for good?

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He's worth creating a new ocean for, true

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

"He might be a goddam liar and obstructionist, but he's *our* goddam liar and obstructionist!"

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

What possible penalties could Nunes receive?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

at what point do Nunes actions veer into obstruction or does it not really work like that in his particular position?

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

heh xpost

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

In other news, is there a good way to donate to the striking teachers in WV?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link

There's a strike fund - one sec.

Simon H., Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link

https://www.gofundme.com/wv-teachers-strike-fund

Simon H., Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:39 (six years ago) link

What possible penalties could Nunes receive?

Theoretcially? Expulsion from the House. Or censure. Or a sternly worded public reprimand from the Ethics Committee. Or a few sharply disapproving looks from his colleagues as they pass in the hallway. Or an all-day lollipop from Speaker Ryan.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:40 (six years ago) link

xpost Thanks. Also, can anyone vouch for this one?

https://www.gofundme.com/stoneman-douglas-yearbooks

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link

Best I can do is say: looks legit!

Simon H., Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

xpost to Aimless then I'm betting the later takes place

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

*latter

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:46 (six years ago) link

“The New York Times, a prominent purveyor of leaks, is highlighting anonymous sources leaking information that accuses Republicans of leaking information,” [Nunes spokesman] said. “I’m not sure if this coverage could possibly get more absurd.”

this is some astounding, next-level disingenuousness

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

Dow dropped 500 points after tariff announcement

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

unpatriotic Wall St fuckers

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link


AshLee Strong, spox for Speaker Paul Ryan, on NYTimes story on Intel Cmte/Nunes leak: “The speaker heard the senators on their concerns and encouraged them to take them up directly with their counterparts.”

...

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link

Dem Congress really needs to be making public statements about this to keep the story afloat. so it will at least be clear that Ryan is willfully letting it continue

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

AshLeeeeeeee

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link

Theoretcially? Expulsion from the House. Or censure. Or a sternly worded public reprimand from the Ethics Committee. Or a few sharply disapproving looks from his colleagues as they pass in the hallway. Or an all-day lollipop from Speaker Ryan.

― A is for (Aimless),

Set on fire. Defenestrated. Wrapped in burlap with a scorpion, asp, and chimp and tossed in the sea.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

People For the American Way, the organization that runs Right Wing Watch, filed suit against the Department of Justice and the Department of Housing and Urban Development today to demand the release of documents concerning reported changes in federal policy toward LGBTQ people.

Right Wing Watch had filed Freedom of Information Act requests with both agencies asking for documents on reported actions removing mentions of LGBTQ people from federal announcements and programs.

These reported actions were being taken quietly and without public announcement, raising the questions of who made the decisions, what the decisions covered, and whether agency staff had been directed to implement certain policies regarding programs affecting LGBTQ people without public knowledge.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/were-suing-two-federal-agencies-to-release-information-on-secret-lgbtq-policy/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link

Is there a finite tenure for either Ryan or McConnell or are they just going to continue undermining any steps towards sanity for the next few years anyway.

Stevolende, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:10 (six years ago) link

nope

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

Rayburn and Mansfield were speaker and majority leader, respectively, for 15+ years

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

Ryan's been muttering via usual anonymous friends about wanting out this year. I suspect he's considered either alternate fate -- losing the House or stuck carrying Trump's ever more piss-colored water -- to be not worth it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link

Dear God. There’s basically one person left in America who thinks our criminal justice system isn’t punitive enough. His name is Bill Otis. And Trump just nominated him to the US Sentencing Commission. https://t.co/e4jzNbbizX

— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) March 1, 2018

From 2015:

Faced with the choice between two potential errors—continuing to imprison someone who’s no longer a threat and releasing someone who ends up harming new victims—Otis says he’ll opt for the former. “Error is an inevitable fact of life,” he says in an interview. “And the only realistic question that adults can ask is not what system are we going to adopt that is going to avoid error, because there is no such system. The only question you get to ask is, which system is going to give us the fewest errors and who should have to bear the risk of error?”

Though Otis usually eschews the theoretical vocabulary of criminologists for more pungent terms (a favorite device of his is to refer sarcastically to offenders as “Mr. Nicey”), the philosophy he gravitates to has a name: incapacitation. It holds that a surefire solution to crime is to remove likely offenders from society. Otis’ version of the idea embodies what Berkeley law professor Jonathan Simon calls “a kind of axiomatic success that is immune to empirical evidence.” If any parolees commit crime, well, there you go: case closed. And if locking them up is the only true insurance against future crimes, then the best crime prevention measure is locking up more people for longer sentences. Rather than see dramatically declining crime rates as cause for corresponding drops in imprisonment, Otis argues that now is not the time to tinker with a successful formula.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2015/07/bill_otis_meet_the_last_man_standing_who_thinks_criminal_justice_reform.html

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

Is there a finite tenure for either Ryan or McConnell

They will continue to serve until one of the following happens:

  • they resign their position
  • they retire from the House or Senate
  • their caucus votes them out of their leadership positions
  • they lose an election and do not return to Congress
Additionally, if their chamber loses its republican majority, they will not continue as Speaker and Majority Leader, but may still lead their respective caucuses as Minority Leader.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link

I thought McConnell caused enough trouble in that minority position prior to the Republicans getting into power as it was.
if anybody is going to make an anchor out of Nunes couldn't he help weigh it down, please.

Stevolende, Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:25 (six years ago) link

your 'left' party at work

https://splinternews.com/democrats-are-trying-to-help-the-banks-racially-discrim-1823427155

fuck Tim Kaine

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

this momentum builds but Ryan had an easy excuse to do it already and pretended he didn't know he could remove Nunes then.

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

I weep for them. I cry the bitterest of tears.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

Referring to:

"A former White House official said he's spoken with more aides inside the White House who are trying to leave the administration, but not necessarily getting the kinds of high-paying offers in the corporate world as former aides usually do.”https://t.co/eNVDzBwMxX

— Tom Namako (@TomNamako) March 1, 2018

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

I like the wacky sitcom idea of having them all leave and just go open a diner or something.

Wyld Scalyns (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

a PR firm

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

they are so good at it

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:16 (six years ago) link

in case anyone wants to see an actual shot from hope hicks' modeling days, there's one here (it's a 2003 ya novel "created by" the woman who wrote the GOSSIP GIRL books)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_It_Girl_(novel)

maura, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link

Popular Gossip Girl character Jenny Humphrey is leaving Constance Billard to attend Waverly Academy, an elite boarding school in New York horse country where glamorous rich kids don't let the rules get in the way of an excellent time. Jenny is determined to leave her crazy Manhattan past behind and become a sophisticated goddess on campus. But first she will have to contend with her self-absorbed roommates, Callie Vernon and Brett Messerschmidt. Hot guys, new intrigue, and more delicious gossip all add up to more trouble than ever for Jenny. But if getting caught up with boys and facing the Disciplinary Committee is what it takes, Jenny is ready. She'll do all that and more to be The It Girl.

this is almost literally the Hope Hicks story

omar little, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:28 (six years ago) link

lol

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:33 (six years ago) link

McMaster to leave? Am I really first to post this or do I keep overlooking something?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-preparing-mcmaster-exit-early-next-month-n852371

Evan, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:44 (six years ago) link

i honestly have trouble keeping the respected-but-totally-reactionary generals straight

goole, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

Tariff news going over great!

Like most brewers, we are selling an increasing amount of our beers in aluminum cans, and this action will cause aluminum prices to rise. It is likely to lead to job losses across the beer industry. (2/3)

— MillerCoors (@MillerCoors) March 1, 2018

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

*Coors headquarters*

"But we're the reactionary fuckheads of the industry!"

"We will be sympathized with."

"..."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

pissing off the intel gangs AND Coors, Yam may find himself taking a Dallas motorcade ride before next Thanksgiving

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:51 (six years ago) link

coors is like owned by canadians now and they just hang and do curling and shit, afaict. *looks at brewery from desk* yup.

Hunt3r, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link

Axios reporting that tariff mess exacerbated by absence of Rob Porter and interruption of weekly trade meetings. It's gonna be great fun when a few months from now the WH staff has dwindled to Vince McMahon and a magic eight ball

https://www.axios.com/trump-declares-his-trade-war-targets-steel-aluminum-2f68d5fe-69ec-4872-b1d5-aaae28f7bf4b.html

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link

pissing off the intel gangs AND Coors

video game bros are also unhappy now

mookieproof, Thursday, 1 March 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link

McMaster to leave? Am I really first to post this or do I keep overlooking something?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-preparing-mcmaster-exit-early-next-month-n852371

― Evan,

i had no idea. the report says "exclusive" and it was published about 20 minute ago, it looks like

WASHINGTON — The White House is preparing to replace H.R. McMaster as national security adviser as early as next month in a move orchestrated by chief of staff John Kelly and Defense Secretary James Mattis, according to five people familiar with the discussions.

The move would be the latest in a long string of staff shakeups at the White House over the past year and comes after months of strained relations between the president and McMaster.

A leading candidate to become President Donald Trump’s third national security adviser is the auto industry executive Stephen Biegun, according to the officials.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Thursday, 1 March 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

third national security adviser is the auto industry executive Stephen Biegun

just trying to let this sink in.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Thursday, 1 March 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

xps re: tariffs the solar racking/mounting industry is also pissed fwiw

sleeve, Thursday, 1 March 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

The Sinclair news anchor hivemind is eye-rollingly untroubling in a world where like >50% of the American population possesses the skepticism and critical thinking skills to look askance at such a ridiculous maneuver. If that country ever existed, it's clear that it doesn't at this particular time.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

I’m sorry for being sick of ostensibly intelligent people having no memory and no ability to do math. That country exists right now. We live in it. Read the fucking polls and remember the popular vote.

For fuck’s sake.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 1 April 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link

Dude, people on every side of the election were taken by propaganda that flattered their worldview. Even ostensibly intelligent people have to make the individual effort to avoid being conned.

Arthur Pizzarelli AKA The Peetz (Old Lunch), Sunday, 1 April 2018 23:47 (six years ago) link

Sorry, not that many people voted for Jill Stein.

fajita seas, Monday, 2 April 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

wheres the new thread at

flappy bird, Monday, 2 April 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link

For April I like, "big drug and people flows."

Yelploaf, Monday, 2 April 2018 02:02 (six years ago) link

"Getting more dangerous"

El Tomboto, Monday, 2 April 2018 02:20 (six years ago) link

looks like moo vaughn's dreams are coming true

― Karl Malone, Sunday, April 1, 2018 10:15 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, the one good thing the Dump Admin is doing.

Of course, it wasn't their idea - http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/10/04/federal-officials-may-revamp-how-americans-identify-race-ethnicity-on-census-and-other-forms/

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 2 April 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

cash grab by ancestry.com imo

― El Tomboto, Sunday, April 1, 2018 10:31 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Maybe the 2000 census, etc. was too - https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/working-papers/2008/acs/2008_Brittingham_01.pdf. They were founded in '83.

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 2 April 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

a-a-a-and... that's a wrap!

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 2 April 2018 18:37 (six years ago) link

don't we usually lock these?

President Keyes, Monday, 2 April 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link

yes. it's time to move on.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 2 April 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link


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