pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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*cueing up 40oz btw*

marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 01:47 (six years ago) link

also those quotes from gwen stefani were hilarious

marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link

'repulsive and awful' feels like a huge overstatement

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 1 March 2018 05:05 (six years ago) link

Enjoying way more of their recent 4.0 to 7.0 albums than 8.1 and up.

billstevejim, Thursday, 1 March 2018 07:50 (six years ago) link

40 oz is better than the last St Vincent album.

billstevejim, Thursday, 1 March 2018 07:51 (six years ago) link

I wonder if a review of their self-titled would've gotten a better reception, since it's the one with much more critical acclaim

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 1 March 2018 08:02 (six years ago) link

i l x or sublime wars
i can't take it anymore

maura, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

'repulsive and awful' feels like a huge overstatement

― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, March 1, 2018 12:05 AM (sixteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol do we need to post lyrics

marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

. i thought weiss's review was p good sitting through a shitty band - SUBLIME POLL

― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:17 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

weiss's review is defintely better

marcos, Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

uh oh im getting outwoked because i think calling them a 'repulsive and awful group' is an overstatement

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Thursday, 1 March 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link

fuck that snobby new AWK review

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:41 (six years ago) link

Also, if any p4k copy editors read this thread

The self-help angle, honed by years of motivational speaking and advice-column side-hustle, is made explicit via three-minute spoken-word interludes—pep talks to help get you through your day, or maybe just the album itself.

That should be three minute-long interludes, not three-minute interludes.

Simon H., Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

like would it kill him to describe the actual music? most of this is hand wringing about the lack of subtext and nuance and whether he is authentic or not. like a re-heated review of "I Get Wet" from 17 years ago

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link

"some mindless 1988-ass arena pablum"

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

one mention of Bruce Springsteen (?) no Roxy Music, Cheap Trick, ELO, Queen, Bowie, etc. put this into context you "writer"

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:45 (six years ago) link

like would it kill him to describe the actual music?

yeah this struck me as well, you'd think it was identical to his previous records, which it really isn't.

Simon H., Thursday, 8 March 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

paging carles

nxd, Thursday, 8 March 2018 14:28 (six years ago) link

Happy International Women's Day!

Listen to a Best New Track from a chameleonic 19-year-old rapper from Chicago https://t.co/DLiqJfHEu2

— Pitchfork (@pitchfork) March 8, 2018

Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link

lmao

Simon H., Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that the conceit of the song isn't "girls are all equally wonderful!"

Simon H., Thursday, 8 March 2018 15:20 (six years ago) link

At least the Yo La Tengo interview was nice I guess

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:15 (six years ago) link

I tend to be kind of a pitchfork apologist but yeah that andrew wk review was not great and very weirdly cynical. dude needs to party more.

josh az (2011nostalgia), Thursday, 8 March 2018 21:52 (six years ago) link

“You’re Not Alone,” the big finish, manages to wring poignancy out of the most obvious and obviously stated sentiment.

so cynical he can't help but use obvious twice in one sentence

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link

You know a classic rock-indebted album is unique when ILM loves it and pitchfork thinks it's meh

josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 9 March 2018 02:31 (six years ago) link

Vince Staples’ GoFundMe for Early Retirement Was Briefly Removed

It’s back now!

perhaps most lol thing about these kind of banal non-stories is pitchfork believing they require a byline for some reason

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 9 March 2018 04:05 (six years ago) link

sorry, that was rude of me. Exceptional work, Evan Minsker, really terrific

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 9 March 2018 04:05 (six years ago) link

https://pitchfork.com/news/kodak-black-moved-to-solitary-confinement-report/

"The arrest stemmed from an incident in which Kodak’s young child was shown in the vicinity of marijuana and a handgun"

who is the audience? like fuck solitary forever, but pitchfork isn't exactly delving deep into the prison industrial complex, they're just VICE without the t&a

lion in winter, Sunday, 18 March 2018 04:45 (six years ago) link

pfork deciding to double down on reporting the criminal exploits of rappers they barely talk about otherwise is wack as fuck

kakistocrat, Sunday, 18 March 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

As a Spike Lee-esque saxophone wanders in and out of the mix, Strangers links the spirit of Eazy-E to Capital Steeze, his sadly departed Pro Era comrade.

Legendary saxophonist Spike Lee

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 19 March 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link

maybe he got wesley snipes character in mo' better blues confused with spike lee's character in mo' better blues

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 March 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

Lol who could ever figure out what he means by that

President Keyes, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 02:03 (six years ago) link

kakistocrat OTM

Yerac, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 11:35 (six years ago) link

xp point is there are sixty million jazz artists he could have referenced instead of a non jazz music-playing director known for occasionally using jazz in his soundtracks, and suggests that dude has a very myopic view of / knows fuck all about jazz. Like saying "guitar solos straight out of Almost Famous"

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

or "keyboards out of a John Hughes film"

MarkoP, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:39 (six years ago) link

Spike Lee: Occasional Jazz User

President Keyes, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 14:44 (six years ago) link

Light Jazz User Syndrome

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 15:06 (six years ago) link

Explore Elliott Smith’s Iconic Either/Or in 5 Minutes
Explore Bob Dylan's Blood on the Tracks in 4 Minutes
noticing a trend here.

― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, March 2, 2017 4:25 PM

I always cringe when I see these (and they do them all the time now). Just listen to the damn album! If you have 5 minutes, find 32 more!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

well, it's not like it's a sped up version of the album — the idea with the videos is to give some background info / context / insight. i do agree that promoting these videos in this way is kind of weird.

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link

I see (I've never watched one).

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link

Aside from the studied banality, the autoplay on these makes me want to shit out my spleen with RAGE. It's stopped me going to the site, pretty much.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

well, it's not like it's a sped up version of the album — the idea with the videos is to give some background info / context / insight. i do agree that promoting these videos in this way is kind of weird.

― tylerw, Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:26 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm all for this, I devour all making of materials, but these are so cursory, none of them are anything more than the first paragraph of a Wikipedia article. they're completely useless even for casual fans. idk, it's the pivot to video I guess

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

so you've watched them all?

tylerw, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link

all the albums i care about yeah. checked out some others i wasn't that familiar with, and double checked wikipedia - i mean, you couldn't get more cursory. gimme twenty minutes at least!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link

it would be one thing if these were presented as introductions but the notion that you can "explore" a record in 5 mins is stupid

motorpsycho nightmare winningham (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link

right

flappy bird, Tuesday, 20 March 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

is there an industry-specific reason they haven't pivoted away from video yet

j., Wednesday, 21 March 2018 01:52 (six years ago) link

this is good. and has lots of good links at the end of it.

https://pitchfork.com/features/article/how-a-group-of-journalists-turned-hip-hop-into-a-literary-movement/

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 16:02 (six years ago) link

i apologize for posting a link to something that i think is good though...

scott seward, Wednesday, 21 March 2018 16:03 (six years ago) link


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