what do gun people think about grenades and bazookas? They cool with them?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link
*extremely gun voice* umm bazookas are antiquated surely you mean rpgs, plz at least learn what youre talking about before you go proposing laws
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link
Every time in the last week I've heard a conversation about gun control, I've tried to replace the word 'gun' with 'viper.' It makes a fair amount of sense in a reducto absurdum kind of way, sort of preserves the sides in the argument, and it's way less emotionally draining. Just sayin.' Vipers don't kill people, people kill people. People on farms often need vipers to control vermin on their property. It's okay if YOU want to keep a viper in your bedroom drawer to scare of robbers, but what if your children find it? There's very little logic for rapid-reloading vipers. The mentally ill should not be given vipers.
― rb (soda), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link
i'm sick of all these politicians in the pocket of Big Viper!
― omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
Vipers don't kill people, people with vipers kill people. Also, yeah, vipers kill people.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a viper is a good guy with a viper.
― it's my leopard. (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
Happiness is a Warm Viper
― it's my leopard. (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
They will have to pry this viper from my cold dead hands. Possibly because I was killed by a viper, but that is neither here nor there.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link
That proposal strikes me as something that's not going to be any easier or more likely than actual firearm restrictions, which seems kind of pointless.
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link
kind of places an undue burden on the populace if we all have to buy and maintain guns and carry them around all the time if that's the safest solution, as some idiots keep claiming
― mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link
This seems like big news
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/business/dicks-major-gun-retailer-will-stop-selling-assault-style-rifles.html
― Moodles, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
EXCUSE me NY Times please correct your headline to something more technically accurate
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
Congratulations to Dicks on consigning all other gun dealers to the lowercase version of their name.
― Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link
assault-style lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link
"We will no longer sell assault-style rifles, also referred to as modern sporting rifles."
― jmm, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link
― rb (soda)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKFH_zh4gY0
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link
It makes me think of Dan Aykroyd as toy magnate Irwin Mainway, hawking Bag O'Nails, Bag O'Glass, Bag O'Vipers.... "We're just packaging what the kids want!"
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
Walmart raising gun purchase age to 21 and taking guns that look like assault style weapons off their website, whatever that means.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
conspiracy theory: dicks and walmart are raising the required age for a gun purchase in order to prompt an age discrimination lawsuit that they'll lose and will further entrench “gun rights”
― gbx, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
There’s no statutory recognition of age discrimination against the young, from what I understand.
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
and you can't rent a car until you're 25 but I'm just saying what if man what if
― gbx, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link
a baby shd buy a gun
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link
guys i just want to say
i think we're gonna be alright
because wal-mart and dick's are on the case
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link
like, i know it's stressful
but i think the nation can breathe just a little easier now that wal-mart and dick's are showing us the way forward, to a more humane society
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link
possibly relevant to our interests
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/28/intercepted-podcast-white-supremacy-and-the-church-of-the-second-amendment/
― Simon H., Thursday, 1 March 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link
L.L. Bean?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ll-bean-gun-purchases-21_us_5a9912a2e4b0479c02513486
― how's life, Friday, 2 March 2018 12:37 (six years ago) link
I had no idea LL Bean sold guns. Did they come in flannel?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
read the article, man
anyway apparently Delta is calling Georgia's bluff. Good for them.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link
Huh: re LL Bean.Just saw that REI no longer stocking stuff made by the hunting/gun company that makes CamelBak and ski goggles and stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link
As an REI member since 1970, with a number just a tad over 170,000, I approve.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 3 March 2018 04:33 (six years ago) link
great idears
Tennessee state Rep. Andy Holt, a Republican, introduced a bill to let people carry guns in airports, with a special provision that bars local governments from passing their own gun regulations. It is next scheduled for consideration on Tuesday, March 6.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/despite-parkland-states-plow-ahead-with-new-pro-gun-bills
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 March 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/5/5c/Just_Shoot_Me.jpg
― am0n, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
love that show
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link
dangerous thing to admit in these anti-gun times
― am0n, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
I encountered my first "woke" pro gun argument when I made a comment in support of the school walkout in an instagram post. I quickly got a couple of guys saying "leftists are pro gun" and when I said that didn't include me I got accused of being a pro-cop, pro-state fascist. "Why are you trying to keep guns out of the hands of marginalized communities who need them to protect themselves?" "I guess your white privilege allows you to feel like it's ok to let oppressed people get wiped out" and so on, followed by a very condescending lesson on the Black Panthers and AIM. "Just because you may be personally against guns, please don't stop others from seeking out solutions in the desparate fight against white supremacy."
What I ultimately came to realize after a bit of back and forth is that the mentality was exactly the same as the "we need guns to fight the government" crowd, just from a different political bent. It did give me pause, if only to consider something I honestly had not thought of previously. Despite it all, I remain highly skeptical, to say the least, of the wisdom of private citizens maintaining their own arsenals, regardless of their politics.
Honestly I don't know what to make of it.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 15 March 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
I'm for progressives adopting pro-gun political stances in order to irredeemably taint it for conservatives.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 15 March 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link
xp what do these ppl make of the fact that p much every leftist outside of north america is against them?
― ogmor, Thursday, 15 March 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/morgan-roof-dylann-roof.html
A sister of Dylann Roof, the man who massacred nine black churchgoers in South Carolina in 2015, was arrested on Wednesday for bringing a knife, pepper spray and marijuana to her high school, the authorities said.Morgan Roof, 18, was arrested on drugs and weapons charges at her high school, A.C. Flora, in Columbia, S.C., and taken to a detention center, Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said in a statement.Sheriff Lott said that a school resource officer was informed by an administrator that Ms. Roof had the weapons and drugs. “Roof had also made a social media post on Snapchat which caused alarm to the student body,” Sheriff Lott said. No students were harmed, he said.Ms. Roof’s Snapchat post criticized students who planned to walk out of class to protest gun violence. “I hope it’s a trap and y’all get shot,” it said. “We know it’s fixing to be nothing but black people walkin out anyway.”
Morgan Roof, 18, was arrested on drugs and weapons charges at her high school, A.C. Flora, in Columbia, S.C., and taken to a detention center, Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said in a statement.
Sheriff Lott said that a school resource officer was informed by an administrator that Ms. Roof had the weapons and drugs. “Roof had also made a social media post on Snapchat which caused alarm to the student body,” Sheriff Lott said. No students were harmed, he said.
Ms. Roof’s Snapchat post criticized students who planned to walk out of class to protest gun violence. “I hope it’s a trap and y’all get shot,” it said. “We know it’s fixing to be nothing but black people walkin out anyway.”
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 March 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link
Whoa, can this really be true? Grocery stores?!
In the U.S., gun shops outnumber Starbucks, McDonald's, and all grocery stores combined.
From this: https://www.gq.com/story/dragonman-mel-bernstein-sells-people-hunting-guns
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 15 March 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link
xpost to ogmor they were going on about leftists in Turkey as a model. I didn't catch the name of the group. IDK honestly, at the end of it all they just sounded like more militia psychos, albeit intersectional ones. That's progress...?
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
xpost
that's crazy, but it could be true. a lot of wal-marts are gun shops, for example
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link
yeah I think that's one of the drivers. LOTS of sporting goods stores sell guns
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:11 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago
you made all that needs to be made of it -- it's a patently ridiculous position. your comparison to fantasy militia types is apt
― k3vin k., Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:12 (six years ago) link
38,441 supermarkets (2016)14,146 McDonald's (2016)13,930 Starbucks (2017)
― jmm, Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
have this queued up: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2018/04/05/guns-bang-for-the-buck/
― k3vin k., Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
Dragonman's oft-stated argument boils down to this: He doesn't control what people do with the weapons once they leave Dragonland any more than the soda company controls how much soda you drink, or the cigarette company controls the cigarettes you smoke.
"Well, if you get cancer, it's not their fault," he says.
Yes, all that matters is whether it's his fault or not. Never mind the consequences to other people.
― jmm, Thursday, 15 March 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
https://www.trashtalktv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/1-Bag-o-glass.jpg
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 15 March 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
honestly I bring up this argument a lot and people seem to blow right past it. the amusing part is that these are the same people who keep saying "actually, automatic and semi-automatic weapons are banned" (even though I never say an AR-15 is an automatic weapon), because then I get to ask "Why?? Why are they banned? Because they're too deadly? Then why didn't the Vegas shooter get one? Or the guy in Orlando? Or Parkland?"
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 March 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
because, you know, they're criminals, and criminals will always break the law no matter what
― frogbs, Thursday, 15 March 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link
the woke gun nut guy referred me to the Pink Pistols, a gun group who "Strive to be anti racist, feminist, intersectional & free of that masculine BS in contemporary US gun culture".
So I had a look and I gotta tell ya I feel like I've heard this one before.
“No matter what kinds of weapons Mr. Paddock had. No matter how many he had. No matter the sizes of the magazines, the caliber of the bullets, the color of the guns, or the style or design, the guns had no choice, for guns are not living creatures. A gun cannot choose to refuse to fire if the action is illegal. They’re just machines. I hate having to defend inanimate objects yet again, but I know that once again they will be low-hanging fruit for those who project their anger and fear onto them.”
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 15 March 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link