The Great ILX Gun Control Debate

it'll take time but maybe not as much time as one thinks.

if your a massive student of history like me youll find its often darkest before the dawn

only allow types of guns that were actually in production when the constitution was written

otm

all guns shd be at the least single shot wld make hunting more sporting too

and the single "shot" is a flag with BOOM! written on it

honestly that can be pretty startling

first you have to feed the deer on your property unhealthy snack for years then you can startle them into having a heart attack

what do gun people think about grenades and bazookas? They cool with them?

*extremely gun voice* umm bazookas are antiquated surely you mean rpgs, plz at least learn what youre talking about before you go proposing laws

Every time in the last week I've heard a conversation about gun control, I've tried to replace the word 'gun' with 'viper.' It makes a fair amount of sense in a reducto absurdum kind of way, sort of preserves the sides in the argument, and it's way less emotionally draining. Just sayin.' Vipers don't kill people, people kill people. People on farms often need vipers to control vermin on their property. It's okay if YOU want to keep a viper in your bedroom drawer to scare of robbers, but what if your children find it? There's very little logic for rapid-reloading vipers. The mentally ill should not be given vipers.

i'm sick of all these politicians in the pocket of Big Viper!

Vipers don't kill people, people with vipers kill people. Also, yeah, vipers kill people.

The only thing that stops a bad guy with a viper is a good guy with a viper.

Happiness is a Warm Viper

They will have to pry this viper from my cold dead hands. Possibly because I was killed by a viper, but that is neither here nor there.

That proposal strikes me as something that's not going to be any easier or more likely than actual firearm restrictions, which seems kind of pointless.

kind of places an undue burden on the populace if we all have to buy and maintain guns and carry them around all the time if that's the safest solution, as some idiots keep claiming

This seems like big news

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/business/dicks-major-gun-retailer-will-stop-selling-assault-style-rifles.html

EXCUSE me NY Times please correct your headline to something more technically accurate

Congratulations to Dicks on consigning all other gun dealers to the lowercase version of their name.

assault-style lol

"We will no longer sell assault-style rifles, also referred to as modern sporting rifles."

Every time in the last week I've heard a conversation about gun control, I've tried to replace the word 'gun' with 'viper.' It makes a fair amount of sense in a reducto absurdum kind of way, sort of preserves the sides in the argument, and it's way less emotionally draining. Just sayin.' Vipers don't kill people, people kill people. People on farms often need vipers to control vermin on their property. It's okay if YOU want to keep a viper in your bedroom drawer to scare of robbers, but what if your children find it? There's very little logic for rapid-reloading vipers. The mentally ill should not be given vipers.

― rb (soda)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKFH_zh4gY0

It makes me think of Dan Aykroyd as toy magnate Irwin Mainway, hawking Bag O'Nails, Bag O'Glass, Bag O'Vipers.... "We're just packaging what the kids want!"

Walmart raising gun purchase age to 21 and taking guns that look like assault style weapons off their website, whatever that means.

conspiracy theory: dicks and walmart are raising the required age for a gun purchase in order to prompt an age discrimination lawsuit that they'll lose and will further entrench “gun rights”

There’s no statutory recognition of age discrimination against the young, from what I understand.

and you can't rent a car until you're 25 but I'm just saying what if man what if

a baby shd buy a gun

guys i just want to say

i think we're gonna be alright

because wal-mart and dick's are on the case

like, i know it's stressful

but i think the nation can breathe just a little easier now that wal-mart and dick's are showing us the way forward, to a more humane society

possibly relevant to our interests

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/28/intercepted-podcast-white-supremacy-and-the-church-of-the-second-amendment/

L.L. Bean?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ll-bean-gun-purchases-21_us_5a9912a2e4b0479c02513486

I had no idea LL Bean sold guns. Did they come in flannel?

read the article, man

anyway apparently Delta is calling Georgia's bluff. Good for them.

Huh: re LL Bean.

Just saw that REI no longer stocking stuff made by the hunting/gun company that makes CamelBak and ski goggles and stuff.

As an REI member since 1970, with a number just a tad over 170,000, I approve.

great idears

Tennessee state Rep. Andy Holt, a Republican, introduced a bill to let people carry guns in airports, with a special provision that bars local governments from passing their own gun regulations. It is next scheduled for consideration on Tuesday, March 6.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/despite-parkland-states-plow-ahead-with-new-pro-gun-bills

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/5/5c/Just_Shoot_Me.jpg

love that show

dangerous thing to admit in these anti-gun times

I encountered my first "woke" pro gun argument when I made a comment in support of the school walkout in an instagram post. I quickly got a couple of guys saying "leftists are pro gun" and when I said that didn't include me I got accused of being a pro-cop, pro-state fascist. "Why are you trying to keep guns out of the hands of marginalized communities who need them to protect themselves?" "I guess your white privilege allows you to feel like it's ok to let oppressed people get wiped out" and so on, followed by a very condescending lesson on the Black Panthers and AIM. "Just because you may be personally against guns, please don't stop others from seeking out solutions in the desparate fight against white supremacy."

What I ultimately came to realize after a bit of back and forth is that the mentality was exactly the same as the "we need guns to fight the government" crowd, just from a different political bent. It did give me pause, if only to consider something I honestly had not thought of previously. Despite it all, I remain highly skeptical, to say the least, of the wisdom of private citizens maintaining their own arsenals, regardless of their politics.

Honestly I don't know what to make of it.

I'm for progressives adopting pro-gun political stances in order to irredeemably taint it for conservatives.

xp what do these ppl make of the fact that p much every leftist outside of north america is against them?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/us/morgan-roof-dylann-roof.html

A sister of Dylann Roof, the man who massacred nine black churchgoers in South Carolina in 2015, was arrested on Wednesday for bringing a knife, pepper spray and marijuana to her high school, the authorities said.

Morgan Roof, 18, was arrested on drugs and weapons charges at her high school, A.C. Flora, in Columbia, S.C., and taken to a detention center, Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said in a statement.

Sheriff Lott said that a school resource officer was informed by an administrator that Ms. Roof had the weapons and drugs. “Roof had also made a social media post on Snapchat which caused alarm to the student body,” Sheriff Lott said. No students were harmed, he said.

Ms. Roof’s Snapchat post criticized students who planned to walk out of class to protest gun violence. “I hope it’s a trap and y’all get shot,” it said. “We know it’s fixing to be nothing but black people walkin out anyway.”

Whoa, can this really be true? Grocery stores?!

In the U.S., gun shops outnumber Starbucks, McDonald's, and all grocery stores combined.

From this: https://www.gq.com/story/dragonman-mel-bernstein-sells-people-hunting-guns

xpost to ogmor they were going on about leftists in Turkey as a model. I didn't catch the name of the group. IDK honestly, at the end of it all they just sounded like more militia psychos, albeit intersectional ones. That's progress...?

xpost

that's crazy, but it could be true. a lot of wal-marts are gun shops, for example

yeah I think that's one of the drivers. LOTS of sporting goods stores sell guns