The Breeders - All Nerve (2018)

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kim really is great — obviously she's well-loved, but I still feel like she's underrated. just a total original.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link

i still think she's the best rock star of the '90s, she best epitomized that decade for me.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:40 (one year ago) link

it feels like she's getting more appreciation lately? feeling more of a buzz about this new album than mountain battles e.g.

i am pumped for it and i am happy for any new kim deal music but the amps album is better than any of the breeders albums, right? they're all great but pacer is perfect.

na (NA), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

challenging kim deal opinions

na (NA), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:51 (one year ago) link

i listened to mountain battles today and it sounds better to me now

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:53 (one year ago) link

i agree re pacer. a perfect album.

mizzell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 21:58 (one year ago) link

Last Splash > Pacer > Title TK > Pod > Mountain Battles

J. Sam, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:30 (one year ago) link

this new album is grrrrrreat

alpine static, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

xp POD 4TH?!!!?!???

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:43 (one year ago) link

There are challops, AND THEN THERE ARE CHALLOPS!

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:44 (one year ago) link

Pod's my least favorite.

LS > Title TK > Mountain Battles > Pod

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:46 (one year ago) link

I've never been more mad at u

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:52 (one year ago) link

would probably say Pod is my fave. hard to pick, though ...

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:55 (one year ago) link

and it's still good! It's just the one I listen to least.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:57 (one year ago) link

Yeah Pod is definitely their best

nate woolls, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:08 (one year ago) link

Mentioned on another thread, but I saw them on their recent small club tour and was completely blown away by "Walking With A Killer" (my first time hearing it) and I'm a jaded fuck who rarely gets into new material. They put on a fantastic live show fwiw.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:14 (one year ago) link

You can buy all of the KD solo series 7" songs via Amazon music and iTunes I think. Makes a GREAT mini album. "Likkle More" destroys me.

I think Deal just might be my favourite songwriter and singer of all time. Hard to think of anyone who's given me more joy.

My challop: Title TK > Pod > Pacer > Mountain Battles > Last Splash

(I hate the overproduction of LS and think it buffed out the ragged charm of the real Deal aesthetic)

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:44 (one year ago) link

Honest, earnest question from me: what exactly do people like about Title TK? I can't figure it out for the life of me. Such a tossed off, songless record.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:57 (one year ago) link

That's me re Pod!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:59 (one year ago) link

:O

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:01 (one year ago) link

Look, arguing about the merits of this or that album is futile. The ethos produces a remarkable consistency.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:02 (one year ago) link

JF - I don't know what to say to you except that the writing on that record is better than any other of the albums. The songs are loose and sketchy, they ride the tension between pop sweetness and chaos so perfectly that I never tire of them. It's the thing Deal does better than anyone else I've heard (maybe Bob Pollard gets there but his hit:miss ratio is lower, plus he doesn't have THAT VOICE). "London Song" I have probably listened to a hundred times, it never fails to raise the hair on the back of my neck and feels like pure energy. If you don't feel it you don't, I guess, but it took me maybe a year to fully dial into its wavelength and it's just kept giving since then.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:11 (one year ago) link

Pod, Pacer >>>>>>>>

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:11 (one year ago) link

Hm, 16 years ago? Make that 300 times at least, I guess!

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:15 (one year ago) link

Pod and the Kim Deal 7"s MattK referred to (as an album) are truly unfuckwithable.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:18 (one year ago) link

It helps that Title TK was stuck in my car CD player for a year before fixing it. I can hum every note.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:20 (one year ago) link

xps That's what I get from songs like "Oh!" and "Iris" and basically the entirety of Pod and don't get at all from anything on Title TK, but it's not you who needs to be sold on the virtues of Pod (it's your #2).

I mean, agree to disagree and whatnot, and I feign a lot of confusion and outrage on this board just for the sake of comedy, but this is a thing I am legit confused by out in the real world.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:22 (one year ago) link

I love Title TK, the production is perfect, layered and weird but distinctly garage-y in the Deal way.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:33 (one year ago) link

Nothing with "Little Fury" can be called songless

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:34 (one year ago) link

Or Off You or Too Alive or

the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 11:41 (one year ago) link

"Dawn: Making an Effort." WOW.

J. Sam, Friday, 2 March 2018 05:44 (one year ago) link

I love this whole album.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 March 2018 06:01 (one year ago) link

Thank you for reminding me, to my surprise my local CD store had the physical disc on release date! Got there with 10 minutes to spare, about to hit the car which is one of my few remaining disc players.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 2 March 2018 06:33 (one year ago) link

The Josephine Wiggs co-writes are bringing the muscle, playing this loud on a decent system now.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 2 March 2018 07:45 (one year ago) link

which ones did she co-write (besides, i assume, MetaGoth)?

alpine static, Friday, 2 March 2018 07:59 (one year ago) link

and Skinhead #2

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 2 March 2018 08:15 (one year ago) link

I had no idea she was back. delighted about that.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 2 March 2018 08:38 (one year ago) link

this is the Last Splash lineup jed!

just noticed tears shaped like florida. (sic), Friday, 2 March 2018 10:11 (one year ago) link

yes!

Bass so heavy.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:24 (one year ago) link

this is a great record.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 2 March 2018 18:24 (one year ago) link

who produced this? It's HEAVY.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 3 March 2018 00:21 (one year ago) link

Self produced but I think albini is semi involved?

tylerw, Saturday, 3 March 2018 00:26 (one year ago) link

only 3 songs I think? I haven't listened to it yet. but I was thinking about Pod the other day and how heavy the drums are on it. I suppose that's typical Albini production and just how In Utero is recorded etc but he's so good at that

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 3 March 2018 00:29 (one year ago) link

"I need spit/to crush these beetles on my lips" is divine.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 3 March 2018 00:50 (one year ago) link

It's crazy how "Archangel's Thunderbird" just sounds like another Breeders song.

J. Sam, Saturday, 3 March 2018 01:24 (one year ago) link

it sounds so WILD and cray though. I'm not sure it does sound like another breeders song. It doesn't to me. I mean obviously, the end product does!

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 3 March 2018 01:32 (one year ago) link

I'm drunk!

Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 3 March 2018 01:33 (one year ago) link

oh man I gotta hear this

sleeve, Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:51 (one year ago) link

Self produced but I think albini is semi involved?

― tylerw, F

one song -- the cover

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 March 2018 04:09 (one year ago) link

Great album, great listen, a great birthday gift.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 3 March 2018 04:13 (one year ago) link

why bemuse?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:23 (eleven months ago) link

Well, there's been a long gap since I listened to the Breeders and its not particularly close to what I'd normally listen to these days. I think I've said up thread that if I'd seen a Breeders album in anyone's end of year list, I'd have presumed they were just being lazy. But, but, but ... fairly by chance, I heard a fucking brilliant 4ad mix on NTS (I think I've only ever played the Autechre and 4ad mixes) and it resonated with me. I ended up making myself multiple 4ad compilations (for the car, for friends). This included a handful of Breeders tracks and found myself intrigued by what they might be doing in 2018.

djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:35 (eleven months ago) link

it's a completely awesome album and i recommend listening to it

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:36 (eleven months ago) link

otm

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 21:38 (eleven months ago) link

Can you capture what you like about it?

djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:45 (eleven months ago) link

idk all of their records are fucking good for different reasons, this one’s like what if the last splash lineup made something as deep and mysterious as pod, the songs are pretty much all simultaneously full of hooks and open-ended and strange

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:50 (eleven months ago) link

idk all their albums are open-ended and strange and full of hooks. It's impossible for me to explain what separates this from that one.

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:55 (eleven months ago) link

I realise I have only said the circumstances in which I heard it and the vague idea that "listening to the Breeders in 2018 seems odd". "Open ended and strange" is part of it: certainly I couldn't really say what many of the less obvious songs are about, even when they resonate with me somehow. Like, I love "All Nerve" and the first half always reminds me of someone specific and the second half doesn't.

djh, Wednesday, 19 December 2018 22:59 (eleven months ago) link

I love this album and it's one of my favorites of the year, easily. I'm bummed that it didn't appear on ANY end of year lists, as far I can tell.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:26 (eleven months ago) link

It's turned up on a few lists for sure. The 2018 lists thread may have some of them...

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:28 (eleven months ago) link

a quick search turned up: Mojo and Uncut

Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 19 December 2018 23:32 (eleven months ago) link

Heard a little of this for the first time this morning, and it does sound good.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 December 2018 15:37 (eleven months ago) link

"listening to the Breeders in 2018 seems odd"

Part of their charm beyond the music is that for a long-running rock band, their history doesn't follow the typical rock band arc in any way. Other than heroin problems. It's as disjointed and compellingly odd as Deal's writing.

eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:10 (eleven months ago) link

I don't think there's any "comeback" record that made me as happy as this one did

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:17 (eleven months ago) link

They're all comeback records, kinda!

eva logorrhea (bendy), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:23 (eleven months ago) link

It is my understanding that these songs - at least I think most are - are about Kims experiences dealing with her mothers Dementia. I think she has been looking after her for a while.

Hinklepicker, Thursday, 20 December 2018 19:04 (eleven months ago) link

I've heard that said before. I think you could play the album loads and not reach that conclusion (though it does seem likely given what we know).

djh, Saturday, 22 December 2018 14:16 (eleven months ago) link

two months pass...

https://pitchfork.com/news/the-breeders-josephine-wiggs-announces-new-album-shares-song-listen/

I realised I've never heard the Josephine Wiggs Experience album. New song is very pretty, reminds me a lot of Hans-Joachim Roedelius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_NQSuxIQhk

willem, Thursday, 21 March 2019 13:26 (eight months ago) link

that is really an alternate dreamy universe compared to the breeders directly into the face approach. a little on the cutesy/mellifluous side of things.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 21 March 2019 17:55 (eight months ago) link

cutesy/mellifuous covers most of her 90s stuff - with Ladies Who Lunch and Dusty Trails at either end. cool to see that Jon Mattock is at least involved with this - Honey Tongues and The Josephine Wiggs Experience were both duos of the two of them.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Thursday, 21 March 2019 18:50 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

has there ever been a more iconic but awkward fit than the breeders and 4ad/vaughan oliver aesthetics?

linee, Monday, 8 April 2019 09:36 (eight months ago) link

The worst was the Last Splash anniversary box set with awful new artwork.

Title TK's cover is fairly blah.

I appreciate that the artwork isn't too easy, but once the novelty faded i haven't been fond of how text/font heavy 4ad's artwork tends to be.

Cow_Art, Monday, 8 April 2019 10:48 (eight months ago) link

the whole 4ad thing is all very soft-focus, ethereal, sophisticated and british. lots of text and different typefaces like you say whereas i see the band and their music as being very dry, american, suburban and working class or something? even something vaguely contemporaneous like lush worked better with it as they were at least british and their aesthetic sound-lineage from things like the cocteau twins; the obvious analogue to the soft-focus aspect of the 4ad cover style.

i dunno, all those recent self-released kim deal singles have these really "designed", layered image-heavy assemblages on the covers too, so she clearly just likes that stuff and wasn't just stuck with the 4ad house style. just seems

in some ways it kind of works to differentiate them from their time. if all of their covers were standard '90s sebadoh/pavement/gbv-ish collages or that kind of naive anti-photo thing with some scrawled text on it they would blend in more maybe? the presentation being slightly at odds with the content has an interesting way of gilding it or framing it differently.

linee, Monday, 8 April 2019 21:31 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

Good summer for this record

surm, Saturday, 22 June 2019 15:26 (five months ago) link

I'm in the mood for them to chuck out another album fairly speedily. Fucking love "All Nerve".

djh, Sunday, 23 June 2019 19:10 (five months ago) link

I played it yesterday!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:02 (five months ago) link

xxp This band has a remarkably ugly set of album covers, IMO

Consider the coconut (morrisp), Sunday, 23 June 2019 20:27 (five months ago) link

The covers don’t suit the band’s sound for sure.

bendy, Monday, 24 June 2019 02:57 (five months ago) link

disagree x2

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 24 June 2019 03:01 (five months ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brutalist_architecture

except in font/layout/design, definitely fits with the savagely precise music IMO

Ambient Police (sleeve), Monday, 24 June 2019 03:11 (five months ago) link

four months pass...

Walking With A Killer video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xBwXJkxlPI

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:36 (one month ago) link

love it

Οὖτις, Thursday, 31 October 2019 15:56 (one month ago) link

Nice video but still getting used to the album version of this as opposed to the first 7" version which was so great.

Hinklepicker, Thursday, 31 October 2019 18:28 (one month ago) link

They don't seem radically different?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:32 (one month ago) link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NtcXD3cefuA I mean obviously it's the same song but the original version seems more sure of itself to my ears but maybe that's just the one 'heard it first must be best' thing going on

Hinklepicker, Thursday, 31 October 2019 19:59 (one month ago) link


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