i hear all that but at the same time politicians have been telling us we need to wait for "culture to change" before they do anything as an excuse for inaction on everything from birth control to the death penalty to same-sex marriage. the cigarette ban's one example where it really worked the other way; the other example that springs to mind is new york's "curb your dog" fines introduced in the early 90s (or was it late 80s?) where suddenly "$100 fine" signs sprung up on every street corner and practically overnight people who didn't clean up after their dogs were booed off the sidewalks. compare to a place like paris, or london, without penalties like that. half the goddamn population "forgot their plastic bag". culture can change and it can change quickly. i don't buy "the us has a distinct weird history with guns blah blah blah". everywhere has a distinct history of something or other but if the political will is there to break its back that back gonna done get broke. whole languages have been wiped out in a decade. guns aren't impossible to deal with. they totally should be like big tobacco. put a 500% gun tax on all of them.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:08 (six years ago) link
generally the gun lobby is laughing its ass off that were arguing over fringe shit like bumpstocks thatll be outlawed then re legalized over and over in an absurd meaningless tug o war
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link
wasn't the cdc ban literally "we can't let the cdc study gun violence because if they do they'll find out they're really bad and dangerous"
― gbx, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link
i like this idea a lot:
My non-gun savy friends. You want "A ban on all center-fire, semi-automatic rifles with a magazine capacity of over 6. No pistol with a magazine over 10. Exchange program for high cap mags for a year." This will bypass the "but what is an assault weapon, really?" argument.— Christopher Moore (@TheAuthorGuy) February 26, 2018
― goole, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:00 (six years ago) link
dont tell me what i want bitgh
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
no gun with a magazine over 1
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link
speaking as one of the elite people who has thrown a grenade my word is law
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link
im basically a troop
extreme and far reaching but still a compromise: gunmakers get a bonanza on making cut-down mags
we have an enormous amount of guns in circ already (and held by relatively few people) so idk if taxing gun sales a bunch will do much, but, sure, let's do it.
100% tax on ammo probably more effective. can already see an equality challenge by the right: pricing the poor out of a constitutional right. i mean, we're already in the realm of deep fantasy with these ideas to begin with
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― goole, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:04 (six years ago) link
you say you're a grenade expert, i say grin-aid expert, you cheer me up fella
― omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
not even banning guns altogether is a deep fantasy
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
it'll take time but maybe not as much time as one thinks.
― omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link
if your a massive student of history like me youll find its often darkest before the dawn
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
only allow types of guns that were actually in production when the constitution was written
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
otm
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
all guns shd be at the least single shot wld make hunting more sporting too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
and the single "shot" is a flag with BOOM! written on it
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link
honestly that can be pretty startling
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link
first you have to feed the deer on your property unhealthy snack for years then you can startle them into having a heart attack
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
what do gun people think about grenades and bazookas? They cool with them?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link
*extremely gun voice* umm bazookas are antiquated surely you mean rpgs, plz at least learn what youre talking about before you go proposing laws
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link
Every time in the last week I've heard a conversation about gun control, I've tried to replace the word 'gun' with 'viper.' It makes a fair amount of sense in a reducto absurdum kind of way, sort of preserves the sides in the argument, and it's way less emotionally draining. Just sayin.' Vipers don't kill people, people kill people. People on farms often need vipers to control vermin on their property. It's okay if YOU want to keep a viper in your bedroom drawer to scare of robbers, but what if your children find it? There's very little logic for rapid-reloading vipers. The mentally ill should not be given vipers.
― rb (soda), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:27 (six years ago) link
i'm sick of all these politicians in the pocket of Big Viper!
― omar little, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
Vipers don't kill people, people with vipers kill people. Also, yeah, vipers kill people.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a viper is a good guy with a viper.
― it's my leopard. (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
Happiness is a Warm Viper
― it's my leopard. (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
They will have to pry this viper from my cold dead hands. Possibly because I was killed by a viper, but that is neither here nor there.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link
That proposal strikes me as something that's not going to be any easier or more likely than actual firearm restrictions, which seems kind of pointless.
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link
kind of places an undue burden on the populace if we all have to buy and maintain guns and carry them around all the time if that's the safest solution, as some idiots keep claiming
― mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link
This seems like big news
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/28/business/dicks-major-gun-retailer-will-stop-selling-assault-style-rifles.html
― Moodles, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link
EXCUSE me NY Times please correct your headline to something more technically accurate
― Simon H., Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:26 (six years ago) link
Congratulations to Dicks on consigning all other gun dealers to the lowercase version of their name.
― Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link
assault-style lol
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link
"We will no longer sell assault-style rifles, also referred to as modern sporting rifles."
― jmm, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:33 (six years ago) link
― rb (soda)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKFH_zh4gY0
― ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:36 (six years ago) link
It makes me think of Dan Aykroyd as toy magnate Irwin Mainway, hawking Bag O'Nails, Bag O'Glass, Bag O'Vipers.... "We're just packaging what the kids want!"
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 14:42 (six years ago) link
Walmart raising gun purchase age to 21 and taking guns that look like assault style weapons off their website, whatever that means.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
conspiracy theory: dicks and walmart are raising the required age for a gun purchase in order to prompt an age discrimination lawsuit that they'll lose and will further entrench “gun rights”
― gbx, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:15 (six years ago) link
There’s no statutory recognition of age discrimination against the young, from what I understand.
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link
and you can't rent a car until you're 25 but I'm just saying what if man what if
― gbx, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link
a baby shd buy a gun
― lag∞n, Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:26 (six years ago) link
guys i just want to say
i think we're gonna be alright
because wal-mart and dick's are on the case
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link
like, i know it's stressful
but i think the nation can breathe just a little easier now that wal-mart and dick's are showing us the way forward, to a more humane society
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 March 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link
possibly relevant to our interests
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/28/intercepted-podcast-white-supremacy-and-the-church-of-the-second-amendment/
― Simon H., Thursday, 1 March 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link
L.L. Bean?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ll-bean-gun-purchases-21_us_5a9912a2e4b0479c02513486
― how's life, Friday, 2 March 2018 12:37 (six years ago) link
I had no idea LL Bean sold guns. Did they come in flannel?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 March 2018 14:25 (six years ago) link
read the article, man
anyway apparently Delta is calling Georgia's bluff. Good for them.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:39 (six years ago) link
Huh: re LL Bean.Just saw that REI no longer stocking stuff made by the hunting/gun company that makes CamelBak and ski goggles and stuff.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 March 2018 03:59 (six years ago) link
As an REI member since 1970, with a number just a tad over 170,000, I approve.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 3 March 2018 04:33 (six years ago) link
great idears
Tennessee state Rep. Andy Holt, a Republican, introduced a bill to let people carry guns in airports, with a special provision that bars local governments from passing their own gun regulations. It is next scheduled for consideration on Tuesday, March 6.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/despite-parkland-states-plow-ahead-with-new-pro-gun-bills
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 March 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link