yes ilx definitely died when all the hilarious hitler threads stopped
― brimstead, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link
Wins is it a thread connection
― Simpson L. (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link
Mordy you’re all over the boards with enthusiasm I don’t buy this ennui you’re evincing
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link
there are threads i still post on (outernational, MENA, ILG) but tbh i was telling the truth above 99% of the things i think to post i censor and just post in ilx chat or some other venue. generally it's not worth it.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
"ennui you're evincing" tho is a+
if you guys miss those women posters so much, you should personally invite them back! encourage them to return!the alternative is to go back to facebook. where most of them are active.lamenting their absence over and over is futile― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:31 AM (five hours ago)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:31 AM (five hours ago)
if ppl have other fulfilling things going on in their lives, it could seem weird and controlly to ask them to come back to a social space they have left, for one's own entertainment
and yeah, in the case of JBL I have told her that her voice is missed here and she said "no it isn't."
the alternative is to go back to facebook.
back?
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
if you guys miss those women posters so much, you should personally invite them back! encourage them to return!
please do not do this
― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
obv you want different things out of ilx than i do and that's fine esp since you got what you wanted
i do want different things, but i mean it when i say that i can understand why others would want other things. people approach messageboards in different ways which aren't necessarily stable over time. some people don't post on a thread unless they think they're particularly knowledgeable about the topic. they don't want to contribute unless they think they can provide unique insight, or to correct an obviously flawed line of reasoning that hasn't yet been questioned in the thread. i think that approach is not only commendable but also maybe the dominant strain on ilx.
i think i started out that way, too. but it started to feel weirdly disconnected and transactional to me. a person that only speaks when they're the expert is a useful person to have around, but they're usually not a friend. a friend often wades into topics they don't know anything about, and a good friend expresses vulnerability. when you post here for a while, you naturally start to get to know the people behind the posts and forming vague outlines of what they're like.
so i feel like ilx for some people is all about knowledge transfer (which again, is totally normal), but for others it's a more meta-thing that's also about people and personalities and even friendship. and for some other people it's a read only operation (lurkers), but i can understand why it's particularly irritating to the knowledge transfer only people. from their perspective it's like a group of annoying people in the hallway who keep butting into the classroom.
and many other approaches to posting beyond those, of course. for example i always admire those who can express things pithily, which is like a distant island to me
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
so i guess i feel like while i'm not opposed to other discourses, i came to ilx for the knowledge transactional culture and it feels like that in particular has receded making the value added less and less clear. (tbc it's no one's "fault" but i guess as certain posters have left, or scaled back their contributions, and what is left are fewer of the ppl whose knowledge i was hoping to extract or whatever.)
― Mordy, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
to expand: if I have reasons for leaving a community then, at least for me, the last thing I would want is to be reminded of it and/or to be guilted to return
― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link
bring back mandee and roxy and rrrobyn, in a circle of pitchforks
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:11 (six years ago) link
KM otm. Although pedagogical patience wrt those who are un-/underschooled about the topic at hand has not historically been one of ILX's strong points. It's nice when it happens but I by no means expect it.
― Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
everyone yelled at Calum on ILX and he left and wrote, like, five books. i'd like to think that we inspired him. i would also probably read his book on Cannibal Holocaust published by Columbia University Press.
I own the blu-ray of "The Burbs" that has a documentary by Calum on it!
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:23 (six years ago) link
I've talked to mandee lately, not sure what roxy is up to, rrrobyn still posts on occasion but is pretty busy in general
― mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
like i said, i could think of 100 reasons not to ask someone to return -- it's not difficult for me or anyone else to come up with reasons why inviting departed posters to return might be a bad ideabut i would be lying if i said that this conversation isn't making me want to take off myselfdoes anyone actually have a better idea or do you want to lament long lost posters indefinitely? they are all on facebook! if you don't want to meet them there or invite them back here, you don't get their shared thoughts i guess.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:31 (six years ago) link
but i would be lying if i said that this conversation isn't making me want to take off myself
Why?
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link
I don't get why you're so bothered by people just saying they miss certain posters.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link
KM yes that’s where I come from, I guess I’m oldschool but I don’t feel comfortable sharing anything too personal with strangers online, esp on an archived forum. I would be happy to meet up with people irl at shows but I never lived around any.
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
it's fine for things to end, or for people to end their interest in something. you're never really going to recreate a time or conversation.
― mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link
lol I just keep thinking of shakey always being adamant he couldn't tell posters apart and had no interest in who anyone was outside of the board
― mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
if I have reasons for leaving a community then, at least for me, the last thing I would want is to be reminded of it and/or to be guilted to return
I agree this is the most considerate approach. Our desire for the return of a few dozen valued ex-ilxors is not a license to question their choice to stay away. We are easy to find, if they choose to return.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
as are they if you miss them so much
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link
^ correct
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link
calum is a lot of the reason i left first time round: other posters have been nastier (inexcusably much nastier) but no one before or since brought out dislike in me to the extent he did -- so much so that i started disliking myself in that state of mind
(lol i have left and returned too often to count)
― mark s, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link
― mh, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:42 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this but unironically, unless someone uses their real name I probably have no idea who they are
― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
(semi-relatedly all this "KM" is throwing me for a loop)
― algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link
xxp seeing you around brings me a little bit of joy every time you post on an ilm thread I'm following, mark! especially now that your book's so close to being in my hands
― mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link
do you still have dreams of emma bunton and nicky wire in a banana suit, mark s.?
x-post
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link
i honestly don't remember a lot of what calum did other than the goofy thread titles.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link
fingers x-ed mh!
and thank you :)
STOP IT SCOTT, i try not to wish him ill, but my hackles just rise
― mark s, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link
they are all on facebook! if you don't want to meet them there
luv 2 be monetised by a company that breaks laws to sell elections to fascists who destroy the environment
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
none of us wanted to be here longer than Kevin Nealon was on SNL, but here we are
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
xp ^^^^ why ppl are leaving ilx in droves :drudgesiren:
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
(I hope you don't leave, LL!)
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
excellent impression of a finger-pointing US lib there, sic
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
sic is, surprisingly, on twitter with good cat content and jokes about your mother, though
― mh, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link
should i post about my love for paddington bear movie on the website that has literally all my friends family and colleagues or on the website that is deserted but untouched by russian interests? i don't know what to do!
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 3:04 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Also you can share funny memes
― Evan, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:11 (six years ago) link
i'll also admit that i have issues wrt people saying "i miss u" and then doing jack shit about it
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link
aww, i miss jack shit. oh well
― i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link
we can share funny memes here! hahahaha!!!
http://quotesnhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Top-50-Funniest-Memes-Collection-memes-famous.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
if ppl get a new job and move to a different city, and I miss seeing them, I don't send them a telegram telling them to move back
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
― brimstead, Tuesday, February 27, 2018 10:31 AM (one hour ago)
very few of them were actually about hitler.
― sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY
― scotti pruitti (wins), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link
did markers quit or
― sarahell, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link
The shifting gender balance is by far the most concerning thing, to my mind, all that said. (Would be v. keen to hear any technical ideas that might help w/that)
― stet, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 02:06 (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
legitimately surprised this didn't become a thread (and i don't mean in a "hurrr" sense, i really think this would be valuable)
― reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:29 (six years ago) link
if ppl get a new job and move to a different city, and I miss seeing them, I don't send them a telegram telling them to move backthis is not what i was suggesting but you're right that it's a bad idea
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, February 27, 2018 2:04 PM (twenty-two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
New board description, plz.
― Here Comes The Brain Event (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link
Is the gender split really much lower now than over 10-15 years ago?It may only seem like it if the number of regulars in general has steadily dropped over the last ten years. Shame either way though.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
there definitely used to be more women participating in more threads. there was also a healthy flirtatiousness/sexual energy. all gone.
― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link