Why do people leave ILX for good?

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* wrote this on zing and it wouldn't post and by the time I got to keyboard, where I was up to was lost in the fold. one thing doesn't change: ilx loves talking about itself.

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:45 (six years ago) link

imo the best approach instead of catching up is removing all bookmarks and starting fresh

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

If there were, say, a French equivalent to ILX (please point me in the right direction if you're aware of one, thx), I'd probably feel less inclined to spend time here. The Anglocentrism (in the broad sense) is kind of stifling sometimes, down to the overemphasis on ID politics.

pomenitul, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link

ilx declined when I stopped lurking and started posting regularly

correlation is not causation :-)

the other claimed to still post, but I haven't seen them do so for years

verifiable through a Search on 'username' + 'posts' + 'most recent first'

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

Strongly miss the volume of female posters generally

yep. if there's anything "wrong" with ILX, it's this.

i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

overemphasis on ID politics lol

brimstead, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

Geir said last year in the ilx now playing group that he was thinking of delurking on ilx to post again.

I still remember when he turned up after being an ilx bogeyman initially and tom had to post verifying it was really him when he did arrive

― Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, February 26, 2018 2:41 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

omg, Geir? I'm happy to hear he's still out there loving music.

how's life, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

sorry carry on

brimstead, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

roxy hasn't posted for a long time, she is missed.

omar little, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

overemphasis on ID politics lol

This is exactly what I'm talking about. For structural reasons, it's probably not as apparent if you live in the US/UK/Anglo Canada, etc.

pomenitul, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

surprised how many people here seem to know each other IRL. I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

I found Geir active again on RYM recently and very nearly added him as a friend

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

geir still loves the same music he always did

you can join the group https://www.facebook.com/groups/ilxorsnowplaying/

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

personally I cannot imagine why there aren't more female posters

algorithm is a dancer (katherine), Monday, 26 February 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

imo the best approach instead of catching up is removing all bookmarks and starting fresh

I believe it was more a general vibe than that the poster used bookmarks at all

verifiable through a Search on 'username' + 'posts' + 'most recent first'

I'm well aware, but search is not available on zing

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

why do people leave ILX for God?

piper at the gates of d'awwww (voodoo chili), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

(I had checked by the time I posted, and the last post for one username was March 2014, with the previous username stopping in November 2005, but I dunno if they had another more recently)

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

i only leave ILX for food

alien lames (NickB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

surprised how many people here seem to know each other IRL. I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

― frogbs, Monday, February 26, 2018 1:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, was it gr80?

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

It was a direct descendant of 90s alt.music.alternative in a way.

It was indeed.

I spent a few hours with a fellow ILXor and it was a seriously surreal experience. especially since most of the conversation was about how the stars consistently kept aligning to integrate Ned Raggett into this guy's life

...I don't even know what to say to that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

And katherine OTM of course.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

lucky guess

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

I'm kind of amazed sometimes how many people from ilx I've been fortunate to meet either by chance or design

then there's the near misses, like the realization I probably used to walk past the currently-screen-named JCLC in the grocery store all the time before I posted here

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:07 (six years ago) link

re: facebook diaspora - I am happy to return to an ad-free, grassrootsy, weird, non commercial environment

Facebook is a tool of the wicked, but we must do what we can with it since so many of us are trapped there

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

I still can't believe the one time years and years back when I was at LACMA visiting with a then-fairly-recently-arrived UK friend (non-ILX) and we were walking around in a courtyard and I heard a 'hello there' or the like right behind me and I turned around and it was gabbneb.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

I don't even know what to say to that.

"my work is done" or something like that

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:15 (six years ago) link

I was going to ask if it was G too lol.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

overemphasis on ID politics, or as we now call it in the USA, the totality of modern life.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

xp to be fair he tells a very good tale of Ned

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

The weird thing is that gr80 has also now collectively met my entire immediate family aside from my mom, as well as meeting my girlfriend, and every time it's been outside of California.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link

yeah I know

frogbs, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

tbh I'd double-check with your mom to make sure they haven't randomly met and you're merely unaware

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

x-post - lol!

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

I only really post intermittently and during polls (especially the metal poll which is always lovely). I start to get really depressed if I spend too long here, which is in part due to my own irrational paranoia but also has a lot to do with how quickly some posters seem to spring to a hostile response. I feel like this level of conflict is unprecedented...I mean, not on the internet of course, but I want ILX to be a haven from all of that. And the conflict is part of the fun, but not when it’s so frequent and really hurtfully personal.

Also it really upsets me how some of you speak to and about imago! Living with him, I think he is just really quite different to how he gets portrayed here sometimes... I know he’s part of creating that perception too of course, but I think the extent of the response is sometimes incongruous with what’s been said, just because it’s imago. Obviously all posters should be held accountable for bullshit or offensive things but the level of aggression is quite high where he is concerned.

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

Wait is this an LJ sock?

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

Hi tt!

scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:24 (six years ago) link

Ban tange— no im sorry

stet, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link

Living with him, I think he is just really quite different to how he gets portrayed here sometimes... I know he’s part of creating that perception too of course,

imagine what he'd be like IRL by the time you met him if he hadn't been so relentlessly bullied by the sculptor's chisel here

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

I like imago and barely interact with him on ilm but I must guiltily admit when gr80 made a zine, I asked if I could be listed in the donors as "Ban LJ" and he wisely denied me

mh, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link

the more this place becomes a Twitter Annex the less i care

It's always been a decent aggregator though, now it's an aggregator aggregator.

ID politics killed ilx btw

I would say this is right-but-wrong - a lot of the rest of the web became either less boys-only, or far more so. ILX stayed more or less where it is, but leaking women. But ILX is rarely the only site that anyone goes to, so if other sites have better balances (and are aware of them) then so it goes.

Probably worth revisiting jbr's last posts here, tbh.

The Runaways - classic or dud?

are U a straight white male

I am still a fan of ILX, though.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:30 (six years ago) link

I posted 17 or so years ago and left after a thread I started turned into some old fashioned meanness and subsequently lurked after. Current board seems less tough

kolakube (Ross), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:31 (six years ago) link

Hi wins!

xps I am in many ways thankful for the grand work the bullying has done, but maybe now it can just be a meme (until the next time he casts a sweeping generalisation with certainty).

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link

you're all pricks!

imago, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

hey tt! not seen you post much outside of metal poll!

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:35 (six years ago) link

x-post - awww! I was just kidding. Fwiw the worst thing I've ever seen you post was the fish/chocolate thing. <3

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

worse than poppage?

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

it really has been just a meme for most of the last decade tt!

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:37 (six years ago) link

I think that's true for some posters but not for others

scotti pruitti (wins), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

Most of my posts are sent internally but sometimes I post on the emo thread

Launch of new ILM school business management programmes! (tangenttangent), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:38 (six years ago) link

I once saw real ILE people on the street and I was so amazed, like some fabric of reality unwound right there, I could not bring myself to make contact - how weird!

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Monday, 26 February 2018 20:39 (six years ago) link


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