Always have a hard time w these convos cos I have no idea how to judge wilt/o/b russel/west and those types, even Jabar to an extent.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:07 (six years ago) link
The argument about all-time players basically comes down to how much weight you give to the state of the league when that player was active. iow, if you rose far above the average of your time, but perhaps would be a replacement level starter today, how do you evaluate that?
The net effect of much larger populations playing the game internationally, combined with the refinements in training and technique, driven by obsessive competition for vastly larger sums of money, ensures that the average player today is far more capable than when the Knicks won their last championship. Setting oneself apart as a superstar in the current NBA is about 10x more difficult than when Bob Cousy played.But Bob Cousy is inarguably an all-time great.
Once you solve the problem outlined above, ranking the best ever is child's play.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
just about all the current players are ridic high, and then putting harden at 60 seems really low when kd and steph are top 20, and russ and cp3 are top 40
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Monday, 26 February 2018 02:22 (six years ago) link
cp3 should easily be top 25 at this point imo. russ is too high. steph seems a little high but he'll easily end up top 20
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 February 2018 02:34 (six years ago) link
they keep switching onto jokic :(
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 February 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link
whoops wrong thread
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 February 2018 02:41 (six years ago) link
switch hakeem and shaq ime
― rip van wanko, Monday, 26 February 2018 02:56 (six years ago) link
yeah shaq's too high
― NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Monday, 26 February 2018 03:09 (six years ago) link
shaq seems just right to me, here is the list of players with the most seasons of a PER >25: http://bkref.com/tiny/zFwmI
dude was a beast
― k3vin k., Monday, 26 February 2018 03:31 (six years ago) link
yeah shaq was insane. he should be above kobe
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Monday, 26 February 2018 03:33 (six years ago) link
kobe should probably be in the top 50
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Monday, 26 February 2018 03:41 (six years ago) link
Me too low imo
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Monday, 26 February 2018 04:55 (six years ago) link
i get the argument for kobe in the top 15 or so, not sure i buy it but i get it, but top 5 is certifiable
― Clay, Monday, 26 February 2018 05:35 (six years ago) link