sorry that 2nd link should have been:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09rn2mb
& I highly recommend it, Gideon Coe is a big fan & lawrence is on good form.
― cw, Saturday, 24 February 2018 11:48 (six years ago) link
If you love Felt but dismiss Denim or Go-Kart Mozart give them another chance. The idea that they are all novelty songs is wrong. Yes, there's "The New Potatoes" but that's an anomaly. There's a lot of serious, clever and creative songwriting about consumerism, drug addiction, failed love affairs, being in a band etc - which Felt also covered - instrumentals not much different from Let The Snakes Crinkle Their Heads or Train Above the City. The vocals are more upfront than Felt and delivered much more confidently. There's waves of instruments that dominate the songs but instead of Deebank doing his endless guitar solo or Duffy doing his endless organ solo you get endless synth soloing and sequencers. The production aesthetic is a bit different but on albums like Instant Wigwam or Denim On Ice the DNA is 95% the same.
― everything, Saturday, 24 February 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
"In the seventies there were Osmands" is excellent
― brimstead, Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:26 (six years ago) link
Genuinely feel sorry for the Felt fans who don’t realise everything he did afterwards is superior
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
Don't knock "The New Potatoes", by the way, Charlie Brooker picked it as his no.1 musical choice on Desert Island Discs.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link
Back In Denim is Lawrence's masterpiece. It's the perfect balance of everything I love about him. Denim On Ice isn't far behind. The Go-Kart Mozart albums haven't quite been in the same league.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 25 February 2018 02:33 (six years ago) link
Totally agree with that but as per thread title Lawrence is a genius and Instant Wigwam proves it also imo..
― everything, Sunday, 25 February 2018 03:15 (six years ago) link
Tearing Up The Album Chart is my favourite of the Go-Kart albums. It seems the most fleshed out and songs like Glorious Chorus, Listening To Marmalade and City Centre are up there with the best Denim songs. Instant Wigwam has grown on me over the years but a lot of the songs seem like good ideas that are underdeveloped. We're Selfish, Lazy & Greedy and Here Is A Song are nice songs that suffer from being way too repetitive. Mrs Back To Front is the highlight. It's Lawrence at his most inspired.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 25 February 2018 04:18 (six years ago) link
Mrs. Back to Front is genius. Good example of where instant wigwam works so well - songs, jokes, angst, pastiche, kitsch, experimentalism all in one track.
― everything, Sunday, 25 February 2018 04:38 (six years ago) link
Instant Wigwam does sound like a nervous breakdown set to music
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 25 February 2018 11:28 (six years ago) link
are these albums actually remixed? I missed that, I assumed tey were just remastered (if that)
― akm, Sunday, 25 February 2018 15:35 (six years ago) link
oh only six songs on Ignite were remixed. I wonder why.
― akm, Sunday, 25 February 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link
Yeah, it sounds weird that some of them still have that old style production. I'm glad they didn't touch Primitive Painters. It's perfect as it is.
― kitchen person, Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
From reading interviews Lawrence has said that the guitar effects were recorded to tape rather than recording the guitars dry and then adding the effect later so I dunno how much he had to work with. I don't mind the original production that much, it certainly works on Primitive Painters.
― self heating (brownie), Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link
Lawrence says in the radio interview that he took the master tapes for the songs that had vocals and they used those tapes to do the remastering. I assume the rest of the untouched songs are instrumental + Primitive Painters.
― brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:33 (six years ago) link
from recent interview at the quietus:
He did one song that was really good, which was 'Primitive Painters'. But that was because when we got back from Scotland where we'd recorded it we remixed it in a big London studio, because it was going to be a single. But on the rest of the album he just applied his Cocteau Twins techniques to Felt, which I didn't want him to do at all.
So I knew that one day I was definitely going to remix those six tracks, the ones with singing on them. And what I did was I took the master tapes home from Edinburgh at the end of that session. I stole them and I kept them with me for all of these years.
― new noise, Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
call me crazy but i listen to felt for the endless guitar/organ solos paired with some catchy singing sometimes by a guy who sounds like a goofy tom verlaine. no so much in it for hyper ironic lyrics and production
i gave GKM a listen and it's not bad and i'll be spending more time with it. but all yall saying that it's better than felt are out of your minds. taste is subjective and all but that's about as close as you can get to having an objectively wrong opinion
― scoff walker (diamonddave85), Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
Go Kart Mozart - Marc Riley Session #2 12th February 2018
― new noise, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link
"But on the rest of the album he just applied his Cocteau Twins techniques to Felt, which I didn't want him to do at all." well poo on you lawrence but this is one of guthrie's best production jobs.
― akm, Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
Case #4394016 where an artist can't appreciate their own work.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 26 February 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
Although he supposedly hated the sound on Poem Of The River even more - the rumour has it he threw the tapes in the Thames, although I think that's a tall story. Wonder if he'd remix that too, given access.
― PaulTMA, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link
in lawrence's defence i don't think i've ever read anything about ignite that hasn't been critical of the production.
― new noise, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
http://www.furious.com/perfect/felt.html
I was going to chuck these tapes into the Thames and tell McGee there's no album. He said, 'I've put my last six grand into this album. I've sold it to all these European companies! If you don't deliver the tapes, I'm finished and Creation's finished!' I had to give it to him!
― new noise, Monday, 26 February 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
Listened to the remixed tracks from "Ignite The Seven Cannons". I think I'm just too used to the original versions, these don't seem like an improvement at all.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 4 March 2018 01:37 (six years ago) link
xpost
i bet mcgee had a similar talk with kevin shields, and i bet kevin shields just went ahead and chucked it into the river
― i remember the corned beef of my childhood (Karl Malone), Sunday, 4 March 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link
Eye-opening interview from MAURICE DEEBANK no lesshttps://www.outsideleft.com/main.php?updateID=1528
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 4 March 2018 18:47 (six years ago) link
wow!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Sunday, 4 March 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
Why am I enjoying the new one so much?
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 14:13 (six years ago) link
Has Maurice Deebank gone on the record before to that extent?
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 15:48 (six years ago) link
thank you for reminding me to read this. enjoying it so far!
At sixteen I acquired my first electric guitar. It really was an amazing event, as I could now learn techniques and conjure up sounds that hitherto had been out of reach. It was at that time that I encountered a fellow villager named, Lawrence.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 16:00 (six years ago) link
he really knocks the answer to "what was your musical vision?" out of the park!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link
Glad to read his side of things for once. So much frustration.
― burzum buddies (brownie), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link
His ego is so massive he makes Lawrence look humble in comparison
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:14 (six years ago) link
Seems like a fairly troubled individual? He hasn't done anything since Felt at all, has he? Over 30 years ago.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link
by the end i found myself wondering the same thingwondering what he had been up to if he only made one solo album since then (and he was a very enjoyable guitarist to listen to, but i haven't heard his solo album -- nor do i expect it to be "indie" lol)
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:25 (six years ago) link
Not as good as Vini Reilly, I'm afraid to say.
― Buff Jeckley (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:28 (six years ago) link
if you like the instrumental stuff on the early felt albums you'll probably enjoy his solo record (which was made when he was still in felt).
― new noise, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link
he made this one song with saint etienne
― new noise, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:50 (six years ago) link
I really like Inner Thought Zone! It's got a few tracks reminiscent of early Felt (The Watery Song, Golden Hills, Dance of Deliverance) and some other more classical guitar-type stuff that's really great but slides into kinda new age treacliness (which I don't mind at all) like So Serene and a Tale from Scriabin's Lonely Trail
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
wow the Spanish tv video linked in the Deebank interview is great, hadn't seen it before. it's better quality than that awful official live DVD from 15 years ago or so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUcw_CkIkT8
― piscesx, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link
yeah, that was posted above.
i feel bad for maurice. but he will live forever.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
slides into kinda new age treacliness (which I don't mind at all) like So Serene and a Tale from Scriabin's Lonely Trail
those tracks you singled out (and a couple of others) were recorded for the album's cd release in 1992.
― new noise, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link
Interesting that Golden Hills is from 1992, it sounds to me one of the most Crumbling-like tracks!
― erry red flag (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link
Listened to the remixed tracks from "Ignite The Seven Cannons". I think I'm just too used to the original versions, these don't seem like an improvement at all.― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, March 4, 2018 12:37 PM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
heh, I'm on my first play and I've got the exact opposite view. it's a huge improvement for me
― Isi, Sunday, 11 March 2018 12:19 (six years ago) link
Fair enough. I didn't listen to them back-to-back, maybe that will give me a different perspective.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 11 March 2018 12:46 (six years ago) link
A nice look back at Forever here: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/felt-forever-breathes-the-lonely-word/amp/
― brimstead, Sunday, 26 May 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link
Nice. That was my first Felt acquisition (well, the twofer with Poem of the River) almost a decade after its release, and seems destined to be my favourite forever. The "Cherry Red/Deebank >>>> Creation/Duffy" talk at that time seemed overwhelming so a piece just straight out stating that Forever is their best record is fine by me.
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 27 May 2019 04:18 (four years ago) link
“a wave crashed on rocks” might be my favorite felt song
― brimstead, Monday, 27 May 2019 04:30 (four years ago) link
Surprise guest appearance by an ILX0r in that writeup.
― TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 May 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link
"Denim On Ice", love that album, the songs are so catchy and the lyrics are stupendous.
― The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Sunday, 26 April 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link