Janelle Monáe - Dirty Computer album/film

i feel like i'm treading on touchy ground here and i'm sorry but i also feel like it's weird that trans men rarely speak up for their rights as vociferously and i wonder if it's at least partially because of socialization

Glad you jumped in, maura. I wasn't feeling great about piling into this argument, but also felt Janelle was being unfairly called out.

it's really frustrating because obviously transphobia is a big problem! but the erasure of afab women's experience – which has its own HOST of societal stigmas, like i have lived in so much fear of bleeding through my various menstrual supplies that my life is markedly different now that i have an apparatus to stop my period, because i have often been confronted with zero supplies – isn't the answer

anyway these songs are both great

(and i know gloria steinem's 'if men could menstruate' is problematic in the lexicon of the times but seriously, if amab men could menstruate, things would be REALLY FUCKIN DIFFERENT in public bathrooms)

(ok maybe not in gas station ones but most others)

but then again, cis white male talking, so....

Moodles is so close to having a breakthrough right here

Haha, don't hold your breath, I'm rapidly turning into old man yells at cloud.

framing womanhood and the vagina as inherently linked is kinda.... the opposite of being a trans ally....

― heliogabberlus, vendredi 23 février 2018 17:35 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

God forbid the idea that someone with a different sexual/racial/gender experience can't identify with something different.

My brain keeps mixing up "Make Me Feel" with "Kiss", except not the Prince version. The Art of Noise featuring Tom Jones version.

xpost hey maura the drake thing was me and to me her flow sounds exactly like drake, which may be more a testament to how influential he has become and how far his flow has really been incorporated into rap at this point.

I personally can't hear that flow and not think Drake but maybe others hear it different.

i blame Drake for everything

framing womanhood and the vagina as inherently linked is kinda.... the opposite of being a trans ally....

― heliogabberlus, vendredi 23 février 2018 17:35 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

God forbid the idea that someone with a different sexual/racial/gender experience can't identify with something different.

― Van Horn Street, Saturday, February 24, 2018 3:29 AM (thirteen hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

maura's otm but trans women shouldn't have the burden put on them to identify w afab women

Prince connection is legit, guys:

So it turns out that Prince did the music on the new Janelle Monae track, "Make Me Feel", according to his DJ, Lenka Paris :) pic.twitter.com/FqosHWK5MZ

— Casey Rain | S-Endz | The Neosoulja (@CaseyRain) February 24, 2018

:O

I heard this for the first time at the weekend and had to go hunting for what it was later, thought it might be her but wasn't sure. Think it's terrific, who cares if it sounds like 'Kiss'? The vocal line in the bridge is what really makes it, and that's new.

I’m sorry but I think it’s terrible...kinda has the same effect on me as Uptown Funk...leaves me cold...can’t hear the Kiss comparisons either...

c'mon

I'm not a fan either, but it's clearly heavily indebted to Kiss

It might be but I haven’t been able to get to the end...

so is this going to be a lock for pazz & jop #1 once it becomes her first mainstream hit? lol

Well Carly Rae Jepsen does have a new album planned for this year...

That's ILM's #1

Maybe we'll see a tie.

like Django Jane

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaYvlVR_BEc

collab with grimes(?), really great i think

I don't love it. So far "Make Me Feel" is the only single from this record that's really worked for me. It's the guitars that ruin it.

But it could have been worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfbBqBOSXlU

thanks for that

it's like red but not quite

I like this one a lot.

Well as much as I like this new song, it certainly doesn't extenuate the critique heliogabberlus offered up-thread.

I like the song, but the video is a masterpiece of queer art.

This is fantastic, and the vid is A+++ too <3

This is my least favorite of the new ones, a little too cutesy for me.

videos are all better than the songs, which makes sense i guess

this is so great

just read a funny Grace Jones dis of JM that i'll link later if i'm really bored

Video is A+ but something about the car/boulevard line that makes me think of Rebecca Black's "Friday".

lol Aerosmith got writing credits for this

the song isn't great tbh

but all for this further-out-and-prouder vibe

Ha ha, holy shit, I had no idea it was actually borrowed from the Aerosmith song. I just heard the similarities and made the joke.

surely that's a "getting ahead of ourselves" song credit. the verse melodies aren't dissimilar

The vocal line in the bridge is what really makes it, and that's new.

― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:03 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Exactly! The "little bit of tender" line is one of the most awesome uses of a descending chromatic scale since the Yes song "Then" from "Time and a Word".

I hope Janelle and Tessa never announce they're dating and just keep making more elaborate music videos until they accidentally shoot Jodorosky's Dune

— rachel jane andelman (@rajandelman) April 11, 2018

^
Gets it

I would be ok with hearing this everywhere this summer.

This song is super easy breezy

Love it

I am going back and looking at the video for Make Me Feel and holy holy, JM is such perfection.

maura otm xposts ago. I was wearing peach shorts.

On relistening aside from Django Jane these two other singles are mediocre imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xAMnJgc3oA

this one's not on the same level as Make Me Feel or Pynk but still very nice

Yeah that's crazy, Always felt like there was an obvious gulf between the range of things she can do with her voice and what she's trying to do in her music.

On a lot of songs her singing is often clipped and tense (best word I can think of to describe it) because of the density and occasional clunkiness of her lyrics, and her pastiching ways but I didn't imagine that the underlying quality of her voice would be obscured by that.

Like if she made a career of singing like this it wouldn't cross anybodies mind to question her voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoJz8yWNbNg

Janelle has an amazing voice

I wish I could love Janelle like you guys love Janelle. It all sounds flat to me.

I think her voice is great, which is why the autotune on this disc sorta irks me

so far I like this a lot. I'm glad it's not ultra long like the last two. ArchAndroid probably had better tunes but I think this is her most solid offering so far.

Excellent article (cover story) of recent rolling stone

Confirmed how pivotal religious music and culture was to her growing up which is all over this record but in monae’s unique spin

my favourite record this year

Saw her live for the first time this past Friday. Great show- strong vocals, dancing, backing visuals, good band and dancers. A fair amount of social and political commentary. While I have nitpicked her songwriting and vocal delivery in the past, those items didn’t bother me too much Friday. Had me reconsidering a bit.

she is excellent live

She makes a couple appearances on the just-released Sorry to Bother You OST.

Saw her on Colbert last week too

thanks for the tip Simon

man the Pharrell track really sounds like she's trying to do Fergie doesn't it

idk it might be my favorite song on here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ivqFkLYxp8

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Ui5QKq4yA

Yes! Saw those. I think they first aired the night I was seeing her live

Anyone read this?

https://www.harpercollins.com/pages/the-memory-librarian

back with some slightly reggae-ish afrobeat-trap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xf28VXMB2w
Janelle Monáe feat. Seun Kuti & Egypt 80 • Float

really underwhelming

Yeah I got really excited at the prospect of Janelle Monae doing afrobeat when I saw the artwork and Seun Kuti and Egypt 80 involved but then the actual song isn’t really interesting.