defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

IIRC Tribe tweeted about the crash that supposedly killed a political enemy, who it turned out wasn't on the plane? (I can't recall if he explicitly suggested it was tied to the dossier's contents.)

Holy christ that anyone on here would be okay with calling this 'the Russian dossier operation orchestrated and funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign'

That's like Benghazi-level right wing conspiracy language.

buuuut it's troo?

so ja i'm OK with it

the gessen piece is worthy of some discussion on a different thread imho

I think I already linked it.....somewhere, at some point. all these threads move fast.

Morbs, you're insane. It's not true, it's what the Devin Nunes spin says. Are you watching Fox News all day?

Wait, are we going along with the implication that that alone makes the dossier info less credible or just saying it’s fair to acknowledge it began as oppo research?

The latter.

yes

F, get some help

She is clearly not saying the latter. She is calling the whole Russian investigation fallout from the dossier, which is the Nunes bullshit.

"Hillary Clinton is a lizard person who didn't visit Wisconsin"
"Holy shit, what's wrong with this idiot?"
"What?!?!?! She didn't visit Wisconsin. FUCKYOUFUCKYOURAKJSBRÅOAUBÅTGBÅ"

She refers to it as “the discredited dossier” at one point.

presumably GG is not endorsing every single assertion by Ms Hemingway

but really guys keep yr trashfire going

That’s true. Shouldn’t discount possibility that he only the part of the article that mentioned him.

morbs your favorite crew is shilling for a hack opportunist, how u feel??

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/22/emilys-list-laura-moser-texas-congress/

pretty good debate

https://theintercept.com/2018/02/21/video-glenn-greenwald-and-james-risen-debate-the-trumprussia-investigation/

tetra, i don't even care to click, and my fave crew is the '73 Mets

actually dude, most anything that pisses off EMILY's List is fine with me

One of his best moments

Yes, I do. And I'd be happy to bet you any amount of money that he will.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 18, 2018

would find greenwald perfectly defensible if he never tweeted

most of his tweets are fine tbh

Amazing. Apparently his defense is that he confused him with his father. Believing that Ron Paul would react any differently is just as stupid, though.

He probably is a libertarian more than a progressive.

good to know, exactly what i was talking about

dp

xp***

doing great today lol

Xpost Yeah without question he’d vote for Rand over Bernie Sanders

I...don't actually think that's true

It's absolutely true that he wears cargo shorts, flip-flops, and his house stinks of dog.

He probably is a libertarian more than a progressive.

― Frederik B, 24. april 2018 19:00 (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah without question he’d vote for Rand over Bernie Sanders

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, 24. april 2018 19:15 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I...don't actually think that's true

― Simon H., 24. april 2018 19:16 (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No, because Rand ain't Ron

does Nerdstrom report to gabbneb at the DNC?

i don't actually know what Greenwald's politics are but his husband is a socialist politician

i quit reading GG more than a year ago and he is very annoying on a lot of subjects, but he is not a libertarian, and it's "stupid" (to borrow the only adjective fred appears to know) to keep saying that

he's not libertarian much at all. He's just very strident in the contrarian positions that he takes. He's really treating Joy Reid like a chew toy in the past few days.

can't imagine why he'd be taking offense at joy ann reid right now

it ain't hard tbh

His focus on Joy Reid has been ongoing, MSNBC anchors are usually the culprit when the president or the GOP does something bad.. Also he’s definitely not the guy who gets to complain about anyone else’s problematic old blog posts.

yes the gay man cannot complain about homophobic posts

and he's been sooooo vicious about it

People have the right to change. I believed Joy Reid's apology for those anti-gay blog posts she wrote (they were before the Dem Party officially changed its views on these questions). But her claim that these newly discovered, horribly bigoted posts are fake needs to be verified https://t.co/LYd1rnT07f

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) April 23, 2018

When he praises Tucker Carlson and speaks wistfully about Ron Paul, yeah we can say the selectively is suspect in his case

i'm gonna say the gay guy can complain about old homophobic blog posts regardless of how much of a dumbshit he's been in history

Well yeah I definitely agree it shouldn’t be illegal.

it should just be criticized by straight men on the internet

Xpost Yeah without question he’d vote for Rand over Bernie Sanders

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:15 PM (three hours ago)

I always wonder when people say things like this whether they're dumb or just uninformed

like I certainly don't read all the tweets and essays of the people I hate, and I don't expect other people to. but it seems that the least one could do if they're not going to bother doing any reading or critical thinking is just not to say anything

greenwald is a progressive and a civil libertarian, but what's most important to understand is he's a contrarian, and for whatever reason he sees it as his duty to police the left. this can obviously become tiring pretty quickly but I think it's a legitimate beat. of course it's fair game to disagree with his conclusions

That's because there's not much of a click reward for being merely a skeptic--gotta go full blown contrarian to have a beat that pays.

k3vin otm

Greenwald styles himself a consistent advocate of free speech, but he celebrated the censorship and legal harassment of a leftist who wrote about "anti-establishment" fascist entryism. https://t.co/IqJGKxxvpY

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) April 24, 2018

The Guardian and WaPo benefited professionally from his work w Snowden exposing the NSA, to the tune of both winning 2014 Pulitzer. somehow he's a bad contrarian and they aren't, even though they happily mined those "click rewards".