I always cry when the Pumpkins play 'I Dreamed a Dream' live. But boy do I laugh when they play 'Master of the House'.
― Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
PO2.5
― bald butte (∞), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link
Number of Good Poll Options Had By the Pearl Cream
Where do you like to listen to #PearlJam?— Pearl Jam (@PearlJam) February 22, 2018
― how's life, Thursday, 22 February 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link
lmao holy shit @ "at the gym"
― flappy bird, Thursday, 22 February 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link
hey spin the black circle is a great gym song
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link
don't tickle squatters not fair to
― Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 22 February 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link
I can provide a Paypal address?― imago, Tuesday, February 20, 2018 4:17 PM (five days ago)Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― imago, Tuesday, February 20, 2018 4:17 PM (five days ago)Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sheez. The good days are well and truly over
― the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 25 February 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link
(I think you might like "Starla", imago--stoner rock epic the last half of which is fully in thrall to some inexorable vertiginous build)
― the man from P.O.R.L.O.C.K. (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
haha OK, will check out
― imago, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
will check out gratis, even
― imago, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
'Starla' is one of their very best tracks.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link
hmm this isn't bad at all yeah
― imago, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
it's their Safesurfer, haha
― imago, Sunday, 25 February 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link
the 5 minute guitar solo that's essentially the second half of Starla was recorded in 1 take at 7am when they were under deadline to deliver a B-side. they really should've done more spontaneous stuff like that in the studio. X.Y.U., Pissant, and Marquis in Spades are the only other SP tracks I can think of that were recorded totally live, vocals and all.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:27 (six years ago) link
Starla's also the track in which you can hear an ambulance drive by, no?
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:36 (six years ago) link
yes! also on "Soothe" you can hear the early morning buses outside Billy's apartment
― flappy bird, Sunday, 25 February 2018 21:53 (six years ago) link
I always liked that they kept that in. At the time it felt very PI-y to have done so, b-sides and all, but you are right about the spontaneous approach over all and that that did them a world of good. It's a shame Corgan lost the ability to let it hang loose once in a while.
*cue: 'horses run once in awhile for u*
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
It's a shame Corgan lost the ability to let it hang loose once in a while.
ha this reminded me that "Shame" from Adore was recorded mostly live, with the vocals at the end overdubbed. Probably some guitars, too. I'm excluding anything (like "For Martha") that was tracked live but without vocals.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link
Yeah! Adore was probably an exception, in that it's so achingly close the way it's recorded and not polished (Blank Page, Annie Dog etc). Death does that tho.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
oh yeah, add Annie-Dog to the list. I think Dusty + Pistol Pete, too, though that might just be an example of a song that didn't change much from the demo and one that wouldn't be on the album if D'arcy hadn't fought for it. Blank Page doesn't really count because the parts were recorded separately. Although the lyrics were written in the studio as he was tracking the piano, and I believe recorded shortly thereafter. Such a sparse track (what else is on there besides the ring-modulated guitars?), and a top 10 pumpkins track for me.
oh yeah, a lot of "To Sheila" is live - guitar & main vox tracked live.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 25 February 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
Show will be timed to minute and will run same set list every night due to production concerns, massive setlist, and need to be A level Broadway type show. We have to prove to the world we can compete at highest level or tour will never get out of America.
https://www.alternativenation.net/smashing-pumpkins-darcy-shares-billy-corgan-guns-n-roses-reunion-offer/
cool man
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 27 February 2018 01:06 (six years ago) link
They will never get out of America
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
I saw Smashing Pumpkins at primaverasound a decade ago. It was like watching scarecrows with guitars on stage... even Low gave a more lively performance that night.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 00:43 (six years ago) link
Jimmy Chamberlin's drumming was the thing that hooked me in after Gish came out. They had a bunch of tunes that had a cool galloping groove and I really liked that feel (like Siva, I Am One & Bury Me). Did not really become a sustaining fan of the band, but I like that first one and some of their other tunes.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link
Yeah Gish is the one I love too. Chamberlin is really good, I know Corgan writes mostly everything but I can’t imagine SP being half as famous without those drums.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:32 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoG0P0C3geQ
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:41 (six years ago) link
Oooh, this one is even better!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW8ie73w78k
I remember back when Gish came out, I don't remember why I bought it - I was in Philly at the time, in high school, and I think I saw a review of it in Option? Anyway, even back then it was the drums that kept me hooked, and ... maybe everything but the drums that kept me from going back to it that often? I'm not sure I ever owned a copy of Siamese Dream, but if I did it was to listen to his playing on Geek USA.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:47 (six years ago) link
Pinkpop 1994 Jimmy cam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC8Ky7Lb2Ko
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 05:53 (six years ago) link
Whoa that view is amazing. Do they have a cam for every band member and do this for all pinkpop performances? I can imagine selling dvds of concerts where you can choose the same concert but sticking to a certain view you want to see instead of cutting to different takes be helpful for learning musicians and hardcore fans.
Btw that flawless-blink and you’ll miss it moment qhen Jimmy changes a broken stick for a new one at the start of minute 30 is fucking pro.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 07:20 (six years ago) link
nah just a hero that uploaded one of the cam feeds
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 07:24 (six years ago) link
Chamberlin put out a jazz album recently that's quite good.
― grawlix (unperson), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:15 (six years ago) link
there's some great Genesis videos that are just Collins playing drums that are cool
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link
http://images2.onionstatic.com/clickhole/5203/3/16x9/800.jpg
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Thursday, 1 March 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
I had no idea that Corgan was MAGA until this thread pulled me into his sad orbit
― Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 1 March 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link
Wow that Pinkpop version of Hummer ("minute 30") swings and breathes so much more than the album cut.
― startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 1 March 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
I've been making records since 1992 and that fuckin text chain between him and Darcy is some of the most loathsome shit I've ever seen from one musician in a band to another. "Your shoulder needs to heal, so maybe 2-7 songs" "well, the doctor says I'll be completely healed" "right, we don't want you to exceed your comfort level. maybe a very tight guest spot" "good news! I don't need surgery" "cool, we're looking at fucking Peter Hook's son"
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link
I took it as (initially) tacitly acknowledging that she has not played for two decades, is probably not up to a full show let alone a six-month tour, and is possibly lying about an injury as a defense mechanism, and giving her room to set terms with which she'd be comfortable, at which point he would talk concretely about those as the plan. It then falls apart bcz she doesn't really want to do it, and Corgan can't stay focused on not being a sulky tyrant of "vision"for too long.
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Thursday, 1 March 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link
Peter Hook's kid is a harsh toke... might as well twist the knife all the way and get Wolfgang Van Halen (though to be fair he'd probably say no because his dad would kick him out for moonlighting)
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 1 March 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link