whoa! ^ had no idea about Graham Parker.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 02:15 (six years ago) link
When The National Review published their list of the 50 greatest conservative rock songs, this song was at #30. It's also the song Parker singled out when we asked him in 2012 which of his songs were the most commonly misinterpreted. Said Parker, "They decided it was an anti-abortion song. And of course it's a much more questioning song than that. It's a deeply emotional song that is not making any rules for anyone at all. But people do see it that way. I wrote some blogs on my Web site a few years back. One was deeply anti-religion, and the other one was a message to President Obama, which basically I was telling him to tell the Republicans to go f--k yourself. Because that's what they did to Democrats for eight years under Bush. Get with the program, Obama. Don't be wimp. He still hasn't taken my advice yet. But probably a good thing.Anyway, somebody had a CD table at a gig came up to me and said, 'So you're finished with that conservative kind of thing, are you?' Because they suddenly found out I'm a raving liberal. I'm anti-religion and I'm anti-republican. And I looked at him and said, "Well, yeah, for whatever." I just didn't know what to say really."
Anyway, somebody had a CD table at a gig came up to me and said, 'So you're finished with that conservative kind of thing, are you?' Because they suddenly found out I'm a raving liberal. I'm anti-religion and I'm anti-republican. And I looked at him and said, "Well, yeah, for whatever." I just didn't know what to say really."
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 05:09 (six years ago) link
Argh, sry
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 05:10 (six years ago) link
omg @ "Well, yeah"
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 05:11 (six years ago) link
OMG Richard Jobson!
he's pro-Corbyn and anti-Trump from what i can see in interviews. are we talking a couple of dubious sleeves and album titles with the skids or has he said some other terrible shit?
― Maconie Youth (NickB), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 06:33 (six years ago) link
No, what I was surprised about was that he's the presenter in the Vincent Gallo vid posted above, which you sensibly didn't watch because Vincent Gallo.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link
ahhh okay i missed that!
― Maconie Youth (NickB), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 11:19 (six years ago) link
The day Jobson should have twatted a rude idiot gobshite on live tv and shit oot!
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 11:45 (six years ago) link
Ilx righthunt in effect
― Planck Blather (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 12:03 (six years ago) link
gotta hunt somethin'
― smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 12:10 (six years ago) link
The other thing is the ludicrously low bar of noteworthiness involved
But tbf if I'm not allowed point that out in the rolling rip threads....
― Planck Blather (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 12:27 (six years ago) link
"Hates Trump" isn't a good litmus test for checking if a UK musician isn't conservative, most tories do.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
^ e.g. Louise Mensch being described as a leftist in the US
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link
The current nightmare Austrian nightmare government still get a lot of mileage out of mocking ze schtoopit Amerikans for electing Trump. Anti-Trump means nothing.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link
Read "Nazi" for that second "nightmare".
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:09 (six years ago) link
While the Tories are gutting the NHS + all local authority services, killing disableds and maintaining the worst working poverty since the 30's, Trump is handy for some of these big-game hunters to get some hero points on twitter.
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link
No-one mentioned anything about noteworthiness
Maybe cos it's a nasty and unnecessary thing to do? Just a thought.
― obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:40 (six years ago) link
nobody's mentioned the Strawbs yet? maybe the best of all right-leaning bands
― imago, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
lol, what are the politics of the Strawbs?
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link
Cilla BlackLuluLynsey de Paul
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:58 (six years ago) link
think they're all kind of apolitical except one guy who's a pretty clear tory. but 'grave new world' is such a good album it doesn't matter
― imago, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 13:59 (six years ago) link
also wakeman is an active freemason
― Maconie Youth (NickB), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link
well they did do that ridiculing the trade unions anthem, lol it was amongst my mums collection of cheap ex-jukebox 45's in the 70's.
― calzino, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:17 (six years ago) link
Rush
Inspiration for new health care programme: https://politics.theonion.com/justin-trudeau-unveils-plan-to-meet-healthcare-needs-of-1819579890
Seriously, if they leaned right in the 70s, they definitely haven't in a long time, not by US standards for sure: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2012/6/22/1102317/-Rush-the-Band-on-Rush-Politics-and-Michael-Moore .
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link
with the exception of the main guy and wakeman i got the impression the strawbs werent right wing at all and just as happy to play actual union fundraisers as well as tory party conference
― Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:18 (six years ago) link
actually it was not the main guy (dave cousins) but bassist john ford who wrote and sang "part of the union." he's had an interesting career, cashing in on psych (elmer gantry's velvet opera), prog (strawbs), even punk (the monks -- not those monks -- who had a regrettable semi-hit called "nice legs, shame about the face.") john ford lives in the US now and sometimes performs at a library near me. he is charming.
― Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link
Okay then. Noel Gallagher.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:41 (six years ago) link
the monks -- not those monks -- who had a regrettable semi-hit called "nice legs, shame about the face."
oh jesus christ that song was abominable
― Maconie Youth (NickB), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:48 (six years ago) link
Are they the band that (PiL-era) John Lydon ripped to shreds on Jukebox Jury and it turned out they were surprise guests?
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:50 (six years ago) link
maybe? they did have a song called 'johnny b. rotten'
https://www.discogs.com/Monks-Bad-Habits/master/184960
― Maconie Youth (NickB), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link
Noel Gallagher can't be right wing he was mates with Blair
― smashong pumpgong (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link
The Monks were an English punk band formed in the late 1970s. They were very successful in Canada, where their debut album reached double platinum.
lol waht?
― Maconie Youth (NickB), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:55 (six years ago) link
Alan Freeman: ".. and good luck to the boys.. "Johnny Rotten (as he was, on the show): " Boys? BOYS? They're OLD MEN!!!"
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
ffs Canadians, explain yourselves!
http://nationalpost.com/entertainment/the-monks-british-punks-that-ruled-canada-and-nowhere-else
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link
Matt otm
― Planck Blather (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link
"you can't be too strong" is a lot more complex than "anti abortion" and an amazing song
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link
explaining ourselves would ruin the joke
― F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link
Xpost totally open to being convinced upper missipissippi! I read it as a sort of paternalistic and sentimental way of implying that people who have (and perform) abortions are somehow weak but i am curious about yr gloss
― pre millennial tension (uptown churl), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link
No mention of Moe Tucker?
― Moodles, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link
i should say that i don't necessarily agree w/all the songs sentiments but to me it's pretty clearly a tragedy (to parker) in three parts: the woman, the man (probably the true villain if there is one "go see the boys/They'll laugh when I say, I left it overseas") and the doctor....but it ends with "you decide what's wrong" i don't think he's necessarily trying to put forth an agenda or assign "blame" rather than write a song that's affecting (and pretty brutal)....
I read it as a sort of paternalistic and sentimental way of implying that people who have (and perform) abortions are somehow weak
it's one of those songs i wouldn't necessarily say your interpretation is wrong either!
i guess i read it as ambivalent, though i guess you have to view the entire thing viewing abortion as tragic to some degree, but i don't necessarily see it as advocating a "pro life" political agenda either, to say that i think the song def is interesting and problematic in equal measure but it's a big stretch to put graham parker down in a thread that says he's "right wing" as a result.
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link
Yes well said.
Billy Corgan
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link
Kate Bush
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:56 (six years ago) link
what about that idiot from The Queers
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:56 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i keep seeing this but where does it stem from??
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:02 (six years ago) link
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:57 PM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
well it says "Musicians" whose political sympathies are to the right
― It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:03 (six years ago) link
Kate praised Theresa may and was attached to a right leaning music festival
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
ctrl-f eric clapton
― Maconie Youth (NickB), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link
Bryan Ferry
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:15 (six years ago) link
John Lydon
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link