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Yeah I don’t know either. But I thought this was interesting in light of his more recent weird Trump supporting/Fox regular phase.

https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/the-king-of-spin/Content?oid=1503534

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:59 (six years ago) link

political opportunists can be useful

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

a piano dropped from a great height at the right moment can be useful

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:18 (six years ago) link

I don't know that it's a good or correct call, I just assume the statements he released recently (incl pushing for a statewide ban on AR-15s) are a direct result of his going after this endorsement. as to whether or not he's really markedly worse than Warren's guy, other folks can attest

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

he is demonstrably bad at getting people to vote for him

T'Chadwick (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:36 (six years ago) link

Yeah, ol' Dennis didn't even make it through January in the 2008 primaries, then didn't endorse Obama until 2 months after he won the nomination.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link

lmao fuck

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link

even though his positions seem to be pretty good most of the time afaict i've always felt like he was kind of a nitwit.

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:41 (six years ago) link

I mean I'll always have much love for Dennis for standing up to the utilities and banks as mayor despite the resulting default, but he is well past his sell-by date as a politician.

Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link

a frequent FOX News guest and a praiser of Trump's "American carnage" speech

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

yeah i had a kucinich '04 sticker on my guitar case in high school but denny pack it in brother wyd

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

Republican well-financed and wingnut media supported spin on tax plan now gaining ground....

The tax overhaul that President Trump signed into law now has more supporters than opponents, buoying Republican hopes for this year’s congressional elections.

The growing public support for the law coincides with an eroding Democratic lead when voters are asked which party they would like to see control Congress. And it follows an aggressive effort by Republicans, backed by millions of dollars of advertising from conservative groups, to persuade voters of the law’s benefits

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/business/economy/tax-overhaul-survey.html

Dems and Dem groups quoted in right-wing site/newspaper article. Priorities USA, a top Democratic super PAC, released a memo calling on Democrats to message more consistently against the tax law.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-struggle-with-rising-popularity-of-gop-tax-law/article/2649354

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link

fwiw i am getting an extra $38 per paycheck, which adds up to around an extra $832 a year.

contrast that to last year when i was penalized more than that by the mandate for NOT having insurance.

messaging problems indeed.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:05 (six years ago) link

"oh hey this is a (x) trillion dollar wealth transfer to the top .(x)% and this is a bad thing" (insert correct/exact figures) would have been a fine line to trot out early, often, and consistently, one would think, but it's not clear to me that this was done widely enough

Simon H., Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

A liberal or left group or Schumer or Pelosi or someone needs to create a nice twitter hashtag phrase spelling it out too, plus maybe Tom Steyer and DCCC and others should buy some ads saying that (rather than focusing on impeachment and Russians)

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

gonna leave this here

Last night conservatives were accusing the Parkland students of being Democratic plants, which is hilarious. The students are formulating policy demands, forcefully stating the moral basis of their cause and communicating on social media. The Democrats don't know how to do that https://t.co/KS9BdVgZNK

— mcc (@mcclure111) February 19, 2018

persona non gratin (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

brrapbrrap

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link

Why do I click through to read the threads. Why do I do it.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link

might be lols

j., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:04 (six years ago) link

If you listen closely to the lyrics of the politically charged music of the early 2000s, it's eerily more applicable to the current situation than it ever was to the Bush administration it was written to protest. System of a Down and GreenDay are great examples.

— Alex (@excitable_one) February 18, 2018

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link

No

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link

https://goo.gl/images/59vFzZ

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:31 (six years ago) link

"Look closer" was American Beauty's tag line.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:32 (six years ago) link

I know I personally base my political views off of System of a Down lyrics.

Moodles, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link

Angels may still deserve to die, but we're even less happy about it now?

how's life, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:49 (six years ago) link

Sieg Heil to the President Gasbag

10 print "eatme" 20 goto 10 (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link

No

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:23 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

irl lol

flappy bird, Wednesday, 21 February 2018 06:19 (six years ago) link

heh

We are not afraid. pic.twitter.com/946Vpjccbn

— Kaniela Ing (@KanielaIng) February 20, 2018

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

I linked an interview w/ Ing a while back. I like him.

Simon H., Wednesday, 21 February 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

yeah he seems cool. that's a dumb twitter interaction, but it's a great example of not being afraid to unapologetically pursue almost unbelievably popular policies.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

it's one thing to say you support an unbelievably popular policy and another to force a reckoning on it, though--these last couple shutdowns seem instructive on that front

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link

DCCC steps into TX-7 primary:

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/22/rare-move-national-democrats-come-out-against-laura-moser-primary-cand/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

I've been following Jason Westin, who I like a lot, don't know much about Moser, but I don't relish the party taking sides in primary fights (unless there's really something wrong with Moser I don't know about.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 23 February 2018 05:34 (six years ago) link

Then, referring to a 2014 Washingtonian magazine piece in which Moser wrote that she would rather have a tooth pulled without anesthesia than move to Paris, Texas, Kelly added:"Unfortunately, Laura Moser’s outright disgust for life in Texas disqualifies her as a general election candidate, and would rob voters of their opportunity to flip Texas’ 7th in November.”

I'm sure urban south Texas Democrats would be horrified that someone wouldn't want to live in a rural town on the Oklahoma border.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 23 February 2018 06:24 (six years ago) link

i know he's not perfect, and it's a long shot, but would love it if this guy beat cruz

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfll_mRll1m/

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 24 February 2018 17:49 (six years ago) link

medicare extra, simply: a public option will either be rendered nonthreatening to the existing insurance industry, and will thus be insufficient; or it will require the same political capital to pass as single-payer, while abdicating responsibility to address health inequality

— kill πŸ’€ tim πŸ’€ faust (@crulge) February 22, 2018

Simon H., Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

I love the Beto challenge, and I don't think it's absolutely impossible for him to win, but I worry that people are throwing money away in a state without the votes yet and against an incumbent whose fundraising to date says little about his potential resources from not just direct contributions but also independent expenditures, especially given the support of the Mercers who gave him $11 million to run for President and the other wealthy fans who more than doubled that number.

Moo Vaughn, Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:13 (six years ago) link

I love the Beto challenge, and I don't think it's absolutely impossible for him to win, but I worry that people are throwing money away in a state without the votes yet and against an incumbent whose fundraising to date says little about his potential resources from not just direct contributions but also independent expenditures, especially given the support of the Mercers who gave him $11 million to run for President and the other wealthy fans who more than doubled that number.

― Moo Vaughn

you know what, at this point, fuck it, throw money away. i'm fucking sick of "smart money" politics.

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

a credible statewide race in texas is *essential* for the half dozen flippable congressional seats. if that requires throwing money away i'm down.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

and the credible state race there sure isn't going to be the one for governor

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

As I told my wife, I have spent or donated money on dumber things than a politician who could potentially change the direction of the country for the better.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

as caek understands, turnout for one high profile race will affect the entire ballot. a win isn't always necessary in the high profile race in order to have a net positive effect in power gained.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

Let’s all have a moment of silence for the money some Dem supporters might be throwing away by supporting Beto. After all, Republicans gave his opponent over $20,000,000 to run for President. PS lol @ that money.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 24 February 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link

Honestly, there's a democratic senator from Alabama right now. As far as I'm concerned, extenuating circumstances or not, all bets are off.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 February 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link

there's a democratic senator from Alabama right now who is not conspicuously racist!

ftfy

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

No, he just votes with 'em.

Simon H., Saturday, 24 February 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link

Please do stuff it

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/doug-jones/

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link

He's only got a month's worth of votes to look at, but it's not like he's been a bait-and-switch character. And he also doesn't sexually assault teenage girls, so

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link

Wait, was that link supposed to disprove my point? Cause it does the opposite

Simon H., Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:15 (six years ago) link

Half of those votes were those reopen the government/keep spending votes. I think that's cheap if you call that 'agree with Trump,' since he was mostly sidelined.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 February 2018 23:18 (six years ago) link


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