Number of Good Songs Had By the Smashing Pumkings

At some point I narrowed my necessary Pumpkins down to Rhinocerous, Mayonaise, Soma, and Drown. There are other songs with great riffs in them, but nothing that I listen to on purpose.

I enjoy a much wider swath of PJ's catalog, but don't listen to it as often for some reason?

They have a bunch of dope songs imo, 1979, Ava adore, bullet, they only come out at night, disarm, idk i think they’re generally good if overrated by billy corgan & fans

They have a bunch of dope songs imo, 1979, Ava adore, bullet, they only come out at night, disarm, idk i think they’re generally good if overrated by billy corgan & fans

Ive never liked pearl jam

poll runner please confirm that what i choose is my choice

I voted lol britishes

Is that on Gish or

no gods no pumpkings

mr pumpkins, smash me a pump
make it the pumpkinest that i've ever seen

anyway does anyone else think billy shaving his head was the first sign of his eventual downfall

what are you talking about, its the look that solidified him as the pumpkin king of halloween town

top 10, no particular order

Acting Tips
Seventh Grade
James Dean on Havenhurst
Fifth Grade
Splash Mountain
My Place
Utah
Second Grade
Lindsay
1979

Ladies Love Pearl James

mr pumpkins, smash me a pump
make it the pumpkinest that i've ever seen

anyway does anyone else think billy shaving his head was the first sign of his eventual downfall

damn, didn't realize this was a poll about the Smashing Pumkings, the Kings of Pum.

ts: the smashing pumpkins vs the smashing pumkings vs just smashing pumpkins

everyone saying they only have 2.5 good songs has probably never heard Siva

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzBVvD1vUvM

I have heard Siva. I have downloaded the "Mashed Potatoes" collection. I have experienced Viewphoria, Earphoria and Netphoria. I have heard the 'superior' mono mix of Adore, played on vinyl. I have at one point owned The Future Embrace.

The Passion Shopkins only have 2.5 good songs.

*Vieuphoria

ah well good then. imo the mono version of adore is not superior and billy was just being difficult when he said that

'blank page' tho

but really adore means they have at least 16 good songs, 15 if you want to be thorny about "ava adore"

all the boys think she's a spy
she's got smashy pumpkus eyes

i like anton webern

(xps) ...hence the quotes around superior.

Truth is Pisces Iscariot alone has more than 2.5 good songs.

Anyway, it's cool that you're into the Pumpkins. If you're receptive to further suggestions, may I recommend The Cure?

i like anton webern

Symphony is about as good as it gets. Will never part with Siamese Dream, though.

which is the one that goes "today is the greatest something something"?

http://sickhorses.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/billy-corgan.jpg

title track on the 'greatest something' ep

it's a crappy song

It has a sweet child o mine quality that is bad

works fine on the album, though

smashing pumkids

Today is the greatest crappy song I know

otm

but really adore means they have at least 16 good songs, 15 if you want to be thorny about "ava adore"

― lowercase (eric), Monday, February 19, 2018 7:49 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

now see this is my guy

In some alternative reality where they had done Gish, then finished the demos for Siamese Dream, before Billy Corgan tragically OD'ed, their legend would have slowly grown over the last few decades (like Neutral Milk Hotel or pre-Green Album Weezer), and the answer would be firmly in the double digits.

However, we live in a different strand of the multiverse which also has infowars and juvenile text message exchanges regarding reunion tours. Not to mention all that post-1993 output.

almost every song they released up until 1998 is good don't @ me

I like the drums and a lot of the guitar sound on the first album.

Prefer the gypsy pumkings tbh

Like many of the better alt rock bands of that era, they had a number of good songs which would have been amazing if they were instrumentals.

Like, how many bands were there in the '90s whose weakest link by far was the noise pollution coming from their frontman's facehole?

a lot

But yeah, if you're able to filter out Corgan's voice (which I'm seemingly able to do), basically this:

almost every song they released up until 1998 is good don't @ me

― Simon H., Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:36 AM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes, this.

I vividly remember when they debuted the first single off of Mellon Collie, and he started in with "The world is a vampire", and me thinking "he's can't seriously think that voice sounds good."
I was a pretty huge fan up until that moment, but I got off the bus in a hurry. The singing on the first 2 albums had very little hint of that adenoidal whine.

Pre-Bald Billy Punkins were okay, but the appearance of Nosferfat-u and the rat in a cage was the end of me ever wanting to listen to them voluntarily. Also, they were hot garbage at the Lollapalooza I saw them play. When a zitty Pavement fan thinks that your band can't "bring it" live, the whole enterprise is in trouble.

Counterpoint: they weren't good until he went bald

Mellon Collie is definitely where his voice begins to transition from weird to insufferable but I think it works well on "Bullet"

yeah that's a killer song. first time I heard it was a live broadcast and he really snarled that opening line. made the song. was a bit disappointed when i heard the recorded version but it's still a great song.

One of the many reasons Siamese Dream is their best record is that Butch Vig slathered enough reverb and processing onto his voice to make it tolerable, it's this barely human sounding wispy thing rather than this nasty weedly slimy thing.

you know, despite liking the Pumpkins through the nineties Siamese is the one that never really clicked too well with me. I like 'Soma' off that one.

In Spanish we refer to them as Smashing Pompis.

http://www.spanishdict.com/traductor/pompis

Corgan is pretty pompous ya

Whoa that view is amazing. Do they have a cam for every band member and do this for all pinkpop performances? I can imagine selling dvds of concerts where you can choose the same concert but sticking to a certain view you want to see instead of cutting to different takes be helpful for learning musicians and hardcore fans.

Btw that flawless-blink and you’ll miss it moment qhen Jimmy changes a broken stick for a new one at the start of minute 30 is fucking pro.

nah just a hero that uploaded one of the cam feeds

Chamberlin put out a jazz album recently that's quite good.

there's some great Genesis videos that are just Collins playing drums that are cool

http://images2.onionstatic.com/clickhole/5203/3/16x9/800.jpg

I had no idea that Corgan was MAGA until this thread pulled me into his sad orbit

Wow that Pinkpop version of Hummer ("minute 30") swings and breathes so much more than the album cut.

I've been making records since 1992 and that fuckin text chain between him and Darcy is some of the most loathsome shit I've ever seen from one musician in a band to another. "Your shoulder needs to heal, so maybe 2-7 songs" "well, the doctor says I'll be completely healed" "right, we don't want you to exceed your comfort level. maybe a very tight guest spot" "good news! I don't need surgery" "cool, we're looking at fucking Peter Hook's son"

I took it as (initially) tacitly acknowledging that she has not played for two decades, is probably not up to a full show let alone a six-month tour, and is possibly lying about an injury as a defense mechanism, and giving her room to set terms with which she'd be comfortable, at which point he would talk concretely about those as the plan. It then falls apart bcz she doesn't really want to do it, and Corgan can't stay focused on not being a sulky tyrant of "vision"for too long.

Peter Hook's kid is a harsh toke... might as well twist the knife all the way and get Wolfgang Van Halen (though to be fair he'd probably say no because his dad would kick him out for moonlighting)