not exactly a "rock star" but the recent shirley collins doc has a bit about her day job drudgery after she lost her voice in the late 1970s. lame! also was surprised to learn in a recent podcast that sleater kinney's corin tucker does web development on the side ...
― tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link
I know people who were in Soul Asylum & the Jayhawks who eventually had to return to bar tending for cash flow during lean post-fame yrs
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
Neither of these people were the front men btw
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
yeah, i can only imagine being the bass player in a somewhat successful band is a losing game in the end.
― tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
They were both bass players!
RIP Karl Mueller, the sweetest man in rock.
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link
yeah even in a good year, if you aren't writing songs, you probably only make like a decent middle class wage (but receive all the adulation that a bass player gets)
― tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
OTM
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
i had a conversation with an aging musician recently and he was like "so i hear you can make pretty good money with ... computers?"
― tylerw, Monday, 19 February 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
The guy from Creeper Lagoon started a rental company renting vans to...touring musicians.
He was recently in the local press because of an escapade recovering a stolen van:
https://m.sfgate.com/news/article/Twitter-tale-of-SF-van-theft-gets-elected-12620936.php?t=91b84c280c
― fajita seas, Monday, 19 February 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link
Perhacs returned to dentistry for many years before making another record
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link
Vito Bratta of White Lion, though it's not entirely clear what he does other than having obtained a real estate brokerage license at some point
― Moo Vaughn, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:44 (six years ago) link
depressing thread
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link
how do those mid-level indie bands survive? They're big enough that they tour frequently, hence they probably don't have a full-time job. But they also can't be making much from music.
mostly the service industry. much like how actors have jobs waiting tables (steady/reliable cash, flexible schedule, easy to find another job if you lose it) there are a lot of musicians waiting tables or working as bartenders or running sound at clubs.
― Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link
Was gonna say the thing about Joe Easley what was already posted. Wonder how he's doing now.
J0hn Dug@n from Chisel was a co-worker of mine in a graphics department for a while.
― persona non gratin (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link
I don't think it's depressing, I'd love to read a thread about how musicians are getting by without day jobs/side gigs.
Almost all of the professional musicians I know either have a lot of music-related side hustles (teaching, etc) or special circumstances, like a spouse with a good job.
Heard on a podcast the other day that Corin Tucker still has a job doing web development/media.
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
Probably not as many duplicate character as it's felt like, but you could argue that the 1990s Chapel Hill indie rock scene morphed into the 00's farm-to-table Carolina restaurant scene.
― Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Thursday, 22 February 2018 03:18 (six years ago) link
Mary Weiss of the Shangri-Las went into the field of architecture and "commercial interiors" before coming back with a solo album and shows in 2007
― Josefa, Thursday, 22 February 2018 05:11 (six years ago) link
Laetitia Sadier teaches singing on the side
― kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link
Jason Everman, briefly in Nirvana & Soundgarden, joined the army and has had a pretty interesting life
― nate woolls, Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link
Pavement:
"Gary Young currently markets recording studio products""Currently Mark Ibold is a bartender at "Great Jones Cafe" in New York City."Bob Nastanovich: "After Pavement's split, he served as jockey agent for Greta Kuntzweiler and Joe Johnson"
― President Keyes, Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link
Linda Scott pursued teaching instead of doo wop
― kolakube (Ross), Thursday, 22 February 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link
I was going to mention Bob Nastanovich, he actually does horse racing analysis for a local racetrack here. Occasionally does a little dj gig here and there.
― mh, Thursday, 22 February 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
"Currently Mark Ibold is a bartender at "Great Jones Cafe" in New York City."
Not sure when that was the case or whether still true. They shut down for a few weeks over the summer, seemingly permanently, but then reopened.
― Moo Vaughn, Thursday, 22 February 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
How Shed Seven's Alan Leach built a business controlling pub quizzes across the globe
― nate woolls, Thursday, 28 November 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
"Laetitia Sadier teaches singing on the side"
I read somewhere the she was working as a shiatsu practitioner
― nostormo, Thursday, 28 November 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
that is mentioned upthread
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Thursday, 28 November 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
Joey Shithead from DOA is a city councillor for the Greens now.
― everything, Friday, 29 November 2019 04:23 (four years ago) link
That pub quiz thingy looks pretty spiffy in demonstration videos. Nice one, Shed Seven's Alan Leach!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 29 November 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link
Terry Callier was a computer programmer for years, I think.
― fetter, Friday, 29 November 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
Sammy Hagar made a packet developing and selling off his Cabo Wabo tequila brand.
― that's not my post, Saturday, 30 November 2019 00:41 (four years ago) link
DJ Crystl (of “Warpdrive” fame) is now a personal trainer.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link
Sammy Hagar also owns a few classy bistros in the San Francisco area.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 November 2019 01:58 (four years ago) link
Mat Osman: ‘I went from being a rock star to driving a van'
https://www.huckmag.com/art-and-culture/books-art-and-culture/mat-osman-i-went-from-being-a-rock-star-to-driving-a-van/?fbclid=IwAR0zM5osbkPf965nsSwDW8uo4iYXHKYaIsiCTXKJ1_4DfrjApk5H1E4zVdE
― piscesx, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 00:23 (four years ago) link
Fred Neil, writer of "Everybody's Talkin'", sang "I've been searching for the dolphins in the sea", then set up the Dolphin Research Project and more or less retired from music.
― lana del boy (ledge)
I thought this was a joke, googled his wikipedia page to find out what he’s been up to and lo and behold, it’s true.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link
What he’s been up to? He died of cancer years ago.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:07 (four years ago) link
Sorry for my bad english, I meant “what he had been up to after retiring from music”
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:10 (four years ago) link
Mick Pointer of Marillion returned to his career as a kitchen designer after being fired from the band he formed.
― aphoristical, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:50 (four years ago) link
I wish this article wasn't paywalled because the lede is a masterpiece:
Life on the road as the leader of an indie-rock band wasn’t such a far cry from clocking in as a corporate lawyer for Darren Richard. He was welcomed into Dinsmore & Shohl LLP’s Columbus office as an associate in September 2009 following a career in which he owned a record label, mainly supporting his band, Chicago-based Pinetop Seven, where he was songwriter, instrumentalist and singer.
― sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link
https://web.archive.org/web/20110415193240/https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/stories/2010/10/11/focus3.html
Richard was surprised at the similarities between professions. Both involve problem solving, whether it’s working through the logistics associated with shipping six band mates overseas for a European tour or helping a client negotiate a commercial lease agreement.“Playing music professionally is a collaborative endeavor,” Richard said.A musician works with band mates on song arrangements, recording sessions and shows, as well as with label representatives and promoters to generate album sales and to fill seats at venues.“Similarly, transactional legal work is collaborative,” Richard said.An attorney advocates his client’s position, he said, but ultimately all sides want to close the deal, whether it’s an asset purchase or a recording contract.The similarities end with the lifestyle. Richard said a typical day on the road started early and ended with dinner at 9 p.m. “Now, I’m in the office generally from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m,” he said.Meeting with clients and opposing counsel with a speciality in entertainment law has replaced driving between venues and loading equipment. Writing and reviewing documents takes precedent over penning lyrics and arranging songs.
“Playing music professionally is a collaborative endeavor,” Richard said.
A musician works with band mates on song arrangements, recording sessions and shows, as well as with label representatives and promoters to generate album sales and to fill seats at venues.
“Similarly, transactional legal work is collaborative,” Richard said.
An attorney advocates his client’s position, he said, but ultimately all sides want to close the deal, whether it’s an asset purchase or a recording contract.
The similarities end with the lifestyle. Richard said a typical day on the road started early and ended with dinner at 9 p.m. “Now, I’m in the office generally from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m,” he said.
Meeting with clients and opposing counsel with a speciality in entertainment law has replaced driving between venues and loading equipment. Writing and reviewing documents takes precedent over penning lyrics and arranging songs.
― sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link
Imagine, two different professions that involve “problem solving”... what are the chancesBtw, here’s another lawyer who runs a record label.
― I eat fast foods (morrisp), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link
tbf environmental law is pretty noize
― sing a song of skip spence (unregistered), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
I got lots of friends who had low- and mid-tier music careers who've moved on... some of them at a certain point felt impossibly famous, like they were part of ad campaigns, were working as models for certain designers, etc. etc.
Of all the secondary career moves that these people have taken, "therapist" seems to be the most prevalent. I can think of six musicians who're now working as therapists. All six of them, too, I'm like, "that sounds like a perfect job for you, you'd be a great therapist". All of them are so, so much happier!
― we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 1 May 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
James Corden's drummer is off awaiting the birth of his child, so one of the show's producers is sitting in.
Their name?
Kate Shellenbach of Beastie Boys & Luscious Jackson fame.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 March 2021 04:48 (three years ago) link
Mudhoney's current bassist is also a nurse
https://crosscut.com/culture/2021/10/mosh-pit-er-mudhoney-bassist-being-nurse-during-covid
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 18:39 (two years ago) link
(current = for over two decades)
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link
The shadow of Matt Lukin looms large (Also: before initially clicking on the link I thought it would be about Lukin having an interesting second chapter outside music ala Jason Everman).
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link
PW Long of the old Touch and Go band Mule works doing TV news and documentary work.
― earlnash, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
I really loved PW Long's Reelfoot, more than Mule actually
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:02 (two years ago) link
Never saw that band live, but Mule rocked some serious mullet. I saw Long on some feature watching a news program on Vice and thought it was him, looked it up and it was.
― earlnash, Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:44 (two years ago) link