Cricket

Lewis was always a loser who wasn't interested in knuckling down and improving himself. He never delivered, he was given way too many chances than he deserved for England. Simply he was not good enough. He also pulled out of more England squads than Rangers players pulled out of Scotland squads.

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x-post Herman OTM

Problem with Tremlett is that he is about as threatening as Derek Pringle was.

bring back kabir ali obv

Problem with Tremlett is that he is about as threatening as Derek Pringle was.

Pretty much, yes. It's a shame he didn't combine the looks of a Victorian fast bowler with an aptitude for hurling down fiery snorters with the benefit of arms like gigantic hams.

He does on occasion bowl a very good line and get some decent bounce, but his speed was yawnsome.

i loved derek pringle!! He got wickets and could bat a bit for England. He was a lucky player, always nice to have.

I was thinking the other day about players that weren't that talented but i still adored. Players who did something for England but weren't seen as the top players. like Allan Lamb(went 7 years without a century then did actually become our best player in the early 90s), Mike Brearley who was a terrific captain, my own personal faves Derek Randall and Eddie Hemmings!!!

I adored these guys as much as i did botham and gower.

Anyone else got any personal faves?

even Alec Stewart at the start of his career people said he wasnt a good enough batsmen or keeper, who then promptly shoved all that down the naysayers throats, which is why persevering with Prior might be worth it (he might even be good enough to just bat for england and have foster keep if Prior doesnt improve behind the sticks.)

I used to like Chris Tavare too but I doubt LJ would have approved of his style.

fave bowler = Gladstone Small. Liked Neil Foster too until he betrayed us to go to SA in the apartheid years with Gatting.

Anyone remember Norman Cowans or Bill Athey?

Aussie players I liked Wayne Philips (the one that got out hitting allan lambs boot and gower took the catch, not the guy of the same name that played against us a few years later)

Merv Hughes ruled too.

i remember them all

tavare was a hero and derek randall was obscenely talented

I have Merv's autograph, he was signing them at a Gloucs match prior to the disastrous (from and England POV) '89 Ashes tour.

Pringle was possibly the worst player to play over 20 tests for anybody!

Batting average was 15 from 30 tests (one half century), and bowling average a mere 70 wickets at 35.

By comparison, Jimmy Anderson has a batting average of 13.6 from 37 tests.

It shows how we've moved on from the dark days of the late 80's./early 90's I guess.

great day to be a worcestershire fan

KP injured achilles and out of the ODI series.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/8059984.stm

xp Graeme Hick needs to come out of retirement quick sharp.

Neil Hannon to release cricket themed album, I learn from radio 4 this morning:
http://blog.musicomh.com/musicomh/2009/04/neil-hannons-cricket-pop-with-the-duckworth-lewis-method.html

Not nearly enough songs about cricket

"Meeting Mr Miandad" is good but "Kicking Mr Miandad Up The Arse" would be better.

My friend has been going on about that album at me for ages.

http://content.cricinfo.com/wt202009/content/current/story/406227.html
^Should be turned back at customs at heathrow.

More meaningful than an England vs West Indies ODI, through.

id like to see ODI's totally reduced to one per series and no more than 3 20/20s.

There's far too many ODI's and id love it to die off and 20/20s to not replace it with 7 matches of that instead.

Yes, ODIs have had there time. Awful, awful stuff for the most part. Would be happy if they were wholly replaced with 20/20 matches, which at least cut straight to the chase without all the tedious fannying about that characterises the middle part of most one-day innings.

Disagree. I think ODIs retain some sort of purpose, but they should be drastically reduced. 3-match series at a maximum. In fact, 3-match rubbers for Twenty20s as well.

7 ODI's or 7 20/20's are far too much. as are 5. 2 or 3 20/20's should be the max. But they're money spinners and are more popular with the public than test matches so there's just going to be more and more.

3 ODI's and 3 20/20s in a tour is still too much.

Disagree. Unless you wanna cut that down to 2 of each

1 each would be enough for me

Not sure what purpose ODIs serve in the 20/20 era. Both are shortened "more exciting" forms of the game, 20/20 works better than day night after work and given the amount of tinkering that has been done with ODIs to keep them "interesting" (powerplay nonsense) I'm not sure what the point is.

There hasn't been an ODI double-hundred yet! When that happens, time for byebye maybe. :P

Somerset seem to have unearthed a new legspinner. More importantly, he has an awesome, awesome name: MAX WALLER

although tbf it only works if spoken in an American accent

lol Andrew "Disciplinary issues" Symonds

RIP

He's like the Amy Winehouse of the Cricket world, amirite?

more the oliver reed

Wrestling naked with Ricky Ponting in front of an open fire.

^ evil

...or erotic?

Women In Lord's

drunk in charge of a fishing rod

lol so i'm going to this, let's nail us some dutchmen

as it were

england really wasting that good start

I thought David Gedge bowled really well.

162-5 no sixes and only 13 fours. Hardly any runs off the last 5 overs. Holland very much in this. They look delighted.

It should be enough as it's only Holland but it's not good enough after the start they had. England have no chance of winning the world cup.

Holland look like winning and its raining and are ahead on duckworth-lewis

i was just about to ask how are we doing, cause i can't even understand those scoring lines. as long as we're winning it's fine by me.