Star Wars 8 shit talk

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force awakens was in theaters for six months

hoooyaaargh it's me satan (voodoo chili), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:30 (six years ago) link

It's NOT! Flop movies last a week, blockbuster juggernauts last 5. Ludicrous. xxxxp

Yep, I saw Jaws in my local sinny 10 months after it opened. Runs of more than a year for hits were commonplace.

Yes, rogermexico, when things were geared toward adults with multiple priorities in a week.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link

i note that last jedi does in fact appear to still be in nyc cinemas, if i'm reading your post correctly...

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

like seeing BP for the second time in 3 days

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

ugh xpost

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

VCRs and Blockbuster existed when Jurassic Park was in theaters for 10 months in its first run.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekly&id=jurassicpark.htm

I blame capitalism for this rather than consumer taste. Release-weekend-driven marketing etc.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link

p sure Jurassic Park was released under capitalism

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:39 (six years ago) link

Well yes

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:40 (six years ago) link

not pre-noon for $8, tracer. I mean, i've seen Adam Driver's tits before.

I get it tho, fast food goes through faster than ever.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:58 (six years ago) link

before we conclude it's just that today's audiences have shorter attention spans, i think we'd have to dig into the structure of the agreements between exhibitors, distributors and studios (who makes money when?), the sheer number of films competing for the same blockbuster niche (how many screenings was TLJ getting before Black Panther came out? how many other action-effects spectacles were trying to dethrone Jaws or even JP?) and the particular economics of urban cinemas (i note tlj survives in some of the multi-multi-screen affairs which are rarer in NYC - and at the 24-screen regal i grew up near in suburban ATL). (also i'm not sure it's even properly begun it's "second run" as it were -did it play at cobble hill for example? would not surprise me if after a dry-looking weekend or two it limps along for another month or two on smaller screens.)

obviously i prefer the model of long, slow runs and word-of-mouth building a hit but the way things are structured now everything has to be a huge hit week one since the studio makes less of the money later in the run, so the studios have every incentive to massively hype something and then start massively hyping something else as soon as they think the audience is ready to hear about it. maybe that reflects poorly on the audience's attention span in some collective sense but individually i'm not sure. anyway the theaters obviously are going to swap out screenings as soon as they can even if the film is still selling tickets - better to have a sold-out room than one that's 2/3rds full.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 February 2018 15:59 (six years ago) link

well said, Dr C

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 February 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link

When I was a kid, my mom's test for the quality of a movie was the length of the window between its theatrical and VHS releases. Not very scientific, I suppose, but it had a certain logic: blockbusters stayed in theatres for months, while indie/foreign hits opened slowly across theatres, motivated by word-of-mouth. Meanwhile, teen sex comedies, horror flicks, B-grade action movies and the like, spent little time in theatres because the business model was for them to turn a quick profit in a short theatrical run before going on to make whatever they could in video stores.

Alternately, my mom was probably just trying to get out of taking me to see bad movies.

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Saturday, 17 February 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

yeah the incredibly short turnover to streaming now also has to play a huuuuge part in this. chicken and egg maybe. rogue one, a big big hit movie, came out in december and was on *netflix* in july. not even digital rental, just part of your ten bucks a month subscription (tho i'm sure they paid a pretty penny for it). crazy.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 February 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link

Yeah, we are a long way from E.T. taking like 8 years to come out on VHS (which I remember being a huge deal at the time).

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Saturday, 17 February 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

It also got some theatrical rereleases in that time, right? Like that was back when that kind of thing was a big part of the exhibition game.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

I remember every Disney animated movie rerelease practically being hyped as the last time you'd ever be able to see it.

omar little, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link

It was sort of true in that they staggered the releases very smartly - it was certainly the last time that particular wave of kids would see Bambi *as* kids.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

the perfect balance of timing releases to make the maximum impact on a young audience, while also milking self-imposed limits in order to really sell every damn copy so you don't have to pay for warehouse space

mh, Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:19 (six years ago) link

Yeah, E.T. was treated like the Disney films, in that there were numerous theatrical re-releases in the years before it finally made it to video. The only difference was that, while the Disney films would get re-released every decade or so (I think?), E.T. was put back into theatres every 3 years or thereabouts (I would have first seen it around '87 or '88).

Dangleballs and the Ballerina (cryptosicko), Saturday, 17 February 2018 17:35 (six years ago) link

VHS I think amplified this further: last chance to own! Well, our kid's not the right age now but when they ARE we better have Peter Pan ready!

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

i have a feeling that having a Marvel smash in the atypical month of February isn't helping

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 17 February 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

Pretty sure it's coming out on Blu-ray next month (which seems to be the norm for most films these days)

groovypanda, Monday, 19 February 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

I have not seen the movie yet and have stayed away from this thread since the day it came out. I wanted to see it, but ultimately I'm just completely worn out on Marvel and Star Wars. I just checked the listings, thinking I'd maybe go and check it out today, but it's gone around here so I guess I'll just wait for video. Whoops.

I know nothing about it. I have seen no spoilers and read no reviews. Was there an ilx hivemind consensus on it?

hi, we're the accountin' goats (how's life), Monday, 19 February 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link

You should probably watch this movie if you like things that are good and awesome.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 19 February 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link

^^^

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 19 February 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

people's post-viewing thoughts start here: Star Wars 8 shit talk

El Tomboto, Monday, 19 February 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

You should probably watch this movie if you like things that are good and awesome.

Yeah, then you'll have something to compare them to.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 04:28 (six years ago) link

o zing

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 04:32 (six years ago) link

I thank you.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 05:57 (six years ago) link

Be the first to bring #TheLastJedi home. On Blu-ray and 4K Ultra HD March 27. https://t.co/8J9vlokqLQ pic.twitter.com/fnL1TGLI6o

— Star Wars (@starwars) February 20, 2018

groovypanda, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

further to above, I also remember when movies got re-released, years after the fact. Remember seeing Star Wars in the (non discount) theater in the mid-80s

Dominique, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 18:30 (six years ago) link

That's because the only alternative was viewing it at home off a shitty VHS on a 20" TV so there was still demand for it.

groovypanda, Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

don't forget the Endlessly Revised Lucas Editions

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link

if only we could

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 20 February 2018 19:38 (six years ago) link

No one I’ve read yet seems to have spotted the (MILD TECHNICAL SPOILER) shot that very cleverly references the tracking shot from the party scene in WINGS yet. Thought it was cute.

― piscesx, Friday, December 15, 2017 2:07 AM (two months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Steal from the best! https://t.co/YcNjoF7qYb

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) February 22, 2018

nate woolls, Friday, 23 February 2018 15:47 (six years ago) link

ha excellent.

piscesx, Friday, 23 February 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

I remember reading about that hommage in December...

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 February 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

Possibly in a post by piscesx?

Moodles, Friday, 23 February 2018 17:09 (six years ago) link

I still feel I must boycott this film

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link

maybe! xp

maybe here too

http://screencrush.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi-wings-comparison/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 23 February 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

It's ... ummm ... "out there". Just finished rewatching. All Luke stuff still feels the best to me and so much that's tiresome and sillier with a new viewing ( The Finn/Rose stuff) and practically no tension whatsoever until Luke faces down the bad guys. And it looks really artificial - but in an interesting non-Prequel way - compared to TFA or Rogue One.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 11 March 2018 03:05 (six years ago) link

The Last Jedi’s out today in the states for digital download, blu in two weeks. Of all the special features, my favorite one is kinda hidden, so wanted to call it out. If you buy the movie anywhere online (or the blu) you have access to a music only version of TLJ.

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) March 13, 2018

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link

interesting!!

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

and that music? neneh cherry’s ‘buffalo stance’ on a loop

in conclusion, it is good to peel the sheeps (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:10 (six years ago) link

Did not really like the film, but i did like learning this:

"You can see Laura Dern say 'pew' when she fires the gun, which she could never not do every time she shot it." — Rian Johnson, Star Wars: The Last Jedi Commentary pic.twitter.com/Wkr803BQte

— gabrielle (@daisyridleee) March 13, 2018

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link

i heard they are releasing cut scenes. are there any of our hero Poe getting more people killed? or maybe Rose tasering some other people? this is how we are introduced to a new lead character, a narc forcing people to fight in this war.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link

Spicy!

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link

I just watched this, and I'm sure this has already been observed but:

Poe is Bernie Sanders
Holdo is Hillary Clinton
Kylo Ren is Trump
Snoke is Jeb Bush

and featuring Benecio Del Toro as James Comey

it me, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

wow

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link

That young hotshot flyboy Bernie Sanders

The Spilling of a Sacred Beer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link


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