Democratic (Party) Direction

So it was workable because the house is controlled by... oh right, not the Democrats. So not actually workable at all, but they gave it a shot anyway. I’m sure a prolonged shutdown would have moved Paul Ryan to the left though.

The Dems looked poised to take over the house in 2018, so pushing a senate compromise blocked by the house would have been a step forward. Instead it quite honestly seems as if they've taken a step back, and the US is further from reform than it was before the talks started.

Huh?

Yeah no clue how to parse that

DACA was and is a highly motivating issue among young voters seeking social justice, so the 'opticals' of the budget & immigration reform compromise have probably sapped the enthusiasm of those voters, which might have been amped up by a bloody fistfight between Democrats and Republicans over the issue.

The problem is that the longed-for fistfight would have resulted in a deadlock that would have lasted right until the Democrats capitulated. The shutdown would have been blamed on the Democrats and the capitulation would not have felt much better to the young voters for having come a few days or a week later than it did. One could quibble and say that the Democrats should have held out over the weekend, but that entirely symbolic option would have wasted a huge amount of time and money for no tangible gains.

Once more, the Democrats' greatest weakness was messaging, imo. The actual compromise that was made was a small net gain for socially progressive goals aside from DACA, but the message was not sufficiently strong and unified to project a strong, unified direction for the party.

Nobody wants to get out in front yet. First mover disadvantage etc

That’s why I don’t think there’s much straightforward messaging, if that wasn’t clear.

In front of what?

Nobody is prepared to try and position themselves as the putative leader of the Democratic party, an utterly thankless and mostly impossible job unless you actually win the Presidency, at which point it remains mostly impossible but at least Paul Krugman might notice you. And without a leader or a hierarchy there's no place for coherent, consistent messages and strategies to come from. Each candidate has their own priorities and ways of trying to achieve them.

I thought this was a fair rundown on the issue, although there's not nearly enough gnashing of teeth and angsty spittle for some of us, I'm sure: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/02/senate-democrats-immigration

Is it time to trot out the old Will Rogers joke about the Democrats, yet?

i agree that the party not in the presidency should have a "leader". "but we're not europe, that's not how it works here" - well the way it "works" appears to fuckin suck. maybe the way to do it is to have the primaries.. like.. 2-3 years before the election. with the option somehow to have another primary closer to the election if there's support for that. this way you have a real government in waiting. and presidential elections wouldn't have to take like 18 months because the primaries would have already happened, and everyone would be pretty familiar with the candidates already.

Okay.....

Our Revolution is backing Dennis Kucinich over the Elizabeth Warren-backed former director of the CFPB Richard Cordray. https://t.co/SYff0LW0GN

— Zachary #FBPE (@zatchry) February 20, 2018

not that surprising considering the commitments DK made recently on ending oil and gas drilling in OH

I'd love to know whether globetrotting Elizabeth Kucinich is a foreign agent

earnestly can't tell if that's satire

Yeah I don’t know either. But I thought this was interesting in light of his more recent weird Trump supporting/Fox regular phase.

https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/the-king-of-spin/Content?oid=1503534

political opportunists can be useful

a piano dropped from a great height at the right moment can be useful

I don't know that it's a good or correct call, I just assume the statements he released recently (incl pushing for a statewide ban on AR-15s) are a direct result of his going after this endorsement. as to whether or not he's really markedly worse than Warren's guy, other folks can attest

he is demonstrably bad at getting people to vote for him

Yeah, ol' Dennis didn't even make it through January in the 2008 primaries, then didn't endorse Obama until 2 months after he won the nomination.

lmao fuck

even though his positions seem to be pretty good most of the time afaict i've always felt like he was kind of a nitwit.

I mean I'll always have much love for Dennis for standing up to the utilities and banks as mayor despite the resulting default, but he is well past his sell-by date as a politician.

a frequent FOX News guest and a praiser of Trump's "American carnage" speech

yeah i had a kucinich '04 sticker on my guitar case in high school but denny pack it in brother wyd

Republican well-financed and wingnut media supported spin on tax plan now gaining ground....

The tax overhaul that President Trump signed into law now has more supporters than opponents, buoying Republican hopes for this year’s congressional elections.

The growing public support for the law coincides with an eroding Democratic lead when voters are asked which party they would like to see control Congress. And it follows an aggressive effort by Republicans, backed by millions of dollars of advertising from conservative groups, to persuade voters of the law’s benefits

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/19/business/economy/tax-overhaul-survey.html

Dems and Dem groups quoted in right-wing site/newspaper article. Priorities USA, a top Democratic super PAC, released a memo calling on Democrats to message more consistently against the tax law.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-struggle-with-rising-popularity-of-gop-tax-law/article/2649354

fwiw i am getting an extra $38 per paycheck, which adds up to around an extra $832 a year.

contrast that to last year when i was penalized more than that by the mandate for NOT having insurance.

messaging problems indeed.

"oh hey this is a (x) trillion dollar wealth transfer to the top .(x)% and this is a bad thing" (insert correct/exact figures) would have been a fine line to trot out early, often, and consistently, one would think, but it's not clear to me that this was done widely enough

A liberal or left group or Schumer or Pelosi or someone needs to create a nice twitter hashtag phrase spelling it out too, plus maybe Tom Steyer and DCCC and others should buy some ads saying that (rather than focusing on impeachment and Russians)

gonna leave this here

Last night conservatives were accusing the Parkland students of being Democratic plants, which is hilarious. The students are formulating policy demands, forcefully stating the moral basis of their cause and communicating on social media. The Democrats don't know how to do that https://t.co/KS9BdVgZNK

— mcc (@mcclure111) February 19, 2018

brrapbrrap

Why do I click through to read the threads. Why do I do it.

might be lols

If you listen closely to the lyrics of the politically charged music of the early 2000s, it's eerily more applicable to the current situation than it ever was to the Bush administration it was written to protest. System of a Down and GreenDay are great examples.

— Alex (@excitable_one) February 18, 2018

No

https://goo.gl/images/59vFzZ

"Look closer" was American Beauty's tag line.

I know I personally base my political views off of System of a Down lyrics.

Angels may still deserve to die, but we're even less happy about it now?

Sieg Heil to the President Gasbag

No

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:23 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

irl lol

heh

We are not afraid. pic.twitter.com/946Vpjccbn

— Kaniela Ing (@KanielaIng) February 20, 2018

I linked an interview w/ Ing a while back. I like him.

yeah he seems cool. that's a dumb twitter interaction, but it's a great example of not being afraid to unapologetically pursue almost unbelievably popular policies.

it's one thing to say you support an unbelievably popular policy and another to force a reckoning on it, though--these last couple shutdowns seem instructive on that front

DCCC steps into TX-7 primary:

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/22/rare-move-national-democrats-come-out-against-laura-moser-primary-cand/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

I've been following Jason Westin, who I like a lot, don't know much about Moser, but I don't relish the party taking sides in primary fights (unless there's really something wrong with Moser I don't know about.)

Then, referring to a 2014 Washingtonian magazine piece in which Moser wrote that she would rather have a tooth pulled without anesthesia than move to Paris, Texas, Kelly added:"Unfortunately, Laura Moser’s outright disgust for life in Texas disqualifies her as a general election candidate, and would rob voters of their opportunity to flip Texas’ 7th in November.”

I'm sure urban south Texas Democrats would be horrified that someone wouldn't want to live in a rural town on the Oklahoma border.

i know he's not perfect, and it's a long shot, but would love it if this guy beat cruz

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bfll_mRll1m/

https://slate.com/business/2018/02/cap-floats-a-new-health-care-plan-called-medicare-extra-and-its-good.html