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― jamiesummerz, Thursday, 15 February 2018 10:20 (six years ago) link
Is that the Mighty Mighty Bosstones? Not helped by those clothes, that's for sure. Regardless, pretty sure they would be worse without the horns.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 12:29 (six years ago) link
indeed, horns are the very essence of rock
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― albondigas con gas (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 15 February 2018 12:53 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2crST10hP-s
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 February 2018 13:18 (six years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 16 February 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
✔
― mookieproof, Friday, 16 February 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
Went w Faded at the last minute. Good results tho.
― they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Friday, 16 February 2018 00:34 (six years ago) link
faded was my "haven't-heard-LP-for-5-years" pick - but got hold of the reissue on account of this thread and fuck it's all great
musically honky's ladder might be the purest distillation of the whigs sound? that song ATTACKS - but lyrically maaaaybe a bit too heavy on the michael mann schtick (it's a fine line with Dulli i know (i know i know))
― umsworth (emsworth), Friday, 16 February 2018 00:53 (six years ago) link
Best Afghan Whigs cover would be a fun poll.Kind of partial to Come See About Me.
― campreverb, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:02 (six years ago) link
mr superlove
― mookieproof, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:16 (six years ago) link
Every song got a vote - that's great b/c it's a great album.
― BlackIronPrison, Friday, 16 February 2018 04:42 (six years ago) link
Best Afghan Whigs cover would be a fun poll.― campreverb, Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:02 PM (one hour ago)
― campreverb, Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:02 PM (one hour ago)
Amphetamines & Coffee - Paul K & The Weathermenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2203GPIlhI
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 16 February 2018 05:15 (six years ago) link
their cover of "if there's hell below" slaaaaaaaaays
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 16 February 2018 05:21 (six years ago) link
also "superstition" also, my favorite, "creep"
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 16 February 2018 05:22 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kPRWJah3Rc
this is one i keep coming back to
― ufo, Friday, 16 February 2018 05:39 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmIWkiTZ8qM
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:23 (six years ago) link
its none of those. its either of these...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6ixNnsGYdchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5cY7YduMlU
― jamiesummerz, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link
"Come See About Me" with "Rot" and "My World Is Empty Without You" just behind.
― Andy K, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:38 (six years ago) link
"Dark End of the Street" and "Beware" are up there, too.
― Andy K, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:39 (six years ago) link
Just listened to "Beware" for the first time in 20+ years and it kinda sucks, actually.
― Andy K, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:44 (six years ago) link
Come See About Me is inspired for going so dark/minor. Creep I like because it's more or less contemporary, so there's no veneer of classic soul-music nostalgia/fetish.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link
On my phone so can’t see the YouTube links as embeds, sonit may have been mentioned already but my “best Whigs cover” vote is, and always will be, for their version of “Can’t Get Enough of Your Love”. Particularly the video of them tearing through it at some MTV awards show.
― michaellambert, Friday, 16 February 2018 13:49 (six years ago) link
they covered 'i'll be around' on their (original) last tour -- it is predictably great
― mookieproof, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:03 (six years ago) link
"musically honky's ladder might be the purest distillation of the whigs sound? that song ATTACKS - but lyrically maaaaybe a bit too heavy on the michael mann schtick"WTF is Honky's Ladder about?
― akm, Friday, 16 February 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link
peeping what i got stuck between your eyes?touching the light?drugs?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 16 February 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link
I kind of like their super coked-out cover of 'Nighttime' though objectively it's terrrible
― campreverb, Friday, 16 February 2018 16:06 (six years ago) link
💪 What’s the strongest run of three songs in a row on an album?— BBC Radio 6 Music (@BBC6Music) February 26, 2018
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 27 February 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link
Late vote for Faded.
― pophatte (admrl), Saturday, 20 June 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link
noted
― mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link
best album
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 20 June 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
almost certainly linked this before, but hey
http://lastplanetojakarta.com/articles/gentlemen.html
― mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
the author is a friend of the site
― mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2020 03:04 (three years ago) link
i'm still so mad that no radio ever played the whigs for me in the 90s, they were a band whose name i knew but back then there were so few avenues for hearing stuff if it wasn't on the radio and you didn't want to spend precious $ on a cd.
otoh when i finally heard gentlemen in the mid 2000s i was 23 or 24 and that was probably a better time to hear it.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 20 June 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link
almost certainly linked this before, but heyhttp://lastplanetojakarta.com/articles/gentlemen.html― mookieproof, Friday, June 19, 2020 8:03 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago)
― mookieproof, Friday, June 19, 2020 8:03 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago)
...
By the time one gets through the ballad, “My Curse,” sung achingly by Scrawl’s Jody Stephens
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― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 June 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link
fair, but let's not get too thinkingface
― mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link
i ahall die alone with no legacy whatsoever, but i'll never disavow this
btw 'faded' > 'purple rain'― mookieproof, Wednesday, January 31, 2018 8:12 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link
Critical acumen (or lack of it) is something I think about often. For better or worse, at present, I'm really just relying on, or bringing attention to, the primacy of emotional response and trusting (inhabiting?) that - while being aware that it's a fallible, suspicious register or, at the very least, only part of the process of working out why one likes something.
Anyway, after not using my car for the best part of two months, I've taken to listening to this when I have to drive and I've nearly had to pull over a couple of times. Sure, there are lots of things happening to all of our deep workings and who knows what damage has been done, but Summer's Kiss in particular completely destroys me. It's partly a thing of pure pleasure at the production and the unbridled roar of the guitars but there's something tectonic working down there that I don't really get. The final crescendo is one of those things where I wish I could have been in the studio so I could say don't stop there! ffs, but glad that I can't be so that I'm powerless and can have that exquisite release each time. Then Faded happens and oh fucking hell I'm just a blubbering wreck of a man.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Saturday, 20 June 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link
"Honky's Ladder" has the worst lyrics, but the best guitar. "
"WTF is Honky's Ladder about?"
I think it is the best tune on the LP and definitely one to go on the Whigs best songs. I take the lyrics being someone shaking down someone with a pistol to the face requesting money for the drugs they have provided, perhaps to a close friend or relative.
I admit that the lyrics don't read well, but they do fit the music perfect. It is like when you first saw the lyrics to "Gimme Shelter" wrote out - you might go, 'is that it?' I'd kinda compare the tunes in that they both have that menace and forboding to them, albeit the Whigs song is very less known. The track does seem like a tune ready made for a 90s crime sound track.
― earlnash, Saturday, 20 June 2020 10:59 (three years ago) link
chinaski i used to cry A LOT (like a lot a lot a lot) while listening to this album -- while walking, while driving, while seated at home. it wasn't nostalgia and it couldn't have always been pms, so i think this album has some magical quality that zings right to the feelings and electrifies them. bulletproof was my personal ultimate catalyst for uncontrollable weeping.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 20 June 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link
i'll never forget seeing their first reunion show at the bowery ballroom and realizing they were going to do "bulletproof" -> "summer's kiss," i think i burst into tears
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 June 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link
lol @ how many times i've brought up that show in this thread
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 June 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
But it really can't be said enough how life-changingly great this band is live.
"Black Love" benefits I think from following "Gentlemen," which I think as far as it goes was sort of an accidental crossover. That is, timing and critical acclaim put the band on the radar for people peak-grunge/alt, but ultimately the group just had too much going on (or were too heavy or intense or whatever) for the average alt day tripper. Kind of like the folks who picked up "Laid" by James based on the single. That's one of my favorite albums of all time, but so much of it is so spare and ghostly and subdued that anyone (at least in America) that went for the single might not have dug the rest. So back to "Black Love," I feel that album slipped under the radar in a way. Either it was not the album casual fans expected after "Gentlemen," or it was too much the album the band should have made after "Gentlemen," if that makes any sense. All I know is that at the time there were countless copies of "Black Love," like "Laid," clogging up the used CD bins.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 June 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link
"honky's ladder" was a weird choice of lead single and i think dulli's said that it was the label's decision that he disagreed with and that they had a lot of other trouble with their label at the time. "my enemy" always seemed like the most obvious single to me but it wasn't one
― ufo, Saturday, 20 June 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
i feel like if "going to town" didn't do it for them nothing would
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 20 June 2020 14:59 (three years ago) link
yeah I agree with that
I NEED to see these duys live again at some point. Their coheadlining set with BTS was amazing but TOO SHORT.
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 20 June 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link
Is their an interview or article where Dulli talks about his connection to Los Angeles? I know he lived there before/during the Afghan Whigs early days.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link
He owns or owns a couple of bars there.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 June 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
He worked at Tower Records on Sunset Blvd in Hollywood I think around 1984-1985, before the formation of the Whigs. It's a block and a half from the Whisky and about a 20 minute walk to the corner of Fountain & Fairfax. I remember he talked about writing most of Big Top Halloween out there, but I was wondering if there was a longer piece where he talks more in depth about his life and times living in Hollywood during the glam-rock era.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 20 June 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
i recall a twilight singers show shortly after elliott smith died during which he went on at *excruciating* length about how they knew each other in la and where they hung out, etc etc as the band vamped endlessly
― mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link
good album
― the burrito that defined a generation, Sunday, 21 June 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link