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Didn't want to harsh on the 'sploder but Sean Grammo is so OTM. It's such a great concept but done so poorly.

SA, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

god song exploder is the most overrated thing in the world. so superficial - no dig-deep or fascination, just banal gloss (unless the interviewee is naturally forthcoming). it's the crummy version of an excellent thing

― sean gramophone, Tuesday, February 13, 2018 10:42 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is true for some of them, but it's dependent on the guest imo. Like the Courtney Barnett one- it's mostly about how the song was written, what inspired it, which is interesting enough, but the shit I want is Phil Elverum explaining how he had a song in G and he broke up the notes of all the chords and voiced them individually and how he got that ocean-scraping percussion sound. like, total nerd shit. the Grimes one is equally good for this reason. but I still wish they were like an hour long.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:50 (six years ago) link

Yeah, the ones that I've taken a chance on that flubbed were all like "and I wanted to write this song about a relationship that blah blah blah" whereas Grimes talks about pitching a dentist drill sample down to match her 808 and then hard-panning it. And it wouldn't even have to be weirdo innovative stuff like Grimes or the Microphones necessarily(which btw I listened to and enjoyed yesterday - thanks). Just more nitty gritty like that.

how's life, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:08 (six years ago) link

Yeah, “A Very Fatal Murder” is great, and you can hear the whole thing in like 35 mins

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

xpost

but why not talk more about HOW or WHY that decision - about the other alternatives s/he considered or what they like about what they chose?

even the Grimes one or whatever feel like a surface-level eHow article about making a song

i mean ehow is useful when you want to fix a dishwasher but

sean gramophone, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link

I thought about that but it would void my protection plan, so now I'm stuck washing by hand for two weeks until they can get a guy out here with the part.

Sometimes they do have stuff in there like demos, outtakes, other directions the song could have taken. I agree with flappy that the brevity is probably a limiting factor.

how's life, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

Yeah the CRJ one was nice for getting to hear the stages of development, but it still felt a little on the flimsy side

Simon H., Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

i mean yeah i would like song exploder to be an hourlong deep dive too but i'm a huge dork. i think it's designed to be digestible to more casual fans and the format works really well for that.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link

That's it. I've freakin' had it. I'm gonna start some indie synth band, write and record a hit song, and when that flimsy wimp asks me to do a Song Exploder episode for him, it's gonna be five hours long and then people will know the magic that podcast is capable of.

SA, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 20:26 (six years ago) link

^ gets it

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 20:47 (six years ago) link

Lol fuck yeah

flappy bird, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 20:57 (six years ago) link

Tried to listen to the Celebration Rock ep w/ Dan Bejar on 80's Dylan and couldn't make out a word he was saying wtf

Entrepreneurial Jism Unshackler (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

Appropriate for 80s Dylan

President Keyes, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link

Any good podcasts that interview smaller-time musicians beyond the NPR-related shows, getting into talking about making music?

While I can't really recommend The Hustle (the host loves everything and isn't particularly good at drawing out reticent guests) - I've rarely/never seen or heard any of the guests interviewed anywhere else. Danielle Dax, Alannah Myles, Dave Gregory of XTC, Fee Waybill, Voice Of The Beehive, Stu Cook of CCR, etc.

https://thehustle.podbean.com

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 16 February 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link

Any good podcasts that interview smaller-time musicians beyond the NPR-related shows, getting into talking about making music?

This is what I do, but fair warning, I only interview jazz musicians.

https://burningambulance.com/tag/podcast/

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 16 February 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link

I think The Books' edition of Song Exploder is the most Song Exploder-y, Song Exploder edition.

MaresNest, Friday, 16 February 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

If you really want to get upset about a music podcast that really tries to break things down, I recommend Switched on Pop. It's been my hate-listen for the past week or so. I'm not ususally one to hate-listen or hate-read things, but there's something weirdly compelling about having Katy Perry Big-Birded to me by two guys who sound just like the Wild Kratts.

how's life, Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:41 (six years ago) link

i would listen to a wild kratts podcast

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

Deep self interest but my friend Michael has a podcast called This Is Your Mixtape, where a guest goes over five songs in their life. Anyway, I was the subject of the most recent episode:

https://www.megaphonic.fm/mixtape/6

But check out the others, it's a fun idea!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:48 (six years ago) link

I love Wild Kratts. I don't like these guys whose radio voices/attitudes seem totally copped from them.

xp

how's life, Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:50 (six years ago) link

yes same

basically i am lobbying for a wild kratts podcast, let's make this happen

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:53 (six years ago) link

that sounds good ned and i will check it out. keep in mind these exist!

desert island discs (podcast archives go back to the 1940s!)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/5qhJd1byxhTBYbSCFmw580y/desert-island-discs-podcasts

inheritance tracks
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02pc9my/episodes/downloads (suzi quatro did one!)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 17 February 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link

so like... i'm reading flaubert's salammbo:

https://www.acast.com/elireads

fans of cannibalism, human sacrifice and detailed descriptions of clothing and foodstuffs please drop in

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 21 February 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link

Kevin Conroy of Gilmore Guys has a newish show called Good Christian Fun that i really love
It’s basically for reformed Christians & they talk Christian tv and movies & music with ppl who grew up in churches etc

I spent a lot of Sundays in church and like, 10 summers at youth missions so it’s kind of a secret treat to hear ppl talk about this stuff in a fun way

(and randomly burst into song)

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 February 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link

Kevin Conroy? ugh. I meant Kevin PORTER
i hate my brain

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 February 2018 23:58 (six years ago) link

A friend turned me on to Cocaine & Rhinestones last weekend and I've done three episodes now. They're looooong, and the host/narrator is kind of awkward, but if you want deeeeeeep dives into facets of the history of 20th century country music, this seems like the one to hit up.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Tyler Mahan Coe, the host/narrator, is apparently David Allan Coe's kid it turns out.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:13 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Just binged 3 of these in a row and had been wondering about the "I've been hearing these stories my whole life" disclaimer. Holy shit.

how's life, Sunday, 4 March 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link

  • lament insurmountable size of podcast queue
  • browse for some reason
  • somehow end up with 30 more episodes
  • lament insurmountable size of podcast queue
  • repeat forever

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 09:34 (six years ago) link

yep

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 09:48 (six years ago) link

* skip everything in favour of another episode of hello from the magic tavern

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 09:50 (six years ago) link

  • ever more insurmountable size of podcast queue

reverse-periscoping (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 09:56 (six years ago) link

Tracer, I've been enjoying that Desert Island Discs archive for a couple years now. Such a great resource.

carrotless, turnip-pocketed (fionnland), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 11:22 (six years ago) link

yes it's incredible. there are actually more in the archive and there is a project underway to get them up :)

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 12:08 (six years ago) link

Anyone else listening to the Crooked Media podcasts (Pod Save America, Keep It, etc)? Surprised to not see them mentioned here.

Darin, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link

I gave up on them very quickly

President Keyes, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:29 (six years ago) link

Why?

Darin, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:33 (six years ago) link

too many other political podcasts that I like more
they feel a bit too close to cable tv commentary

President Keyes, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link

Fair enough. Curious as to what other political podcasts you prefer.

Darin, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:34 (six years ago) link

Majority Report/ Michael Brooks Show/ Intercepted/ Professional Left/ Champagne Sharks

I listen to too many obv. including stuff like Deep State Radio/ Rational Security/ Trump Inc./ Chapo even some of the Vox podcasts

President Keyes, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:41 (six years ago) link

Champagne Sharks is great, I need to catch up.

Simon H., Tuesday, 6 March 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

Thanks!

Darin, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link

A friend turned me on to Cocaine & Rhinestones last weekend and I've done three episodes now. They're looooong, and the host/narrator is kind of awkward, but if you want deeeeeeep dives into facets of the history of 20th century country music, this seems like the one to hit up.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, January 31, 2018 10:04 PM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah wanna keep going w/ this but can't get with this bizarre speak-and-spell inflection. Guy sounds like if Ira Glass produced To Catch A Predator.

Rhine Jive Click Bait (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:17 (six years ago) link

It took me a good 20 minutes to get used to it. I stopped noticing and/or he gets a little less awkward (can't tell which) as it goes

Simon H., Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:19 (six years ago) link

My podcast queue is like a stack of New Yorkers anything older than a year gets deleted and if it tops 30 unlistened episodes I unsubscribe.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link

I tried Scroobius Pip's podcast the other day on a week-long commute -mild speech impediment to one side - he just talks and talks over his guests and frames the same frigging question six times before he shuts up, it's unendurable.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link

it's a testament to the power of consistency that he can produce such an offputting show and pull in the big numbers

i feel like anybody who can put up one show a week on something they really care about, even if they're terrible at speaking/podcasting/etc, will start to do well after 150 episodes or so... is how i break it down to an extent

It took me a good 20 minutes to get used to it. I stopped noticing and/or he gets a little less awkward (can't tell which) as it goes

― Simon H., Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:19 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this happened to me with jon ronson on butterfly effect

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 6 March 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

Little bit of self-promotion: just posted an episode talking about UFOs, ufologists who become media figures, Posadism and how space comrades can help us bring about communist utopia. It’s fin.

https://soundcloud.com/givingthemic/close-encounters-of-the-posadist-kind-with-douglas-lain-and-comrade-communicator

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:46 (six years ago) link

re: the awkwardness of TMC on Cocaine & Rhinestones. I think he does get less awkward by the end of S1, and also you get more used to it. He still sounds like the dude who will dominate any conversation at a table of several people, but not in a particularly offputting way. He's put in the work, and there's a lot to say.

This being a total one-man operations scares me, though. He's either going to have to get some assistance/assistants or he's going to burn himself out.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 March 2018 03:30 (six years ago) link

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/podcast-dept/cocaine-and-rhinestones-an-addictive-sparkling-podcast-about-country-music

"Coe, who is currently working on the second season of the show, was recently invited to use the archives in the Country Music Hall of Fame, where, he wrote in an e-mail, there “are at least 500 unwritten books in that data and probably closer to 1,000. . . . Half or more of those books will not be written.”"

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 8 March 2018 03:46 (six years ago) link

what the shit

i'm sure it'd look lovely on matt from chapo

War, Famine, Pestilence, Death, Umami (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 10:42 (six years ago) link


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