Cecil Taylor S+D

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Wow, that's excellent - hey, from what I've seen, Vimeo is the place people put their documentaries when they'd rather monetize through rental; there's a huge selection. That might be the place for you to put it up

I'm not sure but I may be the only person on earth who has listened to all of 2 Ts in one go (yesterday). Towards the end I felt like I was on some sort of mystical sweat lodge mushroom trip

Brakhage, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link

Damn, there useta be a cool half-hour doc made for French TV documenting the late 1966 "Student Studies" quartet, but it's apparently taken down from YT in the past few months.

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:51 (six years ago) link

I should've worded that differently. I'll send you a WeTransfer link once ripped. If it's not available on YT or Vimeo that's probably the filmmaker's decision and I'm not gonna ignore that.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:53 (six years ago) link

Aiet - thanks again

Brakhage, Wednesday, 14 February 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

Rest In Peace

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 26 March 2018 03:58 (six years ago) link

Happy belated birthday CT

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 26 March 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link

No official confirmation yet but word's going around Cecil's passed

Brakhage, Friday, 6 April 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link

Aw man. I was lucky to see him play up close maybe twelve years ago, an experience that will stay with me forever.

True Fire.

DACA Flocka Flame (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link

He passed earlier this evening, at home in Fort Greene.

I saw him play five times:

• in trio with Dominic Duval on bass and Jay Rosen on drums at the Village Vanguard in 1997
• leading a two-dozen-strong orchestra at the Knitting Factory on Leonard Street in 2002
• at Avery Fisher Hall, also in 2002 (half solo, half trio with Duval and Rosen again)
• in trio with Henry Grimes on bass and Pheeroan akLaff on drums at the Iridium in 2006
• at the Whitney Museum in 2016 with Okkyung Lee on cello, Harri Sjöström on sax, Jackson Krall on drums, and Tony Oxley on electronics

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link

RIP

just last night picked up a copy of Winged Serpent (Sliding Quadrants) - I will blast it today

(re above release i had no idea he'd crossed paths with Tomasz Stanko)

saw him play in a trio with tony oxley and bill dixon in london maybe 10-15 years ago, it was a weird show but CT's solo section was outstanding

umsworth (emsworth), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:46 (six years ago) link

I love the album that Oxley/Dixon trio recorded at the Victoriaville Festival in Canada - I believe it was their debut performance, and it was much more Bill's show than Cecil's. The music was super spacious and drifting. It's the only time I've ever heard Taylor surrender to someone else's aesthetic so completely.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 6 April 2018 01:51 (six years ago) link

only time i saw cecil taylor was in london at the jazz cafe in about 1991. can't for the life of me remember who he played with, though i guess oxley is a fairly likely candidate

i'm surprised to see your screwface at the door (NickB), Friday, 6 April 2018 06:21 (six years ago) link

a giant.

Lots of Cecil coming down on the WFMU Give the Drummer Radio stream right now.

Three Word Username, Friday, 6 April 2018 13:06 (six years ago) link

Never got to see him play. But man, what a genius.

emil.y, Friday, 6 April 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link

RIP - talk about a guy who blazed an entirely new trail.

tylerw, Friday, 6 April 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link

The following panel discussion occurred 54 years ago today. Cecil was part of a "Jazz Weekend" at Bennington College (this was four years before Bill Dixon's arrival there, and seven or eight years prior to Dixon's establishing of the college's Black Music Division). Panelists include Cecil, arranger Hall Overton, and Bennington composition teacher Lou Calabro. Amiri Baraka (LeRoi Jones) is in the audience, as is Bernard Malamud.

https://bit.ly/2IyGtBu

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 April 2018 14:54 (six years ago) link

His playing was so visceral and thrilling, hearing Cecil pounding out a thundering cluster of notes is one of the greatest things in the world.

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 6 April 2018 15:53 (six years ago) link

man cecil

may your free spirit remain in free jazz

F# A# (∞), Friday, 6 April 2018 16:07 (six years ago) link

A couple of 10 second excerpts of his music on the BBC radio obit doesn't seem adequate, playing the entire side 1 of Air Above Mountains would have been a more fitting for such a star.

calzino, Friday, 6 April 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link

*tribute

calzino, Friday, 6 April 2018 20:52 (six years ago) link

I think about the first thing I heard about him was an NME article from the start of teh 80s that had a bit talking about I think John Coltrane having picked up a new piano that needed to be worn in or something. From what I remember it was located in his bedroom and he asked Cecil to play it, then sat on the bed dodging piano keys as they flew past him because Cecil played so hard.

I was also knocked out by hearing that he was a chess hustler since being able to think strategically that far ahead etc seems phenomenal.

I like his mid 60s stuff. Need to hear a lot more of his recordings though.

Stevolende, Saturday, 7 April 2018 06:22 (six years ago) link

I was blasting out some of his 50's stuff that I hadn't listened to much previously this morning. Jazz Advance is an absolute classic, and with a young Steve Lacy in the band as well.

calzino, Saturday, 7 April 2018 10:14 (six years ago) link

I think about the first thing I heard about him was an NME article from the start of teh 80s that had a bit talking about I think John Coltrane having picked up a new piano that needed to be worn in or something. From what I remember it was located in his bedroom and he asked Cecil to play it, then sat on the bed dodging piano keys as they flew past him because Cecil played so hard.

This was Sunny Murray, actually; I was just reading this story in Valerie Wilmer's As Serious as Your Life, which is an amazing book and highly recommended.

I was also knocked out by hearing that he was a chess hustler since being able to think strategically that far ahead etc seems phenomenal.

It was Anthony Braxton who was a chess hustler for many years in New York. Cecil had some real crap jobs in the early 60s; he was a dishwasher in jazz clubs that wouldn't hire him to play.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 7 April 2018 13:22 (six years ago) link

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2018/04/eagle-god-turned-trickster-gremlin/

Although not a posthumous tribute, I liked this a lot.

"By temperament, Taylor had chosen ‘Out’ before Ayler, Coltrane or even Coleman, playing ‘free’ years before this became the term for the play, his example encouraging each of them to take similar steps."

calzino, Saturday, 7 April 2018 16:15 (six years ago) link

I wrote something for The Wire.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

Fenway organ, 1st inning: I assume that all @MLB organists are paying tribute to #CecilTaylor this weekend. I went with the intro to "Rick Kick Shaw" from his 1956 debut album "Jazz Advance," recorded right here in Boston.

— Josh Kantor (@jtkantor) April 7, 2018

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 April 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

Saw him on the festival circuit in 2002, lotsa heavies in the crowd soaking in the 88 tuned drums.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 7 April 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

Nice piece Phil

I love this recording, one of his first (THE first?) collaboration with Sunny Murray...all three of these musicians dead within the last few months...too bad about the amateurish visuals

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jNJYe2tuUu4

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 7 April 2018 20:14 (six years ago) link

yes, nice

I've been playing my boxset of 2 Ts for a Lovely T. what an amazing recording

Dan S, Sunday, 8 April 2018 00:20 (six years ago) link

WMSE had a nice 3 hour show celebrating Taylor. The 4/08/18 show:

https://www.wmse.org/archives/?time=64800

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 10 April 2018 13:05 (six years ago) link

In Cecil Taylor's honor, @EMPACnews is *giving away* copies of 'Solo | Duo | Poetry,' 2008 DVD featuring Cecil performing with the great Pauline Oliveros. DVD also includes 78-minute focus on Taylor's poetry. You pay only 0 shipping. https://t.co/cMREGoGDNO

— Steve Smith (@nightafternight) April 10, 2018

j., Wednesday, 11 April 2018 00:16 (six years ago) link

$10 for, should say

j., Wednesday, 11 April 2018 00:16 (six years ago) link

I love Cecil as an artist and as a human being. And miss his presence already. This world just gets sadder and duller all the time. But what i mostly came to say is My God, he is expensive to collect! All the really important, "must have" stuff by him is just insanely expensive. I don't know, i guess i'll just have to keep downloading them instead.

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 05:07 (six years ago) link

I kee[ thinking that artist's deaths lead to reissue campaigns but not sure how true that is. Would be good if it was though.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 07:39 (six years ago) link

All the really important, "must have" stuff by him is just insanely expensive.

Some of his career highlights (for me) are still pretty cheap and easy to find: Unit Structures, Conquistador!, the aforementioned trio with Bill Dixon and Tony Oxley on Victo. But yeah, his vast output on FMP is either not-exactly-cheap (around $30), crazy overpriced ($150 for The Hearth, a trio with Evan Parker and Tristan Honsinger), or just impossible to find.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link

I have really got into the unrelenting brilliance of his Feel Trio album with Oxley and Parker. Fuck, it is amazing.

calzino, Friday, 20 April 2018 12:30 (five years ago) link

I can't put my finger on what it is I like about Parker's contribution to this awesome recording, but I love any band with him in it.

calzino, Friday, 20 April 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The writer knew Cecil a bit so there are some good, reflective quotes from Taylor's past relationships with various people in the artistic Black community he was part of, and fought with.

http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/05/16/the-world-of-cecil-taylor/

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 May 2018 11:32 (five years ago) link

Yeah, that's a beautiful piece.

It's funny, Taylor has a habit of viciously (and sometimes hilariously) shit-talking people he'd been friends and/or collaborators with for years, or sometimes decades, but no one's ever said, "Then why did you continue to work with them?" or "Then why did you make four albums and go on tour with that musician who couldn't grasp your music?"

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:30 (five years ago) link

Shatz also did a rather wonderful piece on Mal Waldron in The Nation last year.

calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link

My favorite nickname he had for a fellow pianist he wasn't too fond of (this was when I was assisting on a documentary about him) was "Herbulous Hunchback"

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:46 (five years ago) link

lol!

calzino, Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:48 (five years ago) link

If I ever fully transcribe our "interview"/"conversation" for The Wire, I feel like I should subdivide it into categories:

- Cecil shit-talks his former collaborators (Bill Dixon and Ronald Shannon Jackson were the two who got hit hardest)
- Cecil shit-talks other musicians (Miles Davis was the clear winner here, though Keith Jarrett and the Rolling Stones came up too)
- Cecil praises other musicians, all of whom are dead (Billie Holiday, Horace Silver, Max Roach, Jimmy Lyons)

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 17 May 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I just picked up the double of Cecil’s concert with Mary Lou Williams. I’d never heard of it, but now I’m reading it’s regarded as a disaster... but how bad could it be?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:30 (five years ago) link

One weird thing about that record is the slap-back echo effect on Cecil's channel. Weirdly, for the most part, it works.

I love the record, and it's fascinating to hear each player edge towards each other's approach, however minimally or briefly. For some reason, though, whoever set the thing up did so not realizing that Cecil Taylor is gonna do what Cecil Taylor does. That was apparently a source of tension for Williams and (especially) her rhythm section.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 13 June 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/05/16/the-world-of-cecil-taylor/

As we ate, a procession of admirers and hangers-on stopped by our table to pay their respects. One was a tall West Indian man in a homemade white turban who called himself The Captain, and seemed to know Taylor well. I asked him what sort of work he did. “I do a variety of things,” he replied.


nice Shatz piece written shortly after his death. Blasting out Conquistador whilst reading it felt good!

calzino, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 11:10 (five years ago) link

Yeah, definitely one of the better pieces on Cecil. And my friend/collaborator trumpeter Arthur Brooks is in the photo from the Amsterdam Concertgebouw (far left, back to camera). Brooks and Frank Wright (far right, seated at the piano) were chosen by Cecil to be the co-lead soloists on an orchestra piece, and Brooks rehearsed the band. George Lewis and (I think) Anthony Braxton were also part of this group.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link


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