pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

I was just thinking about the Bobby Digital record the other day because it's one of maybe a dozen CDs that I never got around to ripping to MP3. I probably only listened to it once or twice and don't really remember anything bad, just disappointing. I was also let down by the Love Movement and Moment of Truth but I've at least listened to them in the last 20 years.

it's hilarious that we're all just debating p4k's rap choices, like there's any way they'd be able to win on that front no matter what they did

yeah otm, but uh, bobby digital REALLY shouldnt be on that list. you could maybe defend everything else or at least shrug them off.

A creative vocabulary saves some grace, but the "pussys," "bitches" and "motherfuckers" far outweigh the "tighter than prescription bottles" and "Mr. Potatohead Ore Ida deep fried krinkle cuts."

Like even if they put Goodie Mob and M.O.P. in there, there'd still be post-ethan dudes going "wow, no Fat Pat or Mac Dre, east coast bias much?!

Dr. Octagon is a weird omission esp cuz it's a big part of the indie-rock friendly rap canon and a way better "eccentric" rap album pick than Bobby Digital

1996, duder

also don't forget that Keith was bent because he thought rza was biting his schitck

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/o487/thekrinker/Robbie%20Analog_zpsso5jewfe.png

i just didn't think that anyone even still listened to the bobby digital album. it really was a bummer at the time. such a promising cover.

m.o.p. would have been a fine choice. or redman. redman and styles of beyond. played those a ton. not even the best redman album but still lots of fun.

I just wanna post this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtzNc2hyJqM

I can't think of a Jay Z or Nas song with rapping as good as Redman's "Da Goodness," don't @ me

Talking to Tyshawn Sorey about Redman for The Wire was one of the most fun things I did as a journalist last year.

imo the Def Squard record is the best 98 album that has Redman on it

Def Squad record is so good

i think everyone really did Red's career dirrty

Malpractice sucked but dude shouldn't have disappeared from the earth after he started fucking with dance music and couldn't make commercial hits. I keep saying Madlib or someone should produce a rappy-rap album for him like Freddie Gibb's Pinata, and he could be playing Bonnaroo second stage too

The list is pretty...whatever, but no "Ocean Songs"? Lame

posted my top 40 rap albums from 98 in here

i just didn't think that anyone even still listened to the bobby digital album.

i do!

When I think of best hip hop records of 1998, Aceyalone's A Book of Human Language is always one that comes up.

Also, my hands-down most played 12" of that year was the unofficial single that Ras Kass released, 'Understandable Smooth.' It made me hopeful for his second album, but of course, there's no way in hell it would have seen an official release with that sample.

Rassassination had some great songs.

I gave it the benefit of the doubt at the time, but, in retrospect, it was pretty not good.

overall yeah for sure.

i like/liked the bob digi album
Docs da Name 2000 is a real important album for me; da goodness is def one of my secret fave trax

reading this list it struck me that i've continually ignored spoon for now 20 years. here's to another 20

Now that Whiney mentioned Eels, a bid sad that Electro-shock Blues isn't on the list.

i loved electro-shock blues back in the day. now i find it hard to listen to ANY eels, and i'm not sure why. they seem like one of those bands whose standing has dropped a lot in the past 20 years (i'm sure there are at least 5 threads dedicated to this subject)

maybe it's because as soon as i read eels my head goes "and i like...*whistling sound*...birds" and i'm just like noooo nooo

They were my first favorite band. They are obviously also-rans with shitty humor, but Electro-shock Blues is a legitimately great indie rock record in my book.

reading this list it struck me that i've continually ignored spoon for now 20 years. here's to another 20

― marcos, Tuesday, February 13, 2018 5:00 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

High five

They've been spotty since E-SB but the better halves of Blinking Lights and Daisies of the Galaxy are about on par with it.

https://pitchfork.com/news/olympics-2018-chloe-kim-wins-gold-medal-while-listening-to-migos-lady-gaga/

E makes far too many records and quality dipped years ago now. ESB, and most of Blinking Lights are definitely the highlights for me.

so yes, this list needed ESB, Ocean Songs, Six. i'd also mention current 93 - soft black stars. hell among the yearlings? england made me...
Midwestern Songs of the Americas, Philophobia, Frame & Canvas aaaaand MECHANICAL ANIMALS!

i'd probably remove the Refused album which for me has aged really badly.
remove Boy With The Arab Strap which disappointed just about EVERYONE on release.
i'd also remove Spoon, it feels like a few things are just in there as filler because the artists did far better work later and became pitchfork darlings.

overall pretty decent list, but then hard not to find 50 good records in just about any year?

I think they've always liked that Spoon album fwiw

katatonia and the gathering put out my two favorite albums of 1998. they should have a separate list for metal albums.

i unfairly blame Refused for so much bad music made by others that i will always have a grudge against that album. also, i'd rather listen to when forever comes crashing which came out the same year.

That Belle & Sebastian was a disappointment at the time, compared to the level of Sinister. But in retrospect it’s still really good and one of their best - especially the title track.

A lot of downer melancholy albums on that list.

xp it's my favorite of theirs by far

By the by, really, but 1998 - Gorguts and maybe Death aside - was a weirdly shit year for metal.

my fave amon amarth album came out in 1998. i played that a lot. and i loved sin/pecado by moonspell. there was good stuff. absu, naglfar, other stuff. i played my arms, your hearse a lot too but i don't really play it anymore.

I can't vouch for that entire Cannibal Corpse album but "Sentenced To Burn" is one of their best songs.

The self-titled System Of A Down is pretty solid imo.

https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/7978-the-hush

seems just like yesterday

i'd also remove Spoon, it feels like a few things are just in there as filler because the artists did far better work later and became pitchfork darlings.

― jamiesummerz, Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:09 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think they've always liked that Spoon album fwiw

― Evan, Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:33 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

People who prefer post-Sneaks Spoon are weird to me.

it's all good. up until the last couple maybe

I assumed they thought the Spoon album was pretty good when placing it in their original top 100 of the decade.

"What HQ Trivia Host Scott Rogowsky Is Listening to Right Now"

I just came here to post the same thing:
https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/what-hq-trivia-host-scott-rogowsky-is-listening-to-right-now/
All native marketing is disorienting to an extent but this really made me doubt my own reality for some reason.

Man, just found out that P4k published their spicy takedown of a 19-year-old Sublime record three days after what would have been Bradley's 50th birthday :(

that's messed up. didnt even see that review, bout to check it. i already hate it.

yeah, that record has some problems, but it's great!

Don't get how they can tear down Sublime, and yet give multiple BNAs to cheap knock off Vampire Weekend.

could give a fuck about Sublime but that review was a disgrace