The Return Of My Bloody Valentine

ooh, both Fleeting Joys and meaulnes' mate's band get pretty close! I think the latter is marginally winning this so far

Swirlies - Pancake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls3imCyjuyE

oh of cooooourse! and the best thing about swirlies was that they were also completely their own thing, while also being able to fairly closely replicate the aural magic of shields

Our Destiny, from the Purple Rain reissue has some woozy proto MBV guitars.

I Was A Lover by TV on The Radio.

Almost sounds like MBV samples are thrown in there.

cosign swirlies, "jeremy parker" for me to be more precise :)

The second album is where they really spread their own wings

Belong - Same Places (slow version)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAXxreB9AhI

Not really a total sound-a-like, but definitely heavily inspired by Soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dhVcLac45Y

Fleeting Joys, meaulnes' mate...

Lilys - In the Presence of Nothing (which I seem to still have tagged as In the Presence of MBV)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7mUBb394JE

First couple Ringo Deathstarr albums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3xATi5s9-A

Velocity Girl - My Forgotten Favorite

Dälek - Ever Somber comes pretty close except for the drums obv.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R1Z9i7fxIgk

I'm also voting Cornelius: Salon Music - Galaxie Express (69 mix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA_JaLyZFJo

Ladytron - "Sugar" was very MBV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95lvxzyptj8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II9aWvcP66w

I was going to suggest this one by Ulirka Spacek (where the guitar kicks in at 1:27): https://youtu.be/X_1VM36PaaA
...but having listened to the tracks linked to above, some of those are *much* more similar to MBV. So I'll just link to it anyway because I like it.

Lilys - In The Presence of Nothing for sure. To me it is unfairly written off for sounding so similar because there is some excellent craftsmanship that went into that record.

But if the question is who blatantly copied them the most precisely that Ringo Deathstarr track in particular certainly wins the contest.

Swirlies had a very unique and American sound within the spectrum of artists-that-employed-bendy-guitar-and-krautrock-beats post MBV. Lots of slacker indie and lo-fi and punk added to the mix with them. Then They Spent Their Wild Youthful Days In The Glittering World Of The Salons went much further away and it remains one of the most unique and timeless records of the time/scene imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTolIDDtfzk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMDWuj_fsU0

Lock thread.

Re-open thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkCtkT4HRGQ

Lock thread again.

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come on LBI, that's totally different than "only shallow". for example, there are 16 snare hits at the beginning instead of 8

Holy shit, I had no idea that a) the guy from Secret Machines was in School of Seven Bells or that b) he died of cancer in 2013. That's pretty sad.

there are 16 snare hits at the beginning instead of 8

i mean instead of 4!

dammit

True, true KM :)

I was going to post something from Bailter Space (who were of course more or less contemporaneous):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9mlWfgxHfg

Oh god I love that song so much

Met too. Such an underrated band.

Xp. That Ulrika Spacek track is great and sounds like MBV without the occasionally unnerving hoover sound. I really like the powerful, doomy guitar.

i'm so out of the loop. has anyone received the represses of isn't anything or loveless? do they sound any different or is kevin shields, shockingly, an audio madman who obsesses over tiny details that the rest of us can't hear? also, did anyone get the bonus alternative secret free version of isn't anything that came with the pre-orders?

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— TheOfficialMBV (@TheOfficialMBV) February 19, 2018

one person i know says it's the definitive version

it's been a month since my order was apparently shipped. how mangled do you suppose it's going to be when it finally shows up?

supposedly they sound so good because of how warped each record is

how mangled do you suppose it's going to be when it finally shows up?

i have to admit i'm still a bit bummed about the state of my m b v record, which arrived with bad damage to the spine, a big dent on the front cover, and multiple skipping scratches

yeah same thing happened with my m b v so i'm not sure why i trusted them again this time

Every pressing of Loveless I've ever found sounds all wobbly and off-center, I hope they finally have it fixed now

I think that's just the tremolo bar guitar.

i think "lsd and the search for god" are the most blatant mbv clone band i've ever heard

Got the new versions a few days ago (along with bonus test pressing!). Haven't listened to Isn't Anything Yet, but Loveless is perfect.

I expected it to sound dramatically different because of everything that was said about the analog mastering process, but it's Loveless as it always was. You have to crank it up loud as fuck and bathe in perfection.

they arrived today safe and sound, completely unmangled!

A new hour long interview on NPR with Kevin on the remastering? Don't mind if I do.

https://www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2018/03/06/590948939/my-bloody-valentines-kevin-shields-gets-deep-into-loveless?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nprmusic&utm_term=music&utm_content=20180306

i believe KS is technically apt when it comes to limitations and workflow within the digital/analogue domains, but fuck me, his balls must have went grey listening to the same eleven songs for the umpteenth time! for the sake of preserving their transients and going about things completely analogue for the sake of it... nobody else can honestly tell the difference. if you say you can, you're either absolutely kidding yourself, or neil young.

Hearing is very much a mental process as much as a physical process — partly, you learn to listen in different ways. For example, even people with quite bad hearing have got a certain threshold — there's a certain volume where they can hear things quite well. When I'm working in the studio or mastering, I still tend to be the one who picks up on problems first or pick up on distortions. That's not necessarily a component of good hearing from a technical perspective. It's just the way I hear sound.

i am not an audiologist but this seems uh problematic to me

It would be funny if every time he remastered something it got quieter and quieter as his hearing got worse and worse. Until it's some abstract tape-delay parallel masterpiece.

(Obv. not funny ha-ha). But yeah, his take on hearing seems, well, wrong. But there is definitely something dyadic going on in hearing loss that I don't think we quite understand. By any account Neil Young should be deaf, but he's not (afaik). Pete Townshend had tinnitus and played with an acoustic, protected, with headphones (right?) until he didn't need them anymore. Roger Miller in Mission Of Burma still plays with headphones, I think standing *behind* his amp, or at least did (as did/does Robert Fripp). By any standard many drummers should be hard of hearing, since they can't even turn down their loud instruments, but it doesn't work that way.

he just wants to sell his album for the 3rd time to fans. not with me, boy.

'Loveless' is probably my favorite album. It became my favorite album from the first Sire CD release. My favorite recording ever is "Soon" from 'Glider'. It's my favorite specifically because of how it sounds. I had it on 12" and then the Creation single CD (and the Sire CD). I heard the 'Loveless' remasters on a decent sound-system. I enjoy it on headphones when I'm in the mood to pay specific attention to the sound, but I like speakers for the physical force of it. All that said, it always sounds the same to me. I cannot discern any difference between the versions. I can discern poorly encoded mp3's, but full .wav/apple lossless/vinyl (except for the crackles) always sounds exactly the same.

I'm glad Shields has his hobby, but I wish he'd spend more time on new songs and sounds.

By any standard many drummers should be hard of hearing, since they can't even turn down their loud instruments, but it doesn't work that way.

Plenty of old rock drummers play in sound-baffling "cages" with the rest of the band piped gently in through headphones.

I'm glad Shields has his hobby, but I wish he'd spend more time on new songs and sounds.

Kinda my thought. I have the Sire CD, I have the Creation Glider EP...I'm good.

He's semi-promised a new album this year at least. I want to see them live for the first time - never saw The Fall and don't want to repeat the error :(

Obv you were too young back in 88-92, but how come you didn't see them in 2008?