is New York City dead?

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Xpost that is the other thing for us. K cannot drive so moving to any other city equals in her mind, perhaps correctly, isolation and loss of independence.

― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, February 8, 2018 4:37 AM (four days ago)

Jon I don't know how long you've been with your partner or where she's lived but you used to be in Seattle! you can walk almost anywhere, or catch a bus to where you can walk to the other bits. the tram has opened up a few neighbourhoods but will take another decade and drivers aging out of the population (so that funding can go back to transit) to be as transformative as it should be already.

I doubt any city in the world could beat NYC for film.

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 12 February 2018 08:14 (six years ago) link

We’ve been together 14 years, so no, not stretching back to my Seattle days. But you make a good point. Manageable size, good transit, car not needed, pre-built friend pool due to comics scene. Is it much cheaper than nyc/sf these days though?

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:28 (six years ago) link

Rent has been climbing like wild for years but the trend may be finally leveling off. Unlike San Francisco there are actually new apartment buildings being built, though we still haven’t got the political will to start bulldozing single family homes.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Thursday, 15 February 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

Doesn’t Seattle have more working cranes on high rise construction sites than any city in the us?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link

*Flintstones voice* eh, it's a living

Number None, Thursday, 15 February 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link

When a man is tired of London etc.

Moo Vaughn, Monday, 26 February 2018 20:09 (six years ago) link

four months pass...

A little bit of apocalypse that doesn't involve the subway, for once

http://gothamist.com/2018/07/19/exploded_steam_pipe_asbestos.php

Exhibit C: there is LITERALLY a man on a @CitiBikeNYC commuting to work out of a plume of steam in this video https://t.co/eCLCizPdXC

— Rebecca (@RebeccaEgler) July 19, 2018

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

All,

Further update:

Please advise your employees to steer clear of the area on 5th Avenue between 19th St and 22nd St. due to environmental concerns related to the material that was dispersed from the explosion. Office of Emergency Management is currently involved in the cleanup and environmental testing to ensure there is no additional danger.

Thank you,

Anthony

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 July 2018 23:59 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.villagespoke.com/2019/05/03/a-city-for-the-rich-built-poorly-the-construction-of-hudson-yards/

http://i0.wp.com/www.villagespoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/4.29.19_HYardsBroken7.jpg

You get the distinct sense that you’re walking through a computer rendering rather than a real place. Aesthetic is prioritized over function everywhere you go. It’s easy to get the feeling that the faceplates of brand-new signs popping off their fixtures were simply pixel-off details unnoticeable in a 100:1 scale virtual world.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:24 (four years ago) link

Considering the scope, ambition, and execution of this project as a whole, pointing out an "overextended saw cut" in the ground seems ridiculous

calstars, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:32 (four years ago) link

https://thebaffler.com/latest/fuck-the-vessel-wagner

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link

From some points on the Jersey side, the view of the Empire State Building is totally blocked by Hudson Yards

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

In so many ways New York is a great city that has embodied what is best about America, particularly multiculturalism and innovation. (Never perfectly, of course). It’s where many generations of my family grew up, and most of them are buried out in Green-Wood Cemetery. However, the city also kind of sucks and is dumb now.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

There is so much luxury housing development, all over the place.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

despite President deBlasio's promises

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

I feel like the point of the above articles is, if you're going to do seamless luxury, do it right (i.e. the beautifully alien Oculus). Which as a point is.. okay I guess. But maybe we could forget about seamless luxury altogether?

Anecdotally I walked past the Barclays Center a couple of months ago and was astonished at how jank-ass it looked

Lil' Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

i can't imagine going anywhere near hudson yards, but fuck the oculus

mookieproof, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

i even wrote an article once about how stupid the oculus was

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

It's oppressive even to walk from the subway to the PATH there

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

I hate the way that thing is wedged in there, w evidently zero regard for any of the space around it

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link

i kind of like the barclays center though

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

xps

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

and yeah, like, "a bird in flight" makes no sense as a concept for a building hemmed in by skyscrapers. calatrava's buildings look nice on a waterfront. but this looks like a trapped bird, or else some kind of unidentifiable carcass that has been picked apart by vultures... which maybe is a good visual metaphor for wall street

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

spent some time in hudson yards a few weeks ago. It is not good. It's suffocating and claustrophobic and mostly ugly. People were confused about how to get to things. Pro tip though, I walked into the rear entrance of The Shed and found my way to very clean public bathrooms which as any New Yorker knows, is very valuable knowledge.

dan selzer, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

parts of NYC might not be so impressive these days, but tbh 99% of the rest of the country is the same fucking corner with a gas station + fast food restaurant + abandoned strip mall, on every other intersection, every highway ramp exit, everywhere, the fucking worst and least aesthetic combination of buildings, monotonous and interchangeable. so even a shitty set of stairs that hurts people seems impressive and potentially groundbreaking

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

A while ago, I was offered a job as Calatrava's personal assistant. I recall the pay as being $32k. I remember telling all my architect friends and they were a little horrified about how little he was offering considering... He had a very nice dog though.

Yerac, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

treesh otm

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link

That’s interesting. I used to write about architecture as a freelancer, and the website I wrote for had a run-in with calatrava. I forget the details, but he doesn’t like criticism apparently

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link

many xps to calstars: if you think pointing out poor paving is petty, check that full article. the point is that the structure just opened and already the shoddy, non-union construction is showing serious wear and poor consideration. hudson yards was supposed to be the hermetic future and it's suffering near instantaneous mcmansion breakdown.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

also xps to dan: https://www.charmin.com/en-us/about-us/sitorsquat

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

I think it’s annoying that it’s the final stop on the high line, because the high line is actually really cool. I love the newish whitney too

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

yeah the whitney is great

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

here's the problem with the highline in a nutshell:
http://gothamist.com/attachments/arts_jen/agora-43.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

Sometimes it’s like that but not always. It feels legitimately like public space though to me—not like I’m loitering in a corporate plaza

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

i'm prickly about public land issues and park space in particular and i'm glad that highline exists but c'est ne pas une parc

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

it's more like an amenity

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

i like the new whitney too, though i haven't had any luck catching anything good there.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link

There is just too many people everywhere, all the time. I thought once about going to the Queens Night Market once when it opened but then saw that it's always a mob.

Yerac, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

it's easy for the crowding in the city to color everything and leave you jaded and cranky... though i bitch about it when it's in full swing, going to smorgasburg at the start of the season during a light rainstorm two weeks ago was great fun! not so much in mid july.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

Give the night market another shot xp. It's not always a mob, especially if you wait for the excitement to die down after opening. Going early is always good too -- I think they start at 6pm. I say this as a person who hates crowds -- the ones at the night market are pretty manageable by NYC standards.

You can also try going in the fall as it's sort of under the radar that it closes and then reopens in fall for a few more weeks.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

That said, I fucking HATE most of manhattan. I no longer work there and love not working there.

I just visited the Hudson Yards area because a relative won an affordable apartment lottery there -- the whole thing was a dystopian nightmare.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

Smorgasburg is comically crowded in the summer

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

Even when it’s 195 degrees people are queuing for hot food

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

people pollution, incidentally, iswhy i prize greenwood cemetery so much. you can go out there in the heart of a metropolis on a June weekend at 75 degrees and walk for an hour and see maybe fifteen (live) people... that's changing too though!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

i jog around prospect park and, at one point, had made the smorg grounds an irregular part of my route. there was a point last year where you literally could not jog within a football field length of the grounds; ridiculously overrun with drunk kids taking photos of their arepas

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 May 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

Prospect park has some semi-quiet spots

Trϵϵship, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

I used to have a couple of spaced out spots all over manhattan that I would hang out because I had to frequently kill an hour or two during the day during work and all those places have been completely overrun by "where did all these people come from?"

I gave up on smorgasburg pretty early on in its history. I couldn't get over spending $15 to eat streetfood while standing in a parking lot.

Yerac, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link


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