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I am retired now. My answer will no doubt ruin the curve.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

I contribute the max 18,500 every year and currently have $140K total. At 36 with a good twenty years to go I think I’m sitting pretty. Thank you Thrift Savings Plan. And I guess thank you Ohio for having such a low cost-of-living.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

i have $1000 saved dollars and i am so fucked forever.

ian, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:35 (six years ago) link

You have saved dollars?! So jealous right now.

P.S. I am powerfucked times infinity.

Bittersweet Meh (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

I do have a change jar at home that's like a quarter full atm, so it isn't technically true to say I have NO savings.

Bittersweet Meh (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link

$0 but the only person in my family who's ever "retired" was my grandmother who worked for the post office and even then she worked 30 hours a week as a Wal-Mart greeter until she died, so the concept is fundamentally foreign to me.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link

the $1000 i have saved is because i tried to save some money while i was working a bit extra, and then i gave it to my wife for safekeeping.
i 100% live paycheck to paycheck, and my 2 days/week regular work doesn't cover my rent.

ian, Friday, 9 February 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

I think my mom is the first person in my family to retire and stay retired (so far, it's only been a couple of years). Thoroughly expect to still be working as a brittle nonagenarian.

Bittersweet Meh (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

We were pretty rich when my daughter was born. Her college account balance is twice (twice!) my IRA balance. She's 10.

Some folks say it should be the other way round, because you can borrow for college but you can't borrow for retirement. Welp, too late now.

I may have to ask my daughter if I can crash in her dorm for a while.

I will finish what I (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 February 2018 19:58 (six years ago) link

a big tent and a one-way ticket to Uzbekistan should do me

i'd love to visit bukhara one day

I've been to Uzbekistan, some cool stuff, madrasas, Samarkand, Bukhara, Tashkent, etc., but it's pretty hardcore there right now. Great bread, great plov!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:01 (six years ago) link

'Zero student loan debt' is second only to 'life' in the list of greatest gifts you can give to a child.

Bittersweet Meh (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:02 (six years ago) link

ie I have no savings largely thanks to student loan debt. Thanks, college (and, tbf, my complete absence of financial acumen).

Bittersweet Meh (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link

i live paycheck to paycheck. i currently have about $800 credit card debt, that's the extent of my worldly debts. i have no savings, and while i do have a decent enough pension in my current job - where I've only been 18 months - i am extremely unlikely to stay here long-term as i don't want to live where i am longer than perhaps a year or two more.

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link

oh i have student debt in scotland of about 1500 pounds but a: they don't collect it from me since i left the country, b: it's interest are,. c: they take it directly out of my paycheck when I'm in scotland in very reasonable (i.e. small) installments so i basically don't even think about it as being a thing that exists

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link

yeah, my retirement savings pretty much == my student loan debt. i'm hoping that the savings appreciate at a faster rate than the debt, but who knows.

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link

I may have to ask my daughter if I can crash in her dorm for a while.

― I will finish what I (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, February 9, 2018 1:58 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

throw keggers to fund your retirement!

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

it's probably been addressed in the uncool conservative beliefs thread, but the student loan debt problem is related to a higher education bubble, which could be helped in the future by reducing the number of people going into debt to go to college, and reducing the number of people going to college, period. Many of them get little professional or financial benefit from higher education. If they are going to be Wal-Mart greeters or Uber drivers or Amazon warehouse workers, or even many computer programmers, the only real role of college is to prolong childhood/youth, postpone the meaningless drudgery of adulthood, and to give a basic overview of social justice issues.

sarahell, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:13 (six years ago) link

I have a lot of money saved. This is due to me being cheap as shit, saving a majority of every paycheck since I was 16 and never having student loans or any serious health issues yet.

Yerac, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:16 (six years ago) link

also living somewhere cheap i suppose?

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

I took out a few grand in student loans to finish my master's thesis without having to have a day job, (after failing at that for 3 1/2 years) then I paid $60 a month for 10 years on autopay, and my credit is now "excellent"

sarahell, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link

Yeah. The student loan debt crisis is very real and it needs to be addressed asap.

By a strange coincidence that there is ~$1.4 trillion in outstanding student debt, and the recent tax bill is estimated to increase the national debt by ~$1.4 trillion, while it does nothing whatsoever to address student loan debt but pours most of its largesse into the pockets of the ultra-wealthy. We are so fucked.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link

making notes for my ILXor plundering spree 25 years from now

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:27 (six years ago) link

xpost Hard emphasis on the 'we'.

Nonsense Ape Debones His Foot (Old Lunch), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link

xpost. No, I lived in NYC for 13 years. Now I kind of live everywhere.

Yerac, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link

you entered the matrix

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

must have a hell of a job!

khat person (jim in vancouver), Friday, 9 February 2018 20:42 (six years ago) link

Even though I have a lot of money saved in cash and I paid for my last apartment in Astoria in cash, I still won't take taxis/ubers, haven't had cable since 2003, my MotoG has been cracked for over a year, I am using a second hand laptop, I cut and dye my own hair...but I do drink expensive bottles of wine regularly. My mom was a waitress and dad military. I am just super good with saving money, making investments and being flexible with jobs.

Yerac, Friday, 9 February 2018 20:49 (six years ago) link

less than it was at the beginning of the past two weeks

||||||||, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link

xpost -- Can't claim to be on Yerac's level but the importance of some kind of consistent frugality is key. Let the indulgences be just that, and sparingly rather than constants. (Obvious points but.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:09 (six years ago) link

voted 0

nxd, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:10 (six years ago) link

the student loan debt problem is related to a higher education bubble, which could be helped in the future by reducing the number of people going into debt to go to college, and reducing the number of people going to college, period. Many of them get little professional or financial benefit from higher education.

I'm super wary of this line of thinking. People with degrees still earn way more over a lifetime than people without, and that's not reversing itself any time soon.

As someone without a degree, there's a security to having that piece of paper that I don't have. If my business fails, I can go make $11/hr at an Amazon warehouse until I die of heat exhaustion.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 9 February 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

i have a considerable amount in my 401k thanks to starting to contribute when i was 22, a nice employer match and profit-sharing contribution, and some cool portfolio management stuff we get (~20% return in the last year even with the recent dip). but i'm 30 years from needing that money so it's pretty uh conceptual at this time.

call all destroyer, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link

i have none which is dumb of me as I've been financially stable for a couple years and still haven't gotten around to setting something up

ciderpress, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link

college is for networking

brimstead, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:35 (six years ago) link

I kind of think everyone should be able to start a 401k at birth

I really wonder about US social security and will it be there or not when I retire

or shall I say "when I can no longer work"

Dean of the University (Latham Green), Friday, 9 February 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

I kind of think everyone should be able to start a 401k at birth

Hell yes they should.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link

are y'all who are putting 10%+ of income into a 401(k)/Roth/etc including employer match in that number?

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

I feel insanely privileged and jerkish for even asking that, I'm here thinking "am I way behind?!" when half my peers here are measuring savings in sandwiches :/

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 21:49 (six years ago) link

hahahah employer with a retirement plan??? riiigggght

ian, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link

carey, can i get a loan?

ian, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:13 (six years ago) link

I'm going to lose some shit at some point from leaving this place or them finally restructuring the corporate crap long before I retire but I shit you not, I have some 401(k) matching _and_ a pension plan because I work for a dinosaur

the pension plan's going to disappear any moment

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:14 (six years ago) link

I don't loan money, ever. But I will invest with or just buy someone the essential thing they need. I am always happy to buy drinks.

Yerac, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link

always essential to buy drinks

mh, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:18 (six years ago) link

I guess if we want to consider a record collection as savings, then I'm doing better.

ian, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link

I had to finally get rid of almost all hardcopy music besides what fit into two boxes two years go. Moving really makes you put what you own and keep in perspective. I had all my stuff in a 8x10 storage unit for a year and when I opened the boxes in another country it was amazing what I had forgotten about and what I was annoyed I hadn't already sold.

Yerac, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

are y'all who are putting 10%+ of income into a 401(k)/Roth/etc including employer match in that number?

i put in 9% on my own and our match is 7% i think. i should bump to 10% this year prob.

is your company’s pension plan still open? like if i got hired there today would i get in w/some unvested status? when it goes away (and it will) you’ll still end up with a chunk to put in an IRA or something.

call all destroyer, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

The only time I put money into 401ks is for the employer match. I feel like I can do better with the money outside of the preselected mutual funds the 401k holds. I like flexibility.

Yerac, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

I had to finally get rid of almost all hardcopy music besides what fit into two boxes two years go. Moving really makes you put what you own and keep in perspective.

It does -- glad I grew up moving (like Yerac, military dad) as it's gotten me used to the idea, and to welcome both moves if needed and reducing what I have as necessary. Of the many books and CDs I've sold or given away or donated over time, I can't say I miss a single one. (Honestly the only exception would be The Alienist, and I've only thought about that recently given the TV version.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link

yerac will you manage my money for me

mookieproof, Friday, 9 February 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link

About 15 years ago I worked for a company that contributed 3% of my salary to a 401K as a profit-sharing arrangement.

In my current job, I heard they matched 3%, and I was like, "cool, just like my old place." Then I realized they meant 3% of my contribution, which is a decidedly different amount.

I will finish what I (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 9 February 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link

everything crashes or inflates, and I'm penniless

...as would be everyone whose net worth could be written without at least a generous handful of zeroes. A general financial catastrophe can't be planned around. You just have to gut it out with whatever resources you can salvage from the fire. But it's always a good idea to have some tangible assets that aren't just 'paper' or digits on a bank's balance sheet, because those are the first to immolate.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:02 (six years ago) link

There was a time when I thought I'd be able to get away with just selling my CD collection if I was skint.

My plan B is "Well, I can always move to Lincolnshire".

djh, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

My story is similar to officer sonny bonds', but I had it in the bank where it all got eaten by rent during long-term unemployment

Moo Vaughn, Wednesday, 28 February 2018 19:47 (six years ago) link


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