Well yeah no chicks
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:42 (six years ago) link
(except the honorary dude chicks)
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 21:43 (six years ago) link
(p much all ilxor chicks likely to post itt honorary imo)
(otm)
― infinity (∞), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 22:01 (six years ago) link
Sup fellas *puts ballsack up on table*
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:02 (five years ago) link
please dont do that we all have to use that space
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:04 (five years ago) link
I think this is a good idea for a thread
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:05 (five years ago) link
I want to say something positive about women here that might be stereotyping, but positively. I work for a company that is all women except me—it’s very small and in the art world—and I have never really felt excluded or like I didn’t belongg. If the situation was reversed and it was all men with one woman, I’m not sure this would be the case.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:10 (five years ago) link
i dont know if
look
i dont think
how can i say
it may not have been the original wish or concept but ainui the gender-specific threads are now not rly for that type of posi thinking bridgebuilding but kinda are now for protected subtweeting style stuff and planning attacks on the other boards
whither ask chaki indeed you will say
this thread tho its mostly about power washers
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:13 (five years ago) link
got the handle fixed on that oven door but somewhere during the operation- likeliest during removal which i botched before discovering the knack- the hinges loosened and its now slow to heat up and not rly heating evenly its a problem
one solution seems to call for washers obv ill try that
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:17 (five years ago) link
Fwiw I work in a majority woman office of a woman owned firm and coincidentally or not it is by far the best work environment I’ve ever been in.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:19 (five years ago) link
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:04 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I just thought we fellas could all benefit from some rec time - got a few footballs, some basketballs, dodge balls etc
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:21 (five years ago) link
I’m drinking a japanese whiskey tonight. It’s called iwai.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:23 (five years ago) link
thats nice of you but that table has to serve for various food prep and laying out of different wrenches and card games and shit and your balls, through no fault of yours it will be acknowledged, will in the normal course of being passed around with your friends accumulate grime and dirt
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:23 (five years ago) link
Super good. Crazy smooth. I’m also reading tom wolfe’s book about architecture—from bauhaud to our house—which represents pretty much the opposite of my opinion on architecture but I think the tension is good. I have to start thinking abt this stuff again bc I got a new side gig writing about architecture.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:24 (five years ago) link
self xp
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:25 (five years ago) link
So my habit of spreading my thoughts across mumtiple posts instead of trying to fit them all into one...is that a form of manspreading?
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:26 (five years ago) link
i. iirc Japanese make whisky
2. smooth yeah but usually too caramel too early for my taste but ymmv and enjoy
3. grats on interesting sidejob
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:26 (five years ago) link
Thanks! I’m excited. I worked for this editor before, who I’m also friends with, and he lets me be creative and opinionated so I’m excited
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link
A manager began a meeting today by outlining and displaying on the projection wall her planning and timekeeping app, which had all these colors and bubbles and slots and icons. She did this to explain how she would be taking our design proposals for the new website from its original file and organizing it into this new compartment.
Yes, the original file was actually just a Google document on which the four of us had, in tandem chain-poetry style, typed out our single-spaced ideas using only Times New Roman 12pt font. It was about 16-20 pages long. We did it this way because Slack had too many bells and whistles.
So I 100% totally get why she was taking all of that information and putting it into a more viable format. What I didn't appreciate was her taking 25 goddamm minutes to EXPLAIN this whole situation to us after she had already made her point in the first 30 seconds and I was just exhausted and hungry after that.
― pplains, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:27 (five years ago) link
manspreading - i am not a doctor and i have observed the phenomenon so this is not informed and it is not a denial but ive often wondered if bollocks are a contributory factor and if so would it matter
its bad tho its easily as bad as handbags taking up seats
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:28 (five years ago) link
I don’t taste too much caramel here. It’s much less sweet than a bourbon, for instance, but not quite as smoky as a scotch.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:28 (five years ago) link
scotch doesnt in itself demand smokiness rly
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:29 (five years ago) link
No? I thought the peat made it smoky
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:30 (five years ago) link
I’m a pretty consistent manspreader, mainly because I’ve got this organ between my legs and such
― calstars, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:35 (five years ago) link
peat itself obv v common but while it as an input is hardly ever omitted the smokiness can and is distilled out in quite a few efforts
course at that stage youre as well to go pot still irish. which you obv should.
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:37 (five years ago) link
my hand really hurts
punched a wall
― Karl Malone, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link
type of wall?
plasterboard repair job or bigger deal or no significant damage?
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 02:40 (five years ago) link
pipe? barrel?
― large bananas pregnant (ledge), Friday, 4 January 2019 09:35 (five years ago) link
too kind
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 09:36 (five years ago) link
Manspreading is for disgusting male savages, look at this dickhead:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jul/06/george-ezra-im-trying-to-figure-out-who-i-am-and-what-i-stand-for
― Never Turn Your Back On Virginia Woolf (Tom D.), Friday, 4 January 2019 12:17 (five years ago) link
i probably shouldn't be posting in this thread but since nobody's made it explicit that non-binary people are not allowed...
working in a woman-centered environment has definitely given me a deeper appreciation for that relational style and i would be happy were it to become the default relational style.
manspreading is absolutely not biologically necessary and anybody who claims such sounds utterly unconvincing and ridiculous.
― errang (rushomancy), Friday, 4 January 2019 14:17 (five years ago) link
Here’s a controp. Whether it’s “manspreading”or “mansplaining,” something in me always bristles against demands to “take up less space,” which was a term in my grad program people liked using. I am interested in others and always try to listen to others—my life can only be enriched by that, I feel—but for the time I am alive I am not going to actively work to make myself “smaller” in the world, I’m sorry. (Taking it as a given that “manspreading” isn’t really about taking up space on a train but is supposed to be a metaphor.)
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:28 (five years ago) link
I “get” that you shouldn’t be talking over people and being dismissive of others but I feel like there were already words for that. I’ve read the Solnit essay and I think the way she refers to mansplaining is more specific and gendered than the loose way I’ve heard it used out and around.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:31 (five years ago) link
Also, full clarification, none of this really bothers me, obviously, or else I wouldn’t hang around the people I do.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:33 (five years ago) link
yeah i'll defend that. to me manspreading is about male "self-expression" in a way that diminishes the ability of non-male forms of expression to exist. i get not liking being told to "take up less space" - i try to frame it as "am i making enough room for others to comfortably be part of this space?". and often, the answer is no, because men aren't socialized to take other people's needs into account.
― errang (rushomancy), Friday, 4 January 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link
Also anyone should post here I don’t really think a men’s only thread is a good idea
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link
well then maybe nobody should post here and people should post to the men's thread that isn't labelled "MALES ONLY" in the title
― errang (rushomancy), Friday, 4 January 2019 14:45 (five years ago) link
why should nobody post here
on a COGH thread
about power washes and benches and stuff
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
That thread is a nightmare though. This one has free beer in the waiting area.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 14:47 (five years ago) link
― Karl Malone, Friday, 4 January 2019 02:39 (twelve hours ago) Permalink
Well I hope that wall was either brick or there's a hole there now, because otherwise man card revoked nahm sayin?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:36 (five years ago) link
― Trϵϵship, Friday, January 4, 2019 9:28 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Turning the irony switch off for a sec, if you're like me, it may be that in spite of your maleness, you're the kind of person who has *already* gone through life trying too hard not to take up space, so you feel a bit unfairly diminished by the suggestion.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
if karl was srs about wall punching i hope hes good
if it was gruff man talk in character of thread then carry on
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Friday, 4 January 2019 15:44 (five years ago) link
I think that’s it man alive. As a teenager I spoke in a fast and quiet monotone to try to rush through the things I had to say. I had to learn to not feel like I’m wasting people’s time when I speak. Might have gone too far in the other direction since then but still I never feel like being confident in social situations is a step toward “dominating” others or squeezing them out. To the contrary, being more “presentl in the room puts people at ease.
― Trϵϵship, Friday, 4 January 2019 16:00 (five years ago) link
― Trϵϵship
yeah, that thread sucks, it's definitely a good idea to just port all discussion over to a similar, but more stupidly named thread, as that will completely ensure that the discussion won't descend to that level again
― errang (rushomancy), Saturday, 5 January 2019 00:55 (five years ago) link
@ Treeship and man alive, I think the goal is to hear the criticism and not feel diminished. I was very brutally tossed into a fire on a Facebook discussion about six years ago by a friend for 'taking up too much space' and felt extremely hurt by not only the content of the criticism, but the delivery. In a conversation with a white female activist friend subsequently, who does immense amounts of work for indigenous rights, I asked her, "in your life, how often are you told to make space by dint of your whiteness in the conversation?" She told me an opinion of hers was shot down as "colonizer thinking" every couple weeks or so, and that she had learned to get used to it. What I mean is, the more engaged you are, the more criticism you may face, and so it's a part of being a better ally, I guess
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 5 January 2019 01:09 (five years ago) link
the goal is power washers and oil stains
we have lots of threads for mea culpaing maleness and no shortage of ppl besides willing to insist on the culpaing if mea isnt quick enough to do it nest pas
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 January 2019 01:31 (five years ago) link
fuckit forgot to pick up washers for that oven door
― topical mlady (darraghmac), Saturday, 5 January 2019 01:32 (five years ago) link
xp fgti, thank you for your input.
i think the "take up less space" idea addresses a real concern. there are certainly some discussions where my input is not the most important input and i accept that. i was kind of just being descriptive about my experience--i "bristle against" it when i hear it, especially when it's more general and not just "take up less space in THIS conversation, specifically." (citation needed, i know--but i have heard this idea thrown around as a more general principle here and there)
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 5 January 2019 01:46 (five years ago) link
i didn't punch a wall! just tried to think of what a real man would say. *flexes muscles to make tattoo on biceps smile or frown*
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 January 2019 01:49 (five years ago) link