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on a related note, the music for the 4th chapter b-side is my favorite of the game so far.

if i had more energy and willpower and research and writing abilities i would write an enormous essay on endlessly looping music, including stuff like hold music for insurance companies but primarily as it's used in video games. the ch. 4 b-side theme is not the best example of what i'm thinking because it is more of just a really long kickass song with identifiable movements that is made to seamlessly loop. but sometimes in other games i'll enter the pause menu, or the title screen, and spend some time appreciating the really thoughtful loop that someone has created for the purpose. it is it's own genre, i think, and it deserves more recognition.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:44 (one year ago) link

fyi after you complete all the regular levels and b sides you unlock golden strawberries which you get from deathless runs, idk if they're retroactive so you might want to hold off on those

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:45 (one year ago) link

oh shit, thank you! i will hold off on attempting deathless runs for the rest of the chapters, then.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:47 (one year ago) link

are you working on 100% completing the game ciderpress? how far are you?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:47 (one year ago) link

I'm not going for 100% anytime soon, haven't finished the b sides yet

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:48 (one year ago) link

Karl what's your twitch name?

I don't have the means to stream myself, but if I could i'd totally kick the shit out of link to the past for y'all

Evan, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:51 (one year ago) link

i am weinventyou on twitch

and yeah, that would be awesome! i have gotten 3/4 of the way through LTTP so many times, but never beaten it ;_;

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:55 (one year ago) link

evan if you ever have questions about the streaming stuff, just let me know. i am very much an amateur but i struggled through a lot of technical issues when i first started and might be able to point you in the right direction at least.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:56 (one year ago) link

streaming pc games is simple, i have no clue how to stream from a switch though

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:02 (one year ago) link

i assume you need a video card that has hdmi in, which mine doesn't

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:04 (one year ago) link

at least on ps4, streaming is built into it - i just hit the share button, connect it to my twitch, and i'm pretty much ready to go. not sure about switch > twitch, though

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:14 (one year ago) link

streaming pc games is simple

i found streaming mac games to be not nearly as simple as i thought it would be, although i am also a bumbling fool in general. my biggest issue was with sound, specifically with routing the correct audio channels to the stream while still being able to hear everything locally. it sounds like it would be easy but for me it involved a combo of OBS, wavtap, soundflower, and multi-output settings in my sound preferences

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:20 (one year ago) link

ah I only have experience with windows that must be it

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:22 (one year ago) link

evan if you ever have questions about the streaming stuff, just let me know. i am very much an amateur but i struggled through a lot of technical issues when i first started and might be able to point you in the right direction at least.

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:56 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I appreciate that! My main deterrent is that my wife would probably get really worried that I was starting to go down some alarming LTTP speed running rabbit hole. We're fascinated and horrified by some of the career streamers we see grinding games for 6+ hours straight. Just seems unhealthy. Of course I wouldn't do that, nor is it inevitable. The closest I've come to streaming was sharing my screen during a skype call so a friend overseas could watch me play a LTTP randomizer.

Evan, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:30 (one year ago) link

ok, working on ch4 b-side now

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:45 (one year ago) link

You guys are total pros. I have hit two points in the first chapter or whatever - Forbidden City? - that have totally stumped me. The first I had to figure out by watching some online play through, this second one ... I hope it doesn't come to that, but I have no idea how to even leave the screen I'm on. Found my first b-side cassette, though.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:20 (one year ago) link

i keep thinking i have reached the end of the b-side, and there's another screen

cloud jump/boost mechanics are always my achilles heel, ever since SMB3, so the stages which depend on them are total nightmares for me

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:46 (one year ago) link

OK, took me about 3 hours and almost 1000 deaths ... to finish the first chapter! With just 6 strawberries, too. On the other hand, I did it!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:14 (one year ago) link

just breathe, you can do this

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:30 (one year ago) link

tell that to my thumb

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:33 (one year ago) link

lol, yeah my thumb hurts as well. i tried the analog stick but i just can't control it as well as the d-pad.

nice job on persevering through the first chapter! believe it or not, the mechanics that you learn in that first chapter will carry you through the entire game. each chapter might add a new element to the mix, but really it's just a matter of applying the basic moves again and again (albeit in more and more tense situations).

i am going to dive back into ch. 5 in a bit - found all the strawberries, but i just need to find the tape and then *gulp* beat the b-side

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 18:45 (one year ago) link

I’m all analog stick on this, definitely took some training to be able to nail the diagonals consistently but I’m much worse at diagonal inputs on a dpad

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Thursday, 8 February 2018 19:19 (one year ago) link

PHEW. just finished the b-side of chapter 5. i didn't like the music for it! bummer. it reminds me of how much it adds to the game when it's good (which is most of the time)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 8 February 2018 21:45 (one year ago) link

ciderpress or silby or fgti or anyone else - can you pull off anything in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fzcnDIpuZs

i can't

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 05:08 (one year ago) link

I just watched you beat that b-side. Thank god for fast forward. 100% otm about the music in that stage, it’s really obtrusive.

El Tomboto, Friday, 9 February 2018 05:36 (one year ago) link

yeah, it was brutal. 667 deaths, iirc!

in general, i really like searching for all the strawberries, finding the b-sides, and the crystal hearts. the completion of the actual b-sides has been a bit more agonizing than fun. but fuck, i gotta do it

Karl Malone, Friday, 9 February 2018 05:41 (one year ago) link

I can pull off the dash-cancel into the jump, you can do a similar thing in Towerfall. I didn’t know about the variations where you hold down and dash or dash down-diagonal and then do a boosted jump so you can have your dash back in midair.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Friday, 9 February 2018 06:06 (one year ago) link

ooh i wanna try those but unfortunately i am in a room in ch. 3 b-side that has no navigable room to jump around in and is also impossible >;(

this game is so sweet tho. i don't know if i'm necessarily still not awful at it but i've def gotten better at acting within the increments of time the game wants you to act within. i beat the main storyline in about 11hrs & got to/thru chap 8, now going back for all the everythings which i am never tempted to do in any game.

sleepingbag, Friday, 9 February 2018 06:13 (one year ago) link

eventually settled on analog stick only, much like while playing fifa i occasionally think 'i swear i wasn't pushing in that direction' immediately after my player character careens off someway, but overall it feels a little better than d pad

sleepingbag, Friday, 9 February 2018 06:16 (one year ago) link

I... I can't perfect world one. I have tried for an hour.

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 February 2018 07:09 (one year ago) link

ah god I've slowed down to the rate of about 30 minutes per screen now. this is gonna go on forever.

thomasintrouble, Friday, 9 February 2018 09:59 (one year ago) link

^^^^ it took me at least 15 minutes to do 90% of the screens in the game. BUT i never got to one that i couldn't beat in a reasonable amount of time UNTIL this stupid room on b-side 3 which i've been stuck on for days

http://i63.tinypic.com/wijymh.gif

i have no idea how to do this and i've watched 3 different ppl beat it in vods. apparently you need to jump toward the very tops of all the walls so you don't waste stamina jumping/climbing up and down. but i can't really do that, i've tried hundreds of times and can't just land right on the exact spots. so i have to climb a little, and then run out of stamina right at the end. even with no stamina i might be able to make the last jump from the right side of the right upper ledge onto the right side of the one below it and then immediately off to the right and in, but... hasn't happened yet.

also i was hoping that this was near the end of the level but in the speedrun vid i clicked it turns out this is like 6 minutes into a 35 min video o_o

that said, still somehow i find the challenge of this game inviting. i don't understand why at all. i should have thrown the switch out the window ten times by now.

sleepingbag, Saturday, 10 February 2018 02:59 (one year ago) link

yikes i can see the path through there but that looks v hard to execute

ciderpress, Saturday, 10 February 2018 04:43 (one year ago) link

beat ittttttt awwwwww yeah

the next cpl rooms were insultingly easy after that shit. also right away in the next room got that hyper-dash-double-jump thing going 1st try. i am celeste. i am the mountain.

sleepingbag, Saturday, 10 February 2018 08:08 (one year ago) link

prolly about +500 deaths in that one room tho

sleepingbag, Saturday, 10 February 2018 08:09 (one year ago) link

Loving Chapter 2. Those celestrial dash blobs are lots of fun.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 February 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

Celestrial? Celestial!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 February 2018 21:37 (one year ago) link

The fuck? Celestrial is not even a word, why would autocorrect correct to that?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 10 February 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

okeydokey, i have enough b-side hearts to go for the core. i'm gonna give it a try now if you want to watch me die hundreds of times
https://www.twitch.tv/weinventyou

Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 February 2018 19:19 (one year ago) link

Cleared 3B! Tried to log a full clear of chapter 1 but I missed a strawberry somewhere.

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Sunday, 11 February 2018 19:38 (one year ago) link

3B is the woooooist

Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 February 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

phew, the core was hard but not impossible. a little bit over an hour, and only 367 deaths! i've seen worse

Karl Malone, Sunday, 11 February 2018 20:40 (one year ago) link

watching that was v stressful btw

gbx, Sunday, 11 February 2018 22:50 (one year ago) link

I am nowhere near where some of you are at, in skill or achievement, but one of the many things I increasingly like about this game is how it pretty much encourages you to die again and again, directing you in the end to try (sometimes in desperation) to do the craziest, blind jump off a cliff thing, even though you've half suspected from the start that that's exactly what you were supposed to do in the first place.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 February 2018 03:12 (one year ago) link

one of the many qualities it shares with SMB3 is that you end up exploring every reachable bit of every screen, partly to look for secrets but also just to kind of check it out. it's a pleasant feeling.

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 03:16 (one year ago) link

This game keeps crashing my ancient PS4. :( Still fun tho

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 12 February 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link

Not exactly struggling but still a little annoyed by what must be the home stretch of chapter 2, getting chased by all the shadow versions of me. I know I can beat it, it just doesn't give you much time to think, and (no joke) I think I now have a blister forming on my left thumb.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 February 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link

yep, you're close! the shadows are terrifying at first, but they get a lot easier after several million deaths learning a reliable path through each screen that doesn't ever double-back on itself, if that makes sense

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 21:39 (one year ago) link

i have 2 b-sides left, i think. i might tackle one of them in just a bit *gulp*

Karl Malone, Monday, 12 February 2018 21:41 (one year ago) link

Huh, OK, that wasn't that bad. But here's the thing: I just completed chapter 2 with 2/3rds fewer deaths than chapter 1 and I took an hour less to do it. Was it easier or ... am I getting better?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 12 February 2018 22:32 (one year ago) link


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