Steven Spielberg - classic or dud

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lolz great minds think alike

Tennis Bum (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm ashamed it took me this long to realize that pretty much everyone on ILX exaggerates their hatred of Spielberg in a sort of equal-but-opposite fashion.

neu hollywood (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm ashamed it took me this long to realize that pretty much everyone on ILX exaggerates their hatred of Spielberg in a sort of equal-but-opposite fashion let's-pick-on-Morbius way.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

dr.morbius has done more for america than all of ilx

velko, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm ashamed it took me this long to realize that pretty much everyone on ILX exaggerates their hatred of Spielberg in a sort of equal-but-opposite fashion.

― neu hollywood (Eric H.), Tuesday, May 19, 2009 3:28 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i think most people do this -- at times it feels awfully deserved

Surmounter, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

(most ppl i know anyway)

Surmounter, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Whatever makes Spielberg seem controversial and vital is all good imo.

neu hollywood (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

i always say i like spielberg!

s1ocki, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

i a.i. say i like spielberg!

neu hollywood (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

i indiana jones for spielberg movies.

s1ocki, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

It's remarkable how well he's done considering a main theme is I wanna fuck my Mom

i, grey, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean hes only made two good movies since but

wtf is the 2nd one????

Lamp, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

It's remarkable how well he's done considering a main theme is I wanna fuck my Mom

― i, grey, Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:18 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

worked for sophocles

s1ocki, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

ILX really hated Hitchcock in 1965

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

well he'd just made marnie, which was a very divisive picture

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sure S.S. will make something really fluffy w/ Julia Roberts & Steve Martin if only Surmounter asks him.

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"ILX really hated Hitchcock in 1965"

Yeah they're really similar directors except for Stephen Spielberg consistently sucking and Hitchcock being consistently great.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 20:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sure S.S. will make something really fluffy w/ Julia Roberts & Steve Martin if only Surmounter asks him.

that would be too unpretentious

"the whale saw her" (gabbneb), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:04 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean hes only made two good movies since but

wtf is the 2nd one????

― Lamp, Tuesday, May 19, 2009 4:30 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i am legend

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf is the 1st one?

neu hollywood (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:09 (fourteen years ago) link

bad boys 2

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:10 (fourteen years ago) link

: /

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:11 (fourteen years ago) link

lol i tht u were going 2 say hitch

xp really?

Lamp, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah they're really similar directors except for Stephen Spielberg consistently sucking and Hitchcock being consistently great

Nice poll idea. I can think of at least 10 Hitchcock films that totally suck, though.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link

More talk of sucking and cock plz.

neu hollywood (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

haha no i pulled "two" out of my ass and then just named the first 2 i could remember

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link

aka i did what ive been doing on ILX for 3 years now

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Part of being a commercial filmmaker is that you're going to mistake the public mood and make terrible movies on occasion. I don't hold Spielberg or Hitchcock's failures against them.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

bad boys 2 is pretty good if not the masterpiece that some other ilc mod claims but yah

u know whats a good movie is minority report

Lamp, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link

mistaking the public mood seems to be an excuse for a film that flops rather than a bad film

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

It's both too.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

how would it result in a bad film?

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:18 (fourteen years ago) link

minority report is good but has a kind of dum ending

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link

"Nice poll idea. I can think of at least 10 Hitchcock films that totally suck, though."

Guy made like 50 though. He's entitled to a few stinkers. 10 seems high though.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

There's plenty of bad films that flop!

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Hitch's: Torn Curtain, Topaz -- bad films and totally out of step with their respective release year's big films.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay that's two.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

He made nearly 20 movies before arriving at the original Man Who Knew Too Much and The 39 Steps, and most of them are no Rear Windows.

neu hollywood (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess what i'm asking is why a film that misreads a commercial audience would = a bad film, unless you're saying certain hackish tendencies of both filmmakers (in angling for box office) ruin the film

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i guess what i'm asking is why a film that misreads a commercial audience would = a bad film, unless you're saying certain hackish tendencies of both filmmakers (in angling for box office) ruin the film

I never suggested a causal relationship, and sorry if I didn't make myself clear.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link

xxp Sure sure and a lot of them are really dated, but sucks still seems harsh. There are some early gems there too.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

i forgive you. this time!

blair underwood: "man up" (omar little), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

sucks still seems harsh

Unless you're talking about Spielberg, natch.

neu hollywood (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

even tho i love Marnie, i still think it kind of sucks

Surmounter, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing is too harsh when applied to Spielberg.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

Marnie and Torn Curtain goofy, but entertaining enough to avoid being completely useless. Topaz and Family Plot suck. I've not seen all (or even most of) the pre-39 Steps flicks, but I recall Blackmail and Sabotage being worthwhile.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Add Jamaica Inn, The Paradine Case, Rope, I Confess, The Wrong Man to the suck list.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm sure most of the silent films are pretty lame, but they are silent films so I have little expectation of greatness. It seems lame to count that against him.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't seen Jamaica Inn, but the other four are all very watchable.

Alex in SF, Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

they are silent films so I have little expectation of greatness.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link


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