Alex Press in Vox (!) on "carceral feminism"
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/2/1/16952744/me-too-larry-nassar-judge-aquilina-feminism
― Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link
Leaping off that article to the below, which is one of the saddest things I have read recently. I seriously did not know how bad sex trafficking is in the US where men are paying to have sex with children because they just can't pass up an opportunity that presents itself??? And that the justice system has no real way to prosecute them when the victims are traumatized/abused children who are unreliable witnesses and it's hard to prove that the men didn't know they were underaged.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2018/01/30/sex-trafficking-column/1073459001/
― Yerac, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
Upenn revoking honorary degrees from Steve Wynn and, in a timely fashion, Bill Cosby.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link
In future all honorary degrees will be rigged to self-destruct (triggered remotely by the university's board, as needed).
― I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link
they can't all be upstanding citizens who not only coach and win a lot of games involving a leather ball but also have enough time to shield a child molester.
― omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link
that sex trafficking piece is in a tight race with the Splinter health care piece from yesterday for upsetting stories, yes
― Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link
please revoke every degree given to james franco
― infinity (∞), Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link
v weird seeing stuff with franco that was taped before the golden globes still going up weeks later. mainly thinking of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzvLWeMK_U&
― flappy bird, Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link
Robert Wagner. i hold out hope that one of these mf'ing men admit to what they have done.
― Yerac, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link
i hope my alma mater does the same with cosby, who received his degree the year i got my bachelors
― maura, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link
wagner? are we talking about natlie wood?
― akm, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link
yep: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/natalie-wood-death-robert-wagner-person-of-interest-says-investigator/?linkId=47633160
― maura, Friday, 2 February 2018 01:46 (six years ago) link
i was a little glum earlier when i thought they were talking about james garner rather than robert wagner
― j., Friday, 2 February 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link
― Simon H., Thursday, February 1, 2018 9:09 AM
interesting article. I think most reasonable people would agree that we should be cautious about throwing more people in jail as a result of expanding definitions of gendered offenses, but it doesn’t really seem like that is imminent here in the US. for now the biggest issue seems to be creating an environment where women feel safe reporting crimes committed against them
― k3vin k., Friday, 2 February 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link
that article seems to be more focused on existing problems rather than warning about possible future ones. ppl being evicted, trapped in their jobs, abused by police and so on are clearly pretty big issues
― ogmor, Friday, 2 February 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link
The takeaway that I got from the article is that since the justice system tends to mostly work for certain crimes and for people of a certain class/race/gender, as much as some of us would love to lock up or fine sexual predators/harassers this is not practical. Instead we have to address wealth inequality, the patriarchy, power inequality between the sexes. Which I agree with.
― Yerac, Friday, 2 February 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link
whats going on w Rose McGowan? apparently she was heckled by a trans activist and decided she doesn't want the stress and now people are dragging her on Twitter for not wanting to put herself in this abusive situation. people are acting like she owes them something. it is pretty sad.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 February 2018 01:26 (six years ago) link
http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/rose-mcgowan-cancels-appearances-1202686011/
Yeah I see the usual twitter assholes calling her a TERF
― President Keyes, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:01 (six years ago) link
the stuff she said looks bad in print but on the video it seems like a reaction to being shouted at for quite awhile
― President Keyes, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:11 (six years ago) link
woe betide the half-woke
― mookieproof, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:17 (six years ago) link
woe betide the half-woke...
― flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:49 (six years ago) link
the real battle then becomes: who gets to define the all-woke and half-woke, combined with the fierce rise of the woker-than-thou.
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:03 (six years ago) link
ain't no such thing as halfway woke
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:44 (six years ago) link
there absolutely is
― flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link
happens to me every morning
"woe betide the half-woke" is actually a pretty deep sentiment in the present cultural environment imo - I grew up around Marxists who hated liberals much, much more than they hated conservatives, and I'm friends with plenty of people like that right now; the tendency to think of a partial ally, or a flawed ally, or an anything-less-than-100%-onboard-with-the-program ally as more deserving of enemy status than an enemy -- this is totally familiar territory for anybody who's spent time in communist part meetings, but it's got reach now. I consider this really unhealthy, even though I do think it's very healthy for white liberals to be reminded that meaning well in your heart is bare-minimum stuff, not you-get-a-cookie stuff. but the act of denying the cookie isn't really worth the camera time it's getting rn imo
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link
*party obv
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link
At least in the pre-internet days you could have a private life and a social life that was separate. Life these days is an eternal Central Committee meeting.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:57 (six years ago) link
The people harrassing Rose McGowan because she had an emotional breakdown are monsters.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 3 February 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link
I feel like the flaws was always why McGowan was so important and powerful.
― Frederik B, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:04 (six years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/03/opinion/sunday/this-is-why-uma-thurman-is-angry.html?smid=fb-share
is this going to fuck up tarantino's career?
― akm, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link
It had better
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link
Man, that car crash footage!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link
I don’t get why they needed to use a fucked up car. She definitely is entitled to serious compensation for that.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link
Thurman says that in “Kill Bill,” Tarantino had done the honors with some of the sadistic flourishes himself, spitting in her face in the scene where Michael Madsen is seen on screen doing it and choking her with a chain in the scene where a teenager named Gogo is on screen doing it.
Jesus.
― Simon H., Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:46 (six years ago) link
Like I can imagine an actor/director relationship where jumping in for stuff like that would actually make sense, but in the context of everything else mentioned in this story, just, goddamn.
― Simon H., Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link
Tarantino has always been the worst American filmmaker. Not that that is relevant to this. But still.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
I am surprised that someone with QT's narrative fetishes is a sick fuck.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:52 (six years ago) link
now i understand her terse response just a little betterhow grosshaven't read the full deets but the info contained itt is more than enough to get the picture
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link
His movies are incredibly hateful — gushing tributes to vulgarity with just enough ironic distance to establish his own sophistication. The paradigm, for me, of the worst possible way to make art.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 3 February 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link
Of course he would treat his actresses as objects. His entire approach — his empty formalism — involves a fundamental lack of respect for cinema, for storytelling, for human experience and vulnerability.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 3 February 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link
Treeship otm
― Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 3 February 2018 17:11 (six years ago) link
well put indeed
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 3 February 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link
making death proof after that is unbelievably fucked updidn’t he also personally choke out diane kruger onscreen in inglorious basterds?
― i gotta be a gazpacho man (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 3 February 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link
Yes, those are his hands strangling Kruger.
― Chris L, Saturday, 3 February 2018 17:16 (six years ago) link
There's really no need to align his awful movies with him as a person; he's quite obviously an awful bastard in his own right.
That footage is something else.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link
maybe. the movies would be bad even if he was a great guy though.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link
Exactly.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Saturday, 3 February 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link
I just rewatched Kill Bill 1&2 a month ago. I still found really great parts of the movie but the entire hospital scene with Buck was some extreme pervy/predator bullshit.
― Yerac, Saturday, 3 February 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link