quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

he's a well-paid but otherwise ordinary journalist. he may or may not be smart, but he's not an elite anything. "intelligentsia"

o wait, 125k for 2 is middle class

if that's the situation here

Yeah, but see, again, depending on where you live, $120,000 per year is hardly "hefty." As a raw number it LOOKS hefty, but cost of living can eat it up right quick.

Cost of living can eat that right up, but you have a lot of control over what your cost of living is. Obv. you don't have total control: health care, food and shelter, e.g. As a father of three in a single-income family I don't really get what kids have to do with the costs, unless you're committed to private schooling in which case we're surely talking luxury, no?

As a father of three in a single-income family I don't really get what kids have to do with the costs

where do you live again?

As a father of three in a single-income family I don't really get what kids have to do with the costs

do you let your kids walk around naked

ah euler theres the disconnect--in new york you dont actually own your kids you have to rent them from the city for as much as 25k/yr

I don't get it, Euler, are you saying you have three kids and they don't make a dent in your bottom line?

http://herokids.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/oliver-twist-gruel.jpg

this dude is just finishing up an hour call-in program on NPR's On Point (WBUR BOSTON) and he is not provoking much sympathy (which, he hastens to add, is not his intent)

It's clear that he is not of the ruling class: the Ruling Class think they are Jesus and break into song and dance given the opportunity.

i am the country's elite intelligentsia all by myself

mostly this guy seems like a boob who leveraged his personal failings into a book deal, which seems to be a popular strategy nowadays

raise your hand if you have financial problems and no book deal?

arguing about whether this guy is upper/middle/lower/ruling(???) class is retarded - we already know exactly how much money he makes, where he lives and what his expenses are. we don't have to define him by some vague term. he is a dude who makes 100k and lives a certain lifestyle in a certain part of the country - whether or not he's 'upper middle class' won't reveal anything we don't already know. the ilx version of arguing about whether joy division are goth.

Like we don't do that too.

a boob who leveraged his personal failings into a book deal, which seems to be a popular strategy nowadays

https://www.booksonboard.com/BoB_site_root/book_covers/300/6531.jpg

plus ça change...

Locals joke that the only slimming down this town knows is liposuction

die

miss u l.a., don't miss ny times articles about u

just because people in other cities are ugly doesn't mean u have to take it out on los angeles, nytimes

Here's basically what I think about this. I don't mean to seem like I care about material things, like social status. I just want four walls and adobe slabs for my girls.

McArdle again:

At the end of his book's harrowing account of mortgage mistakes and credit card crises, Edmund Andrews writes: "While our misadventure had certainly been more extreme than those of many other Americans, our situation was not all that unusual." And indeed the book reads like the story of an American Everyman, easily sucked in to the alluring world of easy credit as he struggled to blend a new family. The terrifying implication is that it could happen to you--to anyone who leads with their heart and not their head.

But en route to that moral, it turns out the story has been tidied up a little. Patty Barreiro, Andrews' wife, has declared bankruptcy twice. The second time was while they were married, a detail that didn't make it into either the book or the excerpt that ran in last Sunday's New York Times Magazine.

It continues from there.

That seems to be a pretty big omission.

Whatever else you want to say about this guy, he was at least polite and diplomatic enough to be nice and vague about his situation, and not call his book Alimony for the Ex-Wife and Bankruptcy for the New One: I Blame Them and Should Have Been a Bachelor

what i'm taking away from all this is that the financial crisis was exacerbated, if not caused by, dimbulbs and women

if not and perhaps even

Edwards responds and McArdle responds back.

McArdle otm. "All that happened in 1998, and it obviously had nothing to do with the story in Busted. It never even occurred to me to mention it" doesn't pass my smell test, for what that's worth.

Wowowow is she working hard to report this evenhanded. His roundabout response is pretty douchey (and evasive).

er, evenhandedly

The more she presents about this all the more I'm kinda astounded.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/nyregion/08trustafarians.html

williamsburg: full of entitled assholes!!

i always used 'trustafarian' to refer to white kids with dreads and subsidized weed habits (nyu lol)

"trust fund babies/bitches" works okay.

actually a lot of that article rang kind of false to me--are there really a lot of people like this?

“They say, ‘You want me to work eight hours?’ ” Mr. Illades said. “There is a bubble bursting.”

i just like to lol at all the landlord and developers who conspired to build like a dozen new condo buildings within two years, half of which have become abandoned construction.

that sounds like an onion article

Area Man LOLs at Developers

biggest lol: "my parents have money and support me financially -- no one must know my secret shame"

gotta maintain that cred, right?

hardly a new phenomenon, I know, I just enjoy how the article lays it out there in this anthropological fashion -- "tribal custom dictates you don't talk about daddy's money"

obviously the stigma's not that bad if the NYT can get people on record about it.

that or kids in williamsburg will say anything to get in the times

the girl in the photo is auditioning for ... what? a mumblecore porno?

she's a playwright

like that chick in... that one mumblecore film.

which fucking sucked.

'hannah takes the stairs'

kind of redundant writing 'thnat mumblecore film that sucked' amirite.

you tell me Mr. Mumblecore, I've never seen a Mumblecore movie.

chick from article

http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/archives/2008/08/misha_calvert.html

you tell me Mr. Mumblecore, I've never seen a Mumblecore movie.

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:59 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i saw it for ca$h

okay Mr. Mumblecore