hahaha
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link
that poster is pretty great
plax, I think Fire Walk With Me addresses a lot of your misgivings about the series's reluctance to acknowledge its more troubling implications, although if you found the Black Lodge sequence in the finale to be tedious, I'm not sure you'll enjoy the more abstract scenes in FWWM.
― one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
does the new one resemble ally mcbeal to the same degree?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link
The problem is not surrealism. The dream sequences are amazing in earlier episodes. The appearance of the giant, the reappearance of the lovely hotel porter. But strobe lights and coloured contacts are unbelievably lazy.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link
S2 is redeemed by the finale as many have said. I agree with all of plaxico's v common complaints about the second half of S2, and yea maybe in the beginning of the finale there's some of that unresolved bullshit, but windom earle luring cooper into the black lodge only to be rendered completely irrelevant by the super massive forces of the lodge validates his storyline imo, bc yeah he's the reason cooper went into the black lodge & his very sudden erasure shows how useless he was & how powerful the lodge is. that very first scene in the lodge with 'sycamore trees' is my favorite moment in the whole series, return included. cooper frozen in place, eyes wide, lights strobing. just stunning
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link
ows otm fwwm is absolutely a film about incestuous abuse that happens to use BOB as a visual representation thereof (the same is true of the series at least until its worst episode, after which the matter is simply ignored)
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
worst episode?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link
flappy otm, Sycamore Trees is the best scene in either show, I love everything about that scene so much
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link
lol so rude "your very common complaints"
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link
your tediously familiar complaints
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
imo the worst ep is the one with Leland's wake, that's the one where Cooper unequivocally says "Leland didn't do these things" (although even then coop has been shown to be wrong about everything), previous to that it was ambiguous but leaning towards it's Leland
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link
i didn't mean to be rude, they're not tedious, i'm saying i agree with you on almost everything, as do most people. opinions only diverge on the finale. no disrespect xp
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link
lol I don't take offense that easily dont worry
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
I don't think it's anything personal; Twin Peaks fans have bonded over our shared suffering through the Evelyn and James subplot for the better part of three decades by now
xxxp
― one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link
https://welcometotwinpeaks.com/wp-content/uploads/dale-cooper-go-seahawks.jpg
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:15 (six years ago) link
my bf let out a sigh of genuine anguish every time james appeared on screen, p much from the beginning.
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link
another q re finale, why do they introduce sexually voracious but with car trouble german waitress heidi?
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
She was in the pilot
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link
In an almost identical scene
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
She is jolly and randy
― YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
Callback to the pilot (the dialogue is repeated verbatim), and a way of gesturing toward an unsettling cyclicality before Sarah Palmer comes in with her otherworldly message; either that, or Lynch just liked the actor and character.
― one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link
xxp
― one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
oh ok, I had forgotten her. I guess that is very "Lynch"
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link
There are a lot of returns in that last ep, its kind of a theme
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link
anyway plax, imagine sitting through the one or two movies James Marshall starred in after TP bcz producers somehow thought he could do that.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link
Marshall was boldly cast against type as a pouty lackwit in A FEW GOOD MEN neva 4get
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link
xp Cmon how could this fail?
Important brief-case is stolen from the mob boss Vinny. His assistant Kelly must quickly react and he hires two small-time crooks to follow the rival mobster. One of the men is hard core criminal, the other is an amateur.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link
all in sheryl lee's and lara flynn boyle's expressions
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link
.... that scene is unpopular????
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link
Well people hate the Donna character turn (a lot of twin peaks fans have Boyle issues)
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link
But those two are incredible in that scene
these are all season two episode one scenes right? so much happens in that episode
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:54 (six years ago) link
The song is s2 ep 2
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:55 (six years ago) link
ah i figured, those episodes always mix together in my head (s2ep1 maddie screams at the floor, s2ep2 maddie screams at bob who climbs over the furniture toward her)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link
(i think, lol)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:57 (six years ago) link
anyway i feel like people generally have more issues with donna seducing james in his jail cell than her scene with maddie at the diner. i love both
My friend waited until the DVD release to watch the return and told me that he was gonna prepare himself by watching fwwm and the missing pieces and rewatching the finale - I told him that was a really good strategy but to also rewatch the first 2 eps of season 2
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
i said this in... one of the many twin peaks threads, but i completely forgot about the hayward/palmer dinner scene in s2e1 (i think?)
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:03 (six years ago) link
Yeah the credits to the s2 premiere play over Alicia Witt playing piano
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:04 (six years ago) link
it's such a great scene too
any scene where ray wise is making everyone uncomfortable with his grief is a great scene generally
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:05 (six years ago) link
Yeah - & it goes without saying but especially in retrospect
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:06 (six years ago) link
The diner scene is such a touchstone for me and also the scene I most flashed on when I saw people using the very limited metrics of #prestigetv to determine the wokeness or whatever of the return: does this character have agency beep boop do they display interiority boop blorp nuance shading ER-ROR ER-RORWhen that simply isn't what this filmmaker is up to: what I love about that scene is how it demonstrates a key lynch thing where elements that ought to be discrete - personalities, identities, even events - are diffuse, a mood like the subjunctive. There aren't two clearly defined "characters" in that scene, there are several animating energies moving in the air between two actors
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:34 (six years ago) link
that's a great observation
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:36 (six years ago) link
I agree tbh! That scene gave me a way of seeing that I've fruitfully applied to all lynch, partic inland empire; it's my equivalent of yr I've figured it out medium post theory crafting (I even recorded a podcast about it at the time lol)
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
just wanna say i think the bomb in the safety deposit box is hilarious, it's the end of moby-dick
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link
are you looking for secrets?
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link
James' forehead is so high he looks like one of the aliens in This Island Earth
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:01 (six years ago) link
He looks like zoolander drawn in the style of beavis and/or butthead
― scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:10 (six years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/A7pvUUz_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
― scrüt (wins), Friday, 2 February 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link