Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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Truman, Cooper and the Major. Good decent guys from the protective arm of the state, enveloping us in warm enlightened vibes from Tibet, etc.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

The show's reimagining of the Feds as a spiritual chivalric order shouldn't be taken literally imo but also like, they're completely impotent and clueless and fail all the time?

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:52 (six years ago) link

Too bad there's all this ahistorical evil out there making us rape our daughters in train carriages

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

^^^^

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

i was agreeing with wins not with plax

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

you people are going to get me sick of this show before I watch The Return.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

thanks morbs, i hope you do

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

I would skip it entirely. Maybe just read the wikipedia summary or something and then watch something better.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

There is a level on which Cooper and esp Cole are, well, clowns.

btwn this show and X-Files I think '90s TV cultists have a misshapen concept of how often the feds deal with the paranormal. (UFOs, that's another matter.)

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

too late, plax, i got the Bluray for Christmas!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

Twin Peaks is about the story of abuse itself
Twin Peaks is about dualities and opposing forces
Twin Peaks is about the absence of Laura Palmer in a quaint little town that gets uglier and more violent as the layers come off
Twin Peaks is about as serious as a Tom & Jerry cartoon
Twin Peaks is about entering a world, falling in love with it, working within it, and letting it talk to you.
Twin Peaks is about healing
Twin Peaks is about how a small American town reacts to a murder mystery
Twin Peaks is about the masks people wear
Twin Peaks is about a lot of things, but basically, it is the mystery of who killed Laura Palmer
Twin Peaks is about the battle between good and evil
Twin Peaks is about the ugly frisson between public personas and private perversions
Twin Peaks is about the endlessly seductive idea of "mystery," of the ways human beings find to deal with the unknown
Twin Peaks is about the complexity, beauty, and horror of our choices
Twin Peaks is about you, because YOU'RE THE MAN
Twin Peaks is about wrestling with the nature of evil
Twin Peaks is about good and bad, about why people cling into certain myths and ideologies, about how far evilness can get into the bloodstreams of our society unrecognized
Twin Peaks is about watching sports and beautiful girls
Twin Peaks is about Baby Boomer shame
Twin Peaks is about a town of people whose lives criss-cross back and forth and they all knew Laura
TWIN PEAKS is about CONSPIRACIES - SECRETS MYSTERIES HUMAN NATURE AND HUMAN FAILINGS
Twin Peaks is about darkness and light, beauty and violence, and the endless yearning for more than real life.
Twin Peaks is about sex

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

plax why is it important to you that other people don't enjoy twin peaks

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

twin peaks is about healing

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:58 (six years ago) link

why do you think this is important to me?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 17:59 (six years ago) link

what's important is to watch this show in the most bad faith way possible

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link

This poster sums up what Twin Peaks is about pretty definitively

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/40/a9/1840a9c464cc9faf6c0d567bff8c3cef.jpg

Chris L, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link

omg, i was genuinely excited to watch this and enjoyed it and then pretended to still be enjoying it. This is the rage of disillusionment.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

I'm like the richard dawkins of twin peaks

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

ew

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:01 (six years ago) link

hahaha

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link

that poster is pretty great

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link

plax, I think Fire Walk With Me addresses a lot of your misgivings about the series's reluctance to acknowledge its more troubling implications, although if you found the Black Lodge sequence in the finale to be tedious, I'm not sure you'll enjoy the more abstract scenes in FWWM.

one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link

does the new one resemble ally mcbeal to the same degree?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:04 (six years ago) link

The problem is not surrealism. The dream sequences are amazing in earlier episodes. The appearance of the giant, the reappearance of the lovely hotel porter. But strobe lights and coloured contacts are unbelievably lazy.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:05 (six years ago) link

S2 is redeemed by the finale as many have said. I agree with all of plaxico's v common complaints about the second half of S2, and yea maybe in the beginning of the finale there's some of that unresolved bullshit, but windom earle luring cooper into the black lodge only to be rendered completely irrelevant by the super massive forces of the lodge validates his storyline imo, bc yeah he's the reason cooper went into the black lodge & his very sudden erasure shows how useless he was & how powerful the lodge is. that very first scene in the lodge with 'sycamore trees' is my favorite moment in the whole series, return included. cooper frozen in place, eyes wide, lights strobing. just stunning

flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

ows otm fwwm is absolutely a film about incestuous abuse that happens to use BOB as a visual representation thereof (the same is true of the series at least until its worst episode, after which the matter is simply ignored)

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

worst episode?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

flappy otm, Sycamore Trees is the best scene in either show, I love everything about that scene so much

Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:09 (six years ago) link

lol so rude "your very common complaints"

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:10 (six years ago) link

your tediously familiar complaints

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

imo the worst ep is the one with Leland's wake, that's the one where Cooper unequivocally says "Leland didn't do these things" (although even then coop has been shown to be wrong about everything), previous to that it was ambiguous but leaning towards it's Leland

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

i didn't mean to be rude, they're not tedious, i'm saying i agree with you on almost everything, as do most people. opinions only diverge on the finale. no disrespect xp

flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:12 (six years ago) link

lol I don't take offense that easily dont worry

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

I don't think it's anything personal; Twin Peaks fans have bonded over our shared suffering through the Evelyn and James subplot for the better part of three decades by now

xxxp

one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

my bf let out a sigh of genuine anguish every time james appeared on screen, p much from the beginning.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

another q re finale, why do they introduce sexually voracious but with car trouble german waitress heidi?

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link

She was in the pilot

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:21 (six years ago) link

In an almost identical scene

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

She is jolly and randy

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

Callback to the pilot (the dialogue is repeated verbatim), and a way of gesturing toward an unsettling cyclicality before Sarah Palmer comes in with her otherworldly message; either that, or Lynch just liked the actor and character.

one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

xxp

one way street, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

oh ok, I had forgotten her. I guess that is very "Lynch"

plax (ico), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

There are a lot of returns in that last ep, its kind of a theme

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link

anyway plax, imagine sitting through the one or two movies James Marshall starred in after TP bcz producers somehow thought he could do that.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link

Marshall was boldly cast against type as a pouty lackwit in A FEW GOOD MEN neva 4get

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

xp Cmon how could this fail?

Important brief-case is stolen from the mob boss Vinny. His assistant Kelly must quickly react and he hires two small-time crooks to follow the rival mobster. One of the men is hard core criminal, the other is an amateur.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

all in sheryl lee's and lara flynn boyle's expressions


Just to test the waters of Brad-wins simpatico, another absolutely amazing and weirdly unpopular scene from this stretch of episodes is the glasses scene between these two in the diner

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

.... that scene is unpopular????

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:48 (six years ago) link

Well people hate the Donna character turn (a lot of twin peaks fans have Boyle issues)

very stabbable gaius (wins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 19:50 (six years ago) link


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