praxis is how you get to carnigie hall iirc
― mark s, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link
*pretends typo adds clever layer to whiskered old gag*
That was the gag I was playing with tho tbf
weird how Rotten's most important moment, that none-more-snotty "we mean it, maaaaaan" became ignored by endless bores opining that meaning it is all that matters
― bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
That McLaren quote is funny though.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:49 (six years ago) link
Love2Malcolm, but then he wasn't the one turning moments into mausoleums
― bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
weird how Rotten's most important moment
enh i could make a case for 'ever get the feeling you've been cheated' as the defining rotten and/or pistols moment but i'm still pondering suicide over brewdog's 'equity for punks' tbh
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link
yeah OK that's a good one too
― bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link
those recalcitrant rebel rousers were just out of control, man, how did the establishment survive them?
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link
this is why my aesthetic is the Mute records '78-'84 box set and a handful of Throbbing Gristle albums, no attempts to codify an ethos there
― mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link
Just to note that I am in Tesco now and they have the following Brewdog beers- "Punk IPA" "Dead Pony Club" and "Elvis Juice."
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:37 (six years ago) link
kind of want to try their grapefruit IPA to see if it's as bad as claimed, but Elvis Juice is such a terminally bad name
― mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:38 (six years ago) link
'dead pony club' and 'elvis juice' basically just make me think of landfill leachate
― faust apes (NickB), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:41 (six years ago) link
Brewdog have some distribution deal, it's even in some of the roughest Onestop branches in the UK - where the idea of a £6 4-pack is unthinkable.
― calzino, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:45 (six years ago) link
elvis juice just sounds like sloshing human remains siphoned from the bottom of the king’s coffin to me
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
Very much the Tramp Juice versions of craft beers, they're borderline drinkable and you kid yourself they're fine because of the price.
(Actually the two NEIPAs they did with Cloudwater were pretty fine and the Vietnamese Coffee edition of Black Eyed King Imp was excellent but apart from that they're bang average.)
The comment upthread about the bars being 'tie-off after work' places is bang-on; the one in Birmingham is the only place I've been asked if I'm selling coke, then asked if I'm buying by someone else within 5 minutes when an ad agency were in there following their Christmas party. The one in Sheffield has people who know nothing about beer there, more or less including their staff after the argument I had with one of them and we once saw two girls in Bristol buy bottles and pour them in order to take selfies with the beer and handbag dogs to post on Instagram then leave with the beers untouched. I was in the one in Stirling over Christmas and it was weird, guys at the bar just drinking lager and the staff trying to trade you up with merchandise every time you bought a drink.
The exception was possibly Brewdog Berlin which seemed to have a better atmosphere, however, we only stopped in briefly on the way between Mikkeller and The Castle and it was still full of English-speakers on Christmas parties.
― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
http://www.neonfiller.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/fatima-mansions-viva-dead-ponies.jpg
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:20 (six years ago) link
quite enjoy Elvis Juice but it tastes much more like grapefruit juice than beer
this feels like a strange topic for a thread revive as I can't recall Brewdog doing anything publicly stupid or even noteworthy for several months
never met anyone who is vocally enthusiastic about Brewdog's image - it feels like something you either ignore or are put off by - but presumably they exist somewhere
― thirst trap your hare (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:28 (six years ago) link
thank you aldo for your fine reportage
― mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:29 (six years ago) link
Punk IPA is pretty bog-standard "3 bottles for a fiver in Tesco Metro" stuff these days, and AFAIK, most of it is not made by Brew Dog but under licence by other big non-punk breweries.
One of their early battles was with CAMRA. Although they used to make (very good) real ale, they fell out with CAMRA (or pretended to) about something or other, and stopped, claiming their kegged, pasteurised products were far superior to cask stuff. They then went back on this, and started making it again, except they don't call it real ale, obv. they call it "Live Beer", and it's the future.
Apols if I've got any of the details wrong here, I'm not an expert.
― mahb, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 09:49 (six years ago) link
The Oatly ones all around town have been driving me up the wall
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHhBnkYXgAASKuk.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIaKeouVAAEKPJh.jpghttps://i.redd.it/mt8x2ez96piz.jpg
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:02 (six years ago) link
wankers.
― calzino, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:02 (six years ago) link
passive-aggressive advertising seems to be what the Innocent twee aesthetic is morphing into
― Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link
I mean one of the things that the craft beer thing has been really good for is providing cold beer in the 3% range that isn't pisswater so I'm fairly grateful to Dead Pony Club and the like for that.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:11 (six years ago) link
XXp I am waiting for someone to finally make a poster with a picture of the product and "will this do?" handwritten next to it, it can't be long now
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:12 (six years ago) link
Thanks for posting those now I know to avoid this product.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:12 (six years ago) link
There's some brass neck on that ad campaign seeing as literally no one in the history of the world has been "interested in an oat drink" before. I don't even know what one would be like.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:19 (six years ago) link
i'm imagining a texture like lumpy yoghurt
thanks to these ads i'm never gonna find out, that's for sure
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:22 (six years ago) link
Yes, I would probably have avoided this muck anyway because a drink made out of oats? Get tae France!
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:24 (six years ago) link
Vegan daughter loves the chocolate one as a milk alternative.
― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:29 (six years ago) link
Oat drink is fine, not lumpy, just a perfectly normal not particularly interesting drink
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link
hate2deej but there's a thread for all this
― imago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:40 (six years ago) link
Yes, it's this thread about shitty ad campaigns/packaging.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:41 (six years ago) link
fine, fine
well, my 2c: brewdog is generally extremely boring and if there are other options they should probably be taken. their marketing is kind of staid but it seems to work among the alt normies or whatever we're calling them. btw if you want level 6 beer hipster cred go to bermondsey's bottle room, i did so the other day and they have the best beer selection i've ever seen
― imago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:43 (six years ago) link
also anyone saying 'no fruit in my beer' is just embarrassing themselves. go and have a boon kriek for starters, and we'll work from there
― imago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:44 (six years ago) link
boon kriek sounds like some dastardly plan to drop michael elphick dvds on innocent londoners
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:48 (six years ago) link
Something onomatopoeic about it.
― Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:55 (six years ago) link
come to think of it, wasn't boon kriek a charli xcx song?
― faust apes (NickB), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:00 (six years ago) link
I just want to say that I’ve spent a very long time avoiding this thread, because I thought it was an ILM thing about a cutesy little record label for musicians I wouldn’t like anyway, like Sub Pop but for self-important bands from England. I had even gone so far as to imagine their irritating aesthetic, which was a cross between lo-fi Belle & Sebastian and St. Etienne. I just think you should know this.
― rb (soda), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:01 (six years ago) link
that's exactly their sound though
― imago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:03 (six years ago) link
i have a friend who swears by oat milk but i'm not sure if that's what "oat drink" actually is
tbh since we have been saying "ugh fuck you" to advertisers for as long as we have (i mean the world at large, not ilx) it doesn't really surprise me that they're saying it back
― mark s, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:04 (six years ago) link
more ukeleles
― bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:05 (six years ago) link
adverts that say "haha advertising speak is pretentious twaddle that we're deconstructing for you. until we go back to using it" are more or less the worst
― bizarrer Gandhara (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:06 (six years ago) link
tired: oat milkwired: tiger nut milk
― imago, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:07 (six years ago) link
aaaand we're back to pony cum
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:10 (six years ago) link
"it is good not bad"
― mark s, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:11 (six years ago) link
pony cum is good not bad, raves ilx poster mark s
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:12 (six years ago) link
btw if you want level 6 beer hipster cred go to bermondsey's bottle room, i did so the other day and they have the best beer selection i've ever seen
i'd rather repeatedly slam my balls in a drawer tbqh
― your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:13 (six years ago) link
I hear the bermondsey beer mile has already become colonized by stag parties. If anyone can unconfirm I'm all ears as would like to go.
― But doctor, I am Camille Paglia (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 11:20 (six years ago) link
There's some brass neck on that ad campaign seeing as literally no one in the history of the world has been "interested in an oat drink" before. I don't even know what one would be like.― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:19 (one hour ago)
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 10:19 (one hour ago)
FWIW this Costa Rican oatmeal drink http://www.chicagotribune.com/dining/ct-oatmeal-shake-irazu-20140925-20140925-story.html is one of the best things I've ever drunk.
As regards that Bermondsey beer bar, and also for whatever its worth, I find the pop-up-boxpark aesthetic even more irritating than I find the Innocent Smoothies aesthetic.
― Tim, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:16 (six years ago) link
Yeah it's fucking full of them and most of the establishments aren't exactly conducive to drinking in comfort at the best of times. (xpost)
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 12:17 (six years ago) link