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just read this short little interview here: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2018/01/feature_conquering_the_indie_mountain_with_celeste_creator_matt_makes_games

What does the future hold for Celeste?

Hopefully, a game that people remember and come back to fondly. I don't think we have any plans to create a sequel to Celeste - it really feels like we told the story we wanted to tell.

fuck yeah, that's what i'm talking about. make a perfect game, then drop the mic and go to the next one

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:51 (two years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/TheoUnderStars/

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:34 (two years ago) link

Madeleine. Celeste. Coincidence in a game about time and memory, or are there any -or any more obvious - proust references?

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:46 (two years ago) link

Wondering whether to buy this - is it fun, or is it too twitchy/tense to count as relaxing?

I've just been replaying 10,000,000 (not a platform game) but that's about as breakneck as I can handle a modern game before I stop finding it fun

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:26 (two years ago) link

As I observed, it's weirdly chill, almost zen-like, despite being so stressful. Context counts, I guess?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:33 (two years ago) link

It makes my hands sweat

It is really unbelievable how often you die on this game. And crazy that I'll pass a room first try, and then take twenty tries on my next run through it

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 18:48 (two years ago) link

the rooms are small enough and the reset times after death so quick that its not stressful really, and you feel satisfied after finally figuring out a room

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 31 January 2018 14:25 (two years ago) link

i was feeling really good about trying to 100% the game. i went back and got all the strawberries for chapters 1 and 2, completed their b-sides, recorded 0 death runthroughs (2:35 and 3:31 respectively)

but shiiiit the difficulty does ramp up a bit for chapter 3. i managed to find all the strawberries but i'm not sure i'll ever be able to do a 0 death run (which is important to me for some reason)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 01:25 (two years ago) link

Wow that's crazy

I got to the windy level and my internal rating for this game dropped from a 10/10 to an 8/10

Windy level can go fuck itself

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:47 (two years ago) link

I stopped even thinking about the strawberries on this level

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:48 (two years ago) link

windy level was my least favorite, but chapter 5 is better. and then everything to the end is just O_O (i thought)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:57 (two years ago) link

You guys are nuts. I hadn't really touched it since the day I bought it, but was playing tonight and there was one screen on chapter 1 - yes, near the very beginning - that was kicking my ass so hard I was convinced my controller was broken and was even googling known issues. Eventually I found someone on youtube, and yeah, I was literally never going to figure out this screen, but the dude's play did help me realize what I was doing wrong. For some reason either I didn't know or had forgotten that you can only dash once before landing on ground, which means you can only *jump* off things you're clinging to, not *dash* off them (right?). However, you can just jump into the void and *then* dash. Just once, though, unless you get one of those recharging things.

Anyway, I'm old and my thumbs hurt.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 03:58 (two years ago) link

"I'm old and my thumbs hurt" is what how this game is meant to make you feel

Anybody I've shown it to under 30 is like "lol you are old, we don't know how to play this kind of shit"

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:35 (two years ago) link

i finally figured out how to stream on twitch from my ps4 (i had weird microphone issues), so i'm going to work on the chapter 3 b-side in a sec. or start to figure out how to do it quickly without dying

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:35 (two years ago) link

in case anyone is incredibly bored tonight. i'm all by myself tonight and my dog has already been taken out, so this is going to be a wednesday night epiiiic stream

https://www.twitch.tv/weinventyou

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:43 (two years ago) link

Watched for a little while. Those levels look pretty hard!

DJI, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:58 (two years ago) link

they are intensely hard! room 4 of ch. 3 b-side now

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 04:58 (two years ago) link

ok WHOA, say what you want about the windy level, but the crystal heart for it is the beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest of all time. i have never thought so highly of a collectible.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 07:40 (two years ago) link

only like four strawberries in but this is very nice

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 1 February 2018 08:13 (two years ago) link

Karl, I watched yr videos (I've never watched Twitch before!), that looks intense

I think I may regrettably have to accept that, if I struggled to even beat the first boss on Shovel Knight, Celeste may not be the Game For Me

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:04 (two years ago) link

Yeah Karl has cured me of my thirst for this :/

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:16 (two years ago) link

Oh shit

I saw that crystal heart (vanilla run through) but I didn't know how to jump up to it and gave up

Whoops?

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:45 (two years ago) link

fwiw the vanilla levels are not nearly as hard as the ones karl is playing there

ciderpress, Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:57 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah, I was mainly working on the chapter 3 b-side and that was intense. It took about 500-600 deaths to get through!

Andrew I feel bad if I ruined it for you! ciderpress is right about the vanilla game not being nearly so hard. The first chapter in particular is a gem of level design, gradually teaching the skills of the game to newcomers. If I have time later tonight I’d be happy to do a leisurely chapter one strawberry hunt! I’ll let y’all know here if I do.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:15 (two years ago) link

fgti

Let’s just say that to get to it you have to think about the game’s influences. I couldn’t believe it when it actually worked!

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:17 (two years ago) link

No I get that - I am a 100%er, so I have to think about these before comitting (and anyway I have a looong backlist even in just this genre - re-united with my Wii-U after a while and I've still got Mario Galaxy 2 let alone the two Wii-U Marios and the Rayman).

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:24 (two years ago) link

oh, i gotcha. i am generally not a 100%er. i end up quitting most games long before i reach the end, let alone all the collectibles. i think i'm gonna give 100% a shot on this game a shot, but it's going to be rough.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:40 (two years ago) link

fwiw the vanilla levels are not nearly as hard as the ones karl is playing there

But they're still really hard! A lot harder than Shovel Knight.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 February 2018 15:49 (two years ago) link

Fuck I just saw a walkthrough and I literally thought "SMB3" when I saw that white box and should've tried that very thing

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:34 (two years ago) link

Godammit this game is very clever and good

flamboyant goon tie included, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:34 (two years ago) link

Beat chapter 8 last night, some great new mechanics in that level

Karl when will u stream again

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:36 (two years ago) link

oh man, i still haven't even gotten access to chapter 8! i only have 2 of the crystal hearts.

i might actually have a go this afternoon! so far i have all the strawberries in the first 4 chapters, and the b-sides for the first 3. working on the b-side for the 4th. i was also able to record zero-death runs for the first three chapters, but i'm not sure if i'll ever be able to do it for chapter 4. shit is hard.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:39 (two years ago) link

on a related note, the music for the 4th chapter b-side is my favorite of the game so far.

if i had more energy and willpower and research and writing abilities i would write an enormous essay on endlessly looping music, including stuff like hold music for insurance companies but primarily as it's used in video games. the ch. 4 b-side theme is not the best example of what i'm thinking because it is more of just a really long kickass song with identifiable movements that is made to seamlessly loop. but sometimes in other games i'll enter the pause menu, or the title screen, and spend some time appreciating the really thoughtful loop that someone has created for the purpose. it is it's own genre, i think, and it deserves more recognition.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:44 (two years ago) link

fyi after you complete all the regular levels and b sides you unlock golden strawberries which you get from deathless runs, idk if they're retroactive so you might want to hold off on those

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:45 (two years ago) link

oh shit, thank you! i will hold off on attempting deathless runs for the rest of the chapters, then.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:47 (two years ago) link

are you working on 100% completing the game ciderpress? how far are you?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:47 (two years ago) link

I'm not going for 100% anytime soon, haven't finished the b sides yet

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:48 (two years ago) link

Karl what's your twitch name?

I don't have the means to stream myself, but if I could i'd totally kick the shit out of link to the past for y'all

Evan, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:51 (two years ago) link

i am weinventyou on twitch

and yeah, that would be awesome! i have gotten 3/4 of the way through LTTP so many times, but never beaten it ;_;

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:55 (two years ago) link

evan if you ever have questions about the streaming stuff, just let me know. i am very much an amateur but i struggled through a lot of technical issues when i first started and might be able to point you in the right direction at least.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 16:56 (two years ago) link

streaming pc games is simple, i have no clue how to stream from a switch though

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:02 (two years ago) link

i assume you need a video card that has hdmi in, which mine doesn't

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:04 (two years ago) link

at least on ps4, streaming is built into it - i just hit the share button, connect it to my twitch, and i'm pretty much ready to go. not sure about switch > twitch, though

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:14 (two years ago) link

streaming pc games is simple

i found streaming mac games to be not nearly as simple as i thought it would be, although i am also a bumbling fool in general. my biggest issue was with sound, specifically with routing the correct audio channels to the stream while still being able to hear everything locally. it sounds like it would be easy but for me it involved a combo of OBS, wavtap, soundflower, and multi-output settings in my sound preferences

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:20 (two years ago) link

ah I only have experience with windows that must be it

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:22 (two years ago) link

evan if you ever have questions about the streaming stuff, just let me know. i am very much an amateur but i struggled through a lot of technical issues when i first started and might be able to point you in the right direction at least.

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:56 AM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I appreciate that! My main deterrent is that my wife would probably get really worried that I was starting to go down some alarming LTTP speed running rabbit hole. We're fascinated and horrified by some of the career streamers we see grinding games for 6+ hours straight. Just seems unhealthy. Of course I wouldn't do that, nor is it inevitable. The closest I've come to streaming was sharing my screen during a skype call so a friend overseas could watch me play a LTTP randomizer.

Evan, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 17:30 (two years ago) link

ok, working on ch4 b-side now

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:45 (two years ago) link

You guys are total pros. I have hit two points in the first chapter or whatever - Forbidden City? - that have totally stumped me. The first I had to figure out by watching some online play through, this second one ... I hope it doesn't come to that, but I have no idea how to even leave the screen I'm on. Found my first b-side cassette, though.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:20 (two years ago) link

i keep thinking i have reached the end of the b-side, and there's another screen

cloud jump/boost mechanics are always my achilles heel, ever since SMB3, so the stages which depend on them are total nightmares for me

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:46 (two years ago) link

OK, took me about 3 hours and almost 1000 deaths ... to finish the first chapter! With just 6 strawberries, too. On the other hand, I did it!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 February 2018 17:14 (two years ago) link

So you’re hinting that you didn’t enjoy the game

Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Monday, 23 September 2019 14:09 (ten months ago) link

I never understood how it got so much hype

brain dead operatus (FlopsyDuck), Monday, 23 September 2019 15:05 (ten months ago) link

Sorry I guess. It’s probably my favorite game of all time, if such a thing is meaningful.

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 23 September 2019 15:12 (ten months ago) link

As someone who gave up/set it aside pretty early on, but still appreciated what I played, I think it's because it's a super-challenging platformer that isn't based on lucky bullshit, just perseverance. But I think more importantly, those rapid respawns are key. If it took just another few milliseconds to try again, people would have been pissed. (fwiw despite Hollow Knight being a personal all-time fave, I never pursued the harder post-game levels, because like Celeste I ultimately find that stuff more frustrating than fun, even when the game looks gorgeous.)

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 September 2019 15:14 (ten months ago) link

It's crazy how much work the developers must have done to create content that's only going to be seen (outside of cheats and youtube videos) by very few ultra-skilled players. I beat the game, but almost all of the B-sides, all of the C-sides and all of Chapter 9 are just impossible for me--and for a lot of other people like me, I think. I'm not complaining, though! It's just amazing that they've put so much effort into the margins

Dan I., Monday, 23 September 2019 15:58 (ten months ago) link

you can turn on assist mode if you want to see it!

7B was a journey

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 23 September 2019 16:07 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

I just started playing the game and finished the first two chapters... Can anyone tell me, without spoiling too much, does anything actually happen if you collect all the strawberries? Or all the crystal hearts? Or are they there just so you can brag about having found all of them?

Tuomas, Friday, 1 November 2019 14:27 (nine months ago) link

The game explicitly tells you that you don’t have to collect the strawberries.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 1 November 2019 15:12 (nine months ago) link

Yeah, I know, but I was wondering whether collecting them unlocks some extra content or something.

Tuomas, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:31 (nine months ago) link

strawberries are completely optional. there's a bonus level that needs some hearts to unlock but you don't need all of them iirc.

ciderpress, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:33 (nine months ago) link

Thanks!

Tuomas, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:36 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

Chapter 9 is a motherfucker. Haven’t messed with the b-sides but I’m sure I’ll get there before the end of the holiday.

circa1916, Thursday, 26 December 2019 03:10 (seven months ago) link

And there are C-Sides? Curious how the difficulty stacks up against Chapter 9, which I am struggling with but chipping away at. Undeniably great platformer, really keeps me coming back.

circa1916, Thursday, 26 December 2019 03:16 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sJkEWlyk74

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 June 2020 19:09 (one month ago) link

I’m on chapter 2 of this and it’s GREAT, actual sweaty palms stuff, got both bsides but few strawberries, but sometimes you just can’t be fucked, you know?

scampos mentis (gyac), Tuesday, 16 June 2020 10:06 (one month ago) link

likewise hooked on this, so many indelible touches around pretty flawless level design. 100% strawberries so far

devvvine, Tuesday, 16 June 2020 16:13 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

Got back into playing this. Wasn't 100% feeling this but now I've got to Oshiro's hotel, I'm loving it.
However, I have a bad habit of getting really far, then rage quitting and forgetting to save my game!
All the same, it's wonderful how you can spend ages and ages and ages simply trying to get past the first obstacle on a screen, and then suddenly it comes so naturally you can do the whole thing in one fluid motion. Reminds me of learning a tricky piece on an instrument.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:26 (one month ago) link

I cannot be bothered with most strawberries though

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:26 (one month ago) link

Yeah it's a satisfying feeling, like you just gained a new skill in life, have you tried 1001 Spikes? It's full of that sort of experience. Dick rippingly frustrating mind.

Two Meter Peter (Ste), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 12:29 (one month ago) link

Oh man the strawberries in the hotel are what put me off the game!

AxoLOLtl (Leee), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 17:54 (one month ago) link

Also I do not understand B-sides, and have only found one so far.

AxoLOLtl (Leee), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 17:54 (one month ago) link

b-sides unlock another version of that level that is EVEN HARDER!

(there's also c-sides)

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:19 (one month ago) link

:D strawberries are my favorite part of the game. they're totally optional! they're similar to modern day marios where every level has a handful of yoshi coins that really are more just for completionists

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:20 (one month ago) link

also LOVE the strawberries. i had to get every last one. they are optional and don’t amount to much in the end but encourage you to explore and really get familiar with each stage.

i tapped out on the c-sides a while ago and now i feel old and out of shape. booted up the new DLC from earlier this year and that was a rude awakening to be sure.

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Tuesday, 7 July 2020 18:33 (one month ago) link


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