EZRA KLEIN v MATT YGLESIAS

disappointed that felix salmon is leaving reuters for some new bullshit thats 'post-text'

― just sayin, Saturday, 26 April 2014 06:54 (three years ago) Permalink

lol

this fucking dweeb

The message is simple: Joe Biden likes you. He likes you even if you don’t like him.

If that sounds trite, consider the contrast it offers to the reality we live in, and the politics President Trump practices. https://t.co/8II1Kln2ID

— Ezra Klein (@ezraklein) August 21, 2020

This is strictly about campaigning, Klein acknowledges in the piece that this man for all seasons shit isn’t a viable strategy for governing.

feel like Matty has been on some wild bad takes as of late

wait, milo, you started Best American Pundit 2020 even though this thread already exists?

I don't even have to read the piece, but I agree with Ezra's tweet

This one didn't show up when I searched back then for some reason - Googled both their names this time instead of just the Ez

Ezra's Tweet and column are nonsense.

"The core of Joe Biden’s politics is his talent at fulfilling the simplest of political and emotional needs: Joe Biden likes you. That was the message of this convention, and it’s the message that has always been at the core of his politics." - this is the guy who will literally tell you to vote for someone else if you express displeasure with him!!!

the tweet is fine

I unironically love twitter but it’s honestly embarrassing how people get spun up over policy fads (abolish ICE! defund police!) only to forget about them seven weeks later.

— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) October 21, 2020

"let's get to one billion americans" didn't even reach the status of "policy fad" lol

sad

dear matthew yglesias,

with all due respect, please eat a bag of dicks. thank you.

Aimless

Truly the happiest time of the year — Open Enrollment Season! — when Americans get to enjoy the freedom™ to choose our own insurance plan.

Comparing monthly premiums to annual deductibles is fun!

— Matthew Yglesias 🍦 (@mattyglesias) November 11, 2020

Matt made a good post!!!!

he goes through periods where he seems like a normal reasonable online liberal guy but then doesnt get enough attention and so returns to his horrible ways

who among us etc

loool

I’ve been wanting for some time to reclaim what I had in my blog days as an independent voice, and a great opportunity has arisen for me to do that on Substack where today I’m launching a new site that you can find and read all about here:https://t.co/hwxPOtHsHm

— Matthew Yglesias 🍦 (@mattyglesias) November 13, 2020

An independent voice for independent terrible ideas.

And of course, this asshole weighs in:

Another independent thinker quits a website he co-founded. The woke claim another scalp. https://t.co/Ikl4BPGwHG

— Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) November 13, 2020

As someone said, Sullivan's been fired so many times he can't comprehend the idea that someone might leave a job voluntarily.

lol did he even read the thread

Parting is always bittersweet and I’ll miss so many colleagues so very much but I’m looking forward to really telling everyone what’s on my mind to an even greater extent than I do now :)

— Matthew Yglesias 🍦 (@mattyglesias) November 13, 2020

1. Scoop: Ezra Klein is leaving Vox per three sources familiar with his plans. https://t.co/F5H4190gSr

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) November 20, 2020

Three sources familiar with his plans tell me he is likely to join the New York Times under their opinion section.

https://www.nytco.com/press/ezra-klein-joins-times-opinion-as-columnist-and-podcast-host/

goofus has to go to the shithole email startup, gallant gets to defend the status quo at the paper of record

it's not quite press secretary though is it

goofus has to go to the shithole email startup, gallant gets to defend the status quo at the paper of record

:]

damn rip vox

been enjoying slow boring. not gonna start paying for it tho. idg the substack model. i pay like 5$ a month for nyt and the idea is wed each pay a similar amount per shitty op-ed writer?

i liked the og vox explain the news concept, feel like it instantly turned to clickbait tho and also the website looks like a piece of shit

substack is OnlyFans for wonking instead of wanking

i am legit Old etc but idgi

how is substack different from tinyletter or tumblr or otherwise bcc-ing a shitload of people?

who are these people paying actual money to read GG or matty blogs?

(explain podcast money here too while you're at it pls)

Podcasts have adverts in them and/or some or all of the episodes are only made available to people who pay a subscription

There’s also venture capital and incumbent content company money pits but as an independent the model tends to be to put out a free episode that is good, and then a worse bonus episode that is less work to make to your Patreon backers

Remains to be seen if a real number of people pay money to read GG/Yglesias. With the former it seemed like a lashing out of ego with nowhere else to go, Matty might be happy to make lunch money blogging and his real income via books/podcasts/other media.

Greenwald has a p big fan base. not sure if yglesias can pull it off tho. i looked into it tho and so far u pay to comment? lol

i understand a subscription model! just not why these particular people are worth it -- what are they offering that cannot be had free?

If you really enjoyed Greenwald's reporting on Bolsonaro or natsec or whatever, or Taibbi on Wall Street, it might be worth tipping them a Starbucks a month as a show of support plus you get a couple of posts.

Taibbi is clearly pulling in enough money to make this route attractive to others

ngl as someone who has been saying things like “bring blogs back” for the last 5 years i actually like substack quite a bit. before sullivan taibbi and greenwald all angrily resigned and it got a reputation as the platform for bad boy anti wokeists, the mailing lists i was subscribed to were (1) an economic historian writing about the lives of inventors in 18-19th c europe (2) rap blogger andrew noz (who retired his substack last week when it stopped being cool) (3) a labor lawyer (4) online friend who does the hipster variant of post-keynesian economics mixed with anime and psychoanalysis (5) leftist tech guy (hasn’t posted in a while, i followed cus of max read recommend). it’s kind of annoying that they go to my email instead of rss but it’s pretty cool to see ppl writing longer form stuff, im getting p tired of twitter threads

Taibbi is still a Rolling Stone regular, seems like substack might be his outlet for things that can’t go to the day job.

If the piece on the Chicago PD that's on the site right now is any indication, they really don't need him for anything and would be better off cutting ties.

FYI flopson you can get an RSS feed of any Substack, just put /feed after the domain. Doesn't work for paid posts though.

if you're gonna call something "slow boring" it better be really good which is why i think it might not have been a great choice

yeah slow and deep is not really the matty g brand lol

ya awful name

Slow Boring: A Podcast About The Band Low

being unshackled from Vox certainly seems to have made Matty's takes even shittier. i'm also reminded of the fact that I heard him on Ezra's podcast relatively recently and I guess I had largely managed to avoid hearing Yglesias's voice in the past, but holy shit, not to nerd-shame, but I think if I sounded like he does I consign myself exclusively to the written word

lol yeah his voice is...a lot

could be a consequence of (apparently) lacking a neck