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is the latest SFV "arcade edition" good? all these editions I can't keep my head straight
I would love a marvel v capcom w/ xmen but I guess the dumb fox/sony thing is at play here? I will wait
kinda tempted by Injustice 2 even though I don't like the DC universe as much

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 28 January 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link

SFV AE is what the game should've been at launch. Has the 12 extra characters from Seasons 1 and 2 (a third one just started), arcade mode, story mode. Feel safe in getting that.

MvC:I is fun but pretty barebones. Also kind of a failure commercially because of many reasons, seems to be dying. Hoping to pick up a complete edition with all the characters/skins if it ever comes out, but there's a chance this could play out like SFxT and never get it

I love the hell out of the Injustice games, but to each his own

Get DBZ, and took a look at UNIST which is about to finally get over here

Nhex, Sunday, 28 January 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

Thanks!

droit au butt (Euler), Sunday, 28 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link

I watched a lot of the EVO Japan SFV tournament. It was pretty entertaining, especially the pools. Abigail and Menat have added some needed diversity to the game.

adam the (abanana), Monday, 29 January 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link

any ILXORs playing SFV? I'd like some friends to battle!

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Sunday, 11 February 2018 10:13 (six years ago) link

i don't play that much now, but if you're on PS4 hit me up: n-hex

Nhex, Monday, 12 February 2018 00:37 (six years ago) link

I'm RumTum in PS4 SFV. Playstation name is greendat but I don't often play other fighting games.

adam the (abanana), Monday, 12 February 2018 06:41 (six years ago) link

thanks guys, will give you a shout later...

Thomas NAGL (Neil S), Monday, 12 February 2018 07:21 (six years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/O3quT0d.jpgI 100% approve of this

Nhex, Monday, 12 February 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

auction tournament for SF 30th Anniversary Collection

https://youtu.be/SxvGhTsB7iY?t=1h36m38s

adam the (abanana), Saturday, 26 May 2018 11:34 (five years ago) link

eight months pass...

wow, SonicFox is only 20? damn these kids are young, feels like he's been around forever. good for him though

Nhex, Thursday, 14 February 2019 00:25 (five years ago) link

I think 2d fighting games could learn a thing or two from Smash. What I had in mind was stage design. A gradual slope here and there. A stage on top a train that makes moving one direction a little slower and the other a little faster. Maybe a wooden raft stage that tilts up and down. All of this effecting hitboxes etc. Non-tourney levels could be more far out. I imagine an alley scene with climbable props like a dumpster and those metal fire ecscape platforms which you can use new hanging attacks.

٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 14 February 2019 01:02 (five years ago) link

have you watched smash tournaments? they ban virtually everything. https://www.ssbwiki.com/Stage_legality

the one stage in SFV that has a bit of water on one side is banned, not because it changes the physics at all, but because it's harder to see low projectiles on that side.

adam the (abanana), Thursday, 14 February 2019 03:10 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I've watched them. I've seen some tournaments allow Castle Siege and that slope is much steeper than anything I had in mind.
https://www.ssbwiki.com/File:SSBU-Castle_Siege.png.

Smash is very different though. Most stages have floating platforms and that doesn't really work with a Street Fighter 2 style fighter.

٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 14 February 2019 14:05 (five years ago) link

Other stage obstacles could be an ice floor with a little bit of a sliding effect and vice versa for a sand floor.

٩༼ º෴º ༽۶ (FlopsyDuck), Thursday, 14 February 2019 14:13 (five years ago) link

Here is the official lineup for #Evo2019 ! pic.twitter.com/wgZrwXTGF3

— EVO (@EVO) February 27, 2019

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 04:07 (five years ago) link

really good lineup, excited to see UNIST get a spotlight as it's a great game to watch. also happy that samsho is apparently coming out soon

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 04:09 (five years ago) link

didn't even realize a new SamSho was coming out. cool to see BBxtag and UNIST for sure

Nhex, Wednesday, 27 February 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R0hbe8HZj0

everything you need to know to understand fighting games in 15 minutes

don't normally care for this guy's vids much but this one is really well done

ciderpress, Saturday, 18 May 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

Button mashing was a frequent complaint about Soul Calibur and Tekken characters like Eddy Gordo. Beginners often beat good experienced players (but not the best players).

Surprised to see no mention of Virtua Fighter, which is hopeless for beginners to win and has very little satisfaction for button mashing players (probably why it isn't as popular). Experience is always rewarded in Virtua Fighter.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:48 (four years ago) link

VF is criminally neglected in the west, probably because its original home release was on the saturn

chihuahuau, Saturday, 18 May 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

Possibly, but if there's something I've known people to criticize about Virtua Fighter, it's that it's never had particularly compelling character designs. The character movements were also somewhat robotic, maybe that's why it was such a precise game.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 18 May 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

Even though I used to be quite a fighting game enthusiast, I never got the record straight on how deep the gameplay was in Dead Or Alive, which was quite button-mash friendly but some people said it could be taken to deeper levels, but I don't recall there being many expert players/tournament popularity.
Reviewers often contrasted Itagaki's Ninja Gaiden games with his supposedly much simpler Dead Or Alive games.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 18 May 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

I certainly found Soul Calibur and Dead Or Alive less engaging because I felt I didn't need to put in as much attention to my inputs. But eventually Virtua Fighter got more demanding than I could deal with. It was annoying that the character Akira required such incredible precision.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 18 May 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

played a bit of the granblue fantasy versus beta - it's alright, weird to play an arcsys game that's got a slower street fighter like pace to it

ciderpress, Friday, 31 May 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

Seen trailer of new Samurai Shodown. Looks so much like a modern Capcom game, they certainly put more into the graphics than the recent King Of Fighters. The "ghost" practice gimmick is a good idea, don't know if fighting games have done that before?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 31 May 2019 16:16 (four years ago) link

the killer instinct reboot had it i think

ciderpress, Friday, 31 May 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link

SFV was supposed to have this sort of data-driven stuff, never came to pass

Nhex, Friday, 31 May 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Badly presented video but there's some funny ones in here. Only one I hadn't heard of is the vehicle one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TWkmjgb6Vo
Surprised the Power Instinct series isn't in there.

It's not wacky but I think Dark Edge is one of the most unique looking fighting games.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/dark-edge/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24qpp_7mqNU

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 July 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link

that DOES look crazy!

Nhex, Sunday, 28 July 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

So George Clinton is coming to Tekken: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-08-05-tekken-7-gets-a-brand-new-character-called-leroy-smith

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Monday, 5 August 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link

I was hoping that you were being literal

https://i.imgur.com/E7SyqBY.jpg

adam the (abanana), Monday, 5 August 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link

excited for new guilty gear, have wanted to learn it for a while but waiting for the next full version up

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link

ehh. i don't really see a huge difference in the trailer from the current GG. but i'm sure it'll be good, Arc has been consistent

Nhex, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link

visually it's just a gen-up of the same artstyle yeah but they've talked about planning to streamline the mechanics and such

ciderpress, Wednesday, 7 August 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

i didn't even really watch evo this year other than UNIST because i was mad that they let Infiltration back in

ciderpress, Wednesday, 14 August 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

I watched the EVO Japan SFV tournament (on youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/user/evo2kvids/videos ). The new balance patch has made a lot of characters viable. A character I had written off ended up winning. It's made the game the most interesting it's been since Menat and Abigail came out.

wasdnuos (abanana), Sunday, 26 January 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

A shame that the (real life) tournament players sometimes have a ton of arrogance and all this trash talking and screwing with each others heads is expected. Probably a lot of players who could thrive if it wasn't like this.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 12 April 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

It's always there to some extent, but in my experience I've felt far more positivity and kinship in the FGC than in most gaming cultures. There will always be a few who take competition to the Kobe psychopath level though...

Nhex, Sunday, 12 April 2020 20:45 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

Been playing some Fantasy Strike lately, as it went Free-to-Play recently. Gives you all the characters, practice and online modes; you pay $20 if you want Arcade Mode and the ability to match with friends. It's pretty solid, I like that it's very distilled and simplified. (Maybe too simplified for an old head like me) Definitely fun to see their interpretations of existing FG characters, like Geiger/Guile, Rook/Zangief, Setsuki/Ibuki, etc.

It also does a lot of things right I wish all fighting games these days would incorporate: cross-platform play (PC/PS4/Switch), rollback netcode, and great tutorial videos explaining exactly how each character is basically supposed to work. Worth a peek for anyone who likes the genre, especially if you find modern games to be overwhelming with the inputs.

Nhex, Wednesday, 26 August 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

Ryan "gootecks" Gutierrez (fgc commentator; pogchamp icon) is now a hydroxychloroquine conspiracy theorist.

wasdnous (abanana), Wednesday, 26 August 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

yeah, makes sense.... he was always a bit of a huckster

Nhex, Thursday, 27 August 2020 00:07 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Buckley landed literal tekken shit last night pic.twitter.com/4fECvGQ2YS

— creepy slowed down version of an upbeat song (@high_light) October 11, 2020

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 17 October 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

haha nice

Nhex, Saturday, 17 October 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

In this little twitter thread here, I'm going to show some appreciation to Virtua Fighter's amazing throw animations. Starting with Masato Tanaka's Diamond Dust. I especially love the way the opponent animates standing back up and staggers around a bit before falling down. pic.twitter.com/YXgxLHmp0g

— Manny Biggz (@Mannyfcknking) December 7, 2020

chihuahuau, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

The dream SNK and CAPCOM collaboration title that can fit in your hands is coming to the Nintendo Switch!

SNK VS CAPCOM: MATCH OF THE MILLENIUM launched on the NEOGEO POCKET COLOR back in 1999, and now it will be available to download on the Nintendo eShop Feb, 17th PST! #SVC pic.twitter.com/QzIWTghzy6

— SNK GLOBAL (@SNKPofficial) February 5, 2021

chihuahuau, Friday, 5 February 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

The revival of these old NGPC games is not something I expected in recent times, but welcome all the same

Nhex, Friday, 5 February 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

I forgot about that trend of drawing massive hands.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 5 February 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link


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