she was laughing while recounting it, she is an evil person
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link
but the classic Greek "doomed to fail" definition is not the same as the more colloquial "something sad and bad has happened to someone" definition.
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link
Sorry I don't know the bbcode to make text much much larger
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
On what planet is Clinton the face or leader of the resistance or metoo movement.
― Yerac, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
"she was laughing while recounting it, she is an evil person" this has been widely covered and your take on it is wrong, dude
― akm, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:21 (six years ago) link
god, this shit again, did you even read the rest of the article you quoted from, which explains exactly what she was laughing about? Do you understand what lawyers do, and the rights of every defendant, no matter how loathsome, to have a lawyer? Totally awesome that you're repeating the same disingenuous talking points beloved by every MAGA CHUD.
― JoeStork, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
lol you people are all full of shit
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
but like... did you and do you
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
jesus christ adam
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
once again my lyft driver who started off bitching about clinton and maddow and eventually asked me if i had heard of pizzagate comes to mind. male psychosis is a real thing
― maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link
I hope Adam has earned a shitload of FPs for whatever the fuck he thought he was accomplishing here
dumbass
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link
I think at this point, given her history and people's personal feelings toward her, a good faith conversation is just not possible
― k3vin k., Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
no I think rational people in a good mental state could still have one but there's not many rational people and most of them have been stressed the fuck out for over a year now
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link
i strongly dislike hillary clinton but adam's opinion of her criminal defense work is such a bad one
― assawoman bay (harbl), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link
WHAT'S TRUEIn 1975, young lawyer Hillary Rodham was appointed to represent a defendant charged with raping a 12-year-old girl. Clinton reluctantly took on the case, which ended with a plea bargain for the defendant, and later chuckled about some aspects of the case when discussing it years later.https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
https://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-freed-child-rapist-laughed-about-it/
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link
i know im being so mean calling out this person for doing something they actually did
and once again adam shits his pants live on ilx and we all get to watch and slam our own foreheads in sympathy
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link
she actually did represent a person competently? and he pleaded guilty? ok
― assawoman bay (harbl), Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link
That, and she cackled about the fact that he went free, as the snopes article Adam definitely read all the way thru and understood clearly says
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
Finally, Hillary didn’t “free” the defendant in the case. Instead, the prosecuting attorney agreed to a plea deal involving a lesser charge that carried a five-year sentence, of which the judge suspended four years and allowed two months credit of time already served towards the remaining year:
pretty lenient sentencing! i imagine her being friends w the judge who initially requested her had an impact on this sentence. as for the plea bargin:
The victim says it was her mother, who had recently been abandoned by her husband, who pushed for a quick plea deal to avoid the humiliation of having her daughter testify in open court. The mother, who died several years ago, was so eager to end the ordeal she coached her daughter’s statements and interrupted interviews with police, Sgt. Dale Gibson (the department’s lead investigator) recalls.“We both wanted it to be over with,” the victim told Newsday. “They kept asking me the same questions over and over. I was crying all the time.”
“We both wanted it to be over with,” the victim told Newsday. “They kept asking me the same questions over and over. I was crying all the time.”
this is appalling.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link
stop
― k3vin k., Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link
Eight years later, in 2016, the UK’s Daily Mail identified the victim (who had previously spoken anonymously to the Daily Beast) as Kathy Shelton and quoted her as saying that she “cannot forgive Hillary Clinton for defending her rapist” and that she was unaware for many years that Hillary Clinton was the person who had represented the defendant in her case:‘It’s put a lot of anger back in me,’ said Shelton, now 54, in an exclusive interview at her Springdale, Arkansas, home. ‘Every time I see (Clinton) on TV I just want to reach in there and grab her, but I can’t do that.’For decades, Shelton said she had no idea that Clinton was the same woman as the lawyer who defended her rapist in 1975.
‘It’s put a lot of anger back in me,’ said Shelton, now 54, in an exclusive interview at her Springdale, Arkansas, home. ‘Every time I see (Clinton) on TV I just want to reach in there and grab her, but I can’t do that.’
For decades, Shelton said she had no idea that Clinton was the same woman as the lawyer who defended her rapist in 1975.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
It's appalling to use a real person's trauma as a prop to grind your stupid axe on
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
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― ♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
i guess if you get accused of rape get a lawyer who won't try too hard
― assawoman bay (harbl), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link
http://is5.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Music118/v4/68/ba/d6/68bad65a-5f05-f2fd-06f3-85226e4dd329/source/600x600bb.jpg
― Men's Scarehouse - "You're gonna like the way you're shook." (m bison), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:12 (six years ago) link
going back a ways here but, adam, i just want to clarify that i do think what happened to that child is worse than what hillary has endured by the media, obviously, and that's not the definition of tragedy i was using. i thought i made it clear but i want to be explicit so you don't think i am a monster.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:14 (six years ago) link
We should have a Times Squares-esque FP countdown for shit like this.
― louise ck (milo z), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link
Idk he is being over the top but let’s leave him alone. It’s just coming from a place of despair and anger at the leadership class of this country and what a trash heap they’ve turned it into
― treeship 2, Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link
i think we should leave him alone so he stops talking about it but despair and anger is not an excuse to be wrong
― assawoman bay (harbl), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:51 (six years ago) link
It’s not, you’re right. And he is wrong. But I just take no joy in pile ons these days.
― treeship 2, Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:56 (six years ago) link
it's good he has an advocate like you to defend him
― while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:57 (six years ago) link
lol
― assawoman bay (harbl), Saturday, 27 January 2018 23:59 (six years ago) link
! i imagine her being friends w the judge who initially requested her had an impact on this sentenceFor ten points please circle the key word in this sentence. HINTS: It begins with "i" but is not "I."
― Millennial Whoop, wanna fight about it? (Phil D.), Sunday, 28 January 2018 00:24 (six years ago) link
classic
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 28 January 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link
I do enjoy when my libertarian/green party friends randomly post an anti-Hillary meme on fb to absolutely no comments or likes. It's like their fart in the wind to remind us that Trump isn't their fault.
― Yerac, Sunday, 28 January 2018 00:47 (six years ago) link
hard to think of a more definitive dud that isn't actually a wet firework or the maginot line
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 28 January 2018 00:49 (six years ago) link
this thread revive rules
― flappy bird, Sunday, 28 January 2018 01:57 (six years ago) link
more on this thing if you hate yourself
https://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/hillary-clinton-let-him-stay-women-say-his-harassment?utm_term=.nokB7Bl23V#.vr80A0EOp4
― Simon H., Sunday, 28 January 2018 14:31 (six years ago) link
it's the least important part of this story but yes of course the Democrats' well-compensated go-to Faith Adviser is a white Southern Baptist and not a representative of the many religious communities that actually support Democrats— slackbot (@pareene) January 28, 2018
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 28 January 2018 14:52 (six years ago) link
I did wonder about that. (Actually, my first thought was "why tf does a Presidential candidate need a 'faith advisor'?")
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:09 (six years ago) link
it's just so unbelievably on-brand it hurts
― constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:13 (six years ago) link
― very stabbable gaius (wins), Sunday, 28 January 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link
Also true of every post in this thread.
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 28 January 2018 22:16 (six years ago) link
Thoughtful people often display a consistent character. It's not a bad thing really. Totally unpredictable people are exhausting.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 28 January 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link
Thoughtful people often display a consistent character.
Morbius and Bruneau, too!
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 28 January 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link
I say nothing about the quality of the thoughts. All those militia types who carry pocket constitutions show themselves to be thoughtful people, too. At least with thoughtful people you can figure out who you are dealing with and act accordingly.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 29 January 2018 05:45 (six years ago) link
sorry, i have no idea who/what the subject of this thread is. #TheRealUnperson
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 January 2018 14:37 (six years ago) link
it's emails iirc
― j., Monday, 29 January 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
cantaloupes and ballastics
― President Keyes, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:02 (six years ago) link