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jfc guys, hillary clinton does not get a free pass for making a poor decision just because 90 percent of the things the media say about her are stupid, and it was not wrong of the NYT to report on this. if you disagree, ask yourself how you'd feel if the story were literally any other politician choosing not to fire a top adviser who'd sexually harassed someone.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:14 (six years ago) link

Yeah, you missed the point of what Maura was saying.

Yerac, Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:17 (six years ago) link

yeah thanks for missing the point dude. hope you’re as hard on baquet. or any other number of men who also engaged in “shielding” but who haven’t been deemed the demon beast by right wing types.

maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:19 (six years ago) link

i’m fine with more reporting on this. but the wealth could maybe be spread to people who are actually in office??

maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link

sorry i "missed the point," i guess, but i think thrush should have been fired too and i have no problem condemning the nyt for not doing that

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 27 January 2018 21:25 (six years ago) link

yeah well maybe you should take a second and think about why the times might investigate clinton instead of *gestures at lots of men*

maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:06 (six years ago) link

clinton derangement syndrome is real and at least some of its causes are intimately involved with all of the other shit in this thread

maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:07 (six years ago) link

my guess as to why the times might investigate clinton is because she's very famous and positions herself as a defender of women's rights, so a story about how she failed a victim of sexual harassment might have some relevance

this does not negate any of your other, valid points tho of course

k3vin k., Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:22 (six years ago) link

discrediting a private citizen who lost an election a year plus ago just seems a bit fishy timing wise but what do i know

maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link

(and who’s a woman)

(like i know the man bites dog aspect but come on)

maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link

anyway wynn is building a casino here in MA and the gaming commission has announced an investigation of him

maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link

nicole eggert has been tweeting a lot about how her former CHARLES IN CHARGE costar scott baio took advantage of her as a teen

Ask @scottbaio what happened in his garage at his house when I was a minor. Creep. https://t.co/YrQydBKd0a

— Nicole Eggert (@NicoleEggert) January 27, 2018

maura, Saturday, 27 January 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link

Didn't Erin Moran at least hint at some awfulness re: Baio? Or am I misremembering?

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 January 2018 00:31 (six years ago) link

i don’t remember but i found this while looking

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-entertainment-news-updates-april-scott-baio-amends-callous-comments-made-1493133783-htmlstory.html

Facing criticism for his comments, Baio first took to Twitter to build his defense on the fact that he said "if you use drugs and alcohol," before moving on to blame critics for only hating him because of his support for the president.

🙄

maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 03:49 (six years ago) link

three more women have come out with allegations against jeremy piven

https://www.buzzfeed.com/krystieyandoli/jeremy-piven-sexual-misconduct-allegations-follow-up

maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

I am reading Scott Baio's response to Eggert and he is only burying himself further.

Yerac, Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:04 (six years ago) link

Seems like the MAGA goons are defending him full force

President Keyes, Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:31 (six years ago) link

Well, yeah. How can America get great again without Scott Baio?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:50 (six years ago) link

i mean they pretty much have shown that they’re ok with whatever happens to women as long as they can cling by their fingernails to whatever power they still have

maura, Sunday, 28 January 2018 16:05 (six years ago) link

^^ otm ^^

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 28 January 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

HRC just responded to the NYT story:

https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/posts/1811310308925490

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link

Alex Press in Vox (!) on "carceral feminism"

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/2/1/16952744/me-too-larry-nassar-judge-aquilina-feminism

Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 14:09 (six years ago) link

Leaping off that article to the below, which is one of the saddest things I have read recently. I seriously did not know how bad sex trafficking is in the US where men are paying to have sex with children because they just can't pass up an opportunity that presents itself??? And that the justice system has no real way to prosecute them when the victims are traumatized/abused children who are unreliable witnesses and it's hard to prove that the men didn't know they were underaged.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/nation-now/2018/01/30/sex-trafficking-column/1073459001/

Yerac, Thursday, 1 February 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link

Upenn revoking honorary degrees from Steve Wynn and, in a timely fashion, Bill Cosby.

President Keyes, Thursday, 1 February 2018 17:39 (six years ago) link

In future all honorary degrees will be rigged to self-destruct (triggered remotely by the university's board, as needed).

I'm my own emotional support animal (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 1 February 2018 18:58 (six years ago) link

they can't all be upstanding citizens who not only coach and win a lot of games involving a leather ball but also have enough time to shield a child molester.

omar little, Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

that sex trafficking piece is in a tight race with the Splinter health care piece from yesterday for upsetting stories, yes

Simon H., Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:03 (six years ago) link

please revoke every degree given to james franco

infinity (∞), Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:04 (six years ago) link

v weird seeing stuff with franco that was taped before the golden globes still going up weeks later. mainly thinking of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egzvLWeMK_U&

flappy bird, Thursday, 1 February 2018 19:28 (six years ago) link

Robert Wagner. i hold out hope that one of these mf'ing men admit to what they have done.

Yerac, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link

i hope my alma mater does the same with cosby, who received his degree the year i got my bachelors

maura, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:24 (six years ago) link

wagner? are we talking about natlie wood?

akm, Thursday, 1 February 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link

i was a little glum earlier when i thought they were talking about james garner rather than robert wagner

j., Friday, 2 February 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link

Alex Press in Vox (!) on "carceral feminism"

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/2/1/16952744/me-too-larry-nassar-judge-aquilina-feminism

― Simon H., Thursday, February 1, 2018 9:09 AM

interesting article. I think most reasonable people would agree that we should be cautious about throwing more people in jail as a result of expanding definitions of gendered offenses, but it doesn’t really seem like that is imminent here in the US. for now the biggest issue seems to be creating an environment where women feel safe reporting crimes committed against them

k3vin k., Friday, 2 February 2018 13:56 (six years ago) link

that article seems to be more focused on existing problems rather than warning about possible future ones. ppl being evicted, trapped in their jobs, abused by police and so on are clearly pretty big issues

ogmor, Friday, 2 February 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link

The takeaway that I got from the article is that since the justice system tends to mostly work for certain crimes and for people of a certain class/race/gender, as much as some of us would love to lock up or fine sexual predators/harassers this is not practical. Instead we have to address wealth inequality, the patriarchy, power inequality between the sexes. Which I agree with.

Yerac, Friday, 2 February 2018 15:44 (six years ago) link

whats going on w Rose McGowan? apparently she was heckled by a trans activist and decided she doesn't want the stress and now people are dragging her on Twitter for not wanting to put herself in this abusive situation. people are acting like she owes them something. it is pretty sad.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 3 February 2018 01:26 (six years ago) link

Yeah I see the usual twitter assholes calling her a TERF

President Keyes, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:01 (six years ago) link

the stuff she said looks bad in print but on the video it seems like a reaction to being shouted at for quite awhile

President Keyes, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:11 (six years ago) link

woe betide the half-woke

mookieproof, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:17 (six years ago) link

woe betide the half-woke...

flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 03:49 (six years ago) link

the real battle then becomes: who gets to define the all-woke and half-woke, combined with the fierce rise of the woker-than-thou.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:03 (six years ago) link

ain't no such thing as halfway woke

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:44 (six years ago) link

there absolutely is

flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link

happens to me every morning

flappy bird, Saturday, 3 February 2018 04:46 (six years ago) link

"woe betide the half-woke" is actually a pretty deep sentiment in the present cultural environment imo - I grew up around Marxists who hated liberals much, much more than they hated conservatives, and I'm friends with plenty of people like that right now; the tendency to think of a partial ally, or a flawed ally, or an anything-less-than-100%-onboard-with-the-program ally as more deserving of enemy status than an enemy -- this is totally familiar territory for anybody who's spent time in communist part meetings, but it's got reach now. I consider this really unhealthy, even though I do think it's very healthy for white liberals to be reminded that meaning well in your heart is bare-minimum stuff, not you-get-a-cookie stuff. but the act of denying the cookie isn't really worth the camera time it's getting rn imo

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:28 (six years ago) link

*party obv

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link

At least in the pre-internet days you could have a private life and a social life that was separate. Life these days is an eternal Central Committee meeting.

treeship 2, Saturday, 3 February 2018 13:57 (six years ago) link


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