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there's really no rational reason jerry should despise newman while having no problem with kramer

I always say Kramer as well mannered and had good intentions, whereas Newman was just devious and was always out for himself.

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 12:48 (six years ago) link

(from wiki)

His [Lawrence Tierney] performance was brilliant, and they contemplated making him a recurring character. However, when he was caught stealing a knife from the set, and later pulling it on Seinfeld in a threatening fashion, it became clear that he would not be invited back

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link

(that was response to Wins re Elaines Dad)

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 12:52 (six years ago) link

Although I recall the DVD commentary version of that being slightly different and not mentioning the threatening part at all, just that he stole cutlery and kept hiding it from Jerry.

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

^^ could've been the inspiration for the guy casted as Kramer for Jerry and George's pilot who stole (or didn't steal) the raisins

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 12:56 (six years ago) link

Wasn’t it Larry David who dated at some point Richard Yates’ daughter?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 13:21 (six years ago) link

Thanks for the heads up on this being a behind-the-scenes thing, clemenza. I'm interested in reading it now that I know it isn't the instantly-clearanced quickie boilerplate pop culture cash-in that it appeared to be at first blush. I love in-depth televisual post-mortems, e.g. Bill Carter's NBC late night books and the Simpsons oral history.

Senior Soft-Serve Tech at the Froyo Arroyo (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 13:29 (six years ago) link

No, she's a good writer--recommend the Mary Tyler Moore Show book too.

The knife-pulling episode comes up in the book, too. (The episode would have been on the air before Reservoir Dogs.) Also: Richard Yates evidently hated the character, although there was some suggestion he was just playing up his gruffness and secretly loved it.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 13:33 (six years ago) link

I think so--it think it was David who dated Yates' daughter.

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 13:34 (six years ago) link

just bought this book thanks to the revive. sounds great.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

it's mostly all in this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9T7En0N2bg

Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:24 (six years ago) link

ah thanks Jed

In space, pizza sends out for YOU (Ste), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:00 (six years ago) link

two years pass...

🤯 The origin/making of the Seinfeld theme.

So much to unpack here...
First: This dude.
Second: He re-recorded it for every single episode
Third: the bpm set to Jerry’s timing?
Fourth: it wasn’t a real bass?!

source: https://t.co/yMj4bo4FVA pic.twitter.com/KGTRf2GDzn

— Ian Chan (@chanian) February 15, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link

Amazing.

romanesque architect (pomenitul), Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:33 (four years ago) link

incredible

Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link

Yeah that is incredible.

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link

ha, awesome. also that video someone posted later in that timeline about them adding nonsense lyrics to the theme for one episode!

Nhex, Sunday, 16 February 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link

Someone should replace all the dialogue in "Seinfeld" with slappy bass sounds, kind of like an update on the "Peanuts" muted trumped grown-up talk.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 February 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

I wonder how much money he makes off of those fake slappy bass sounds?

In other news, I just rewatched "The Mosquito Coast" the other day and was surprised to see Jason Alexander pop up as a hardware store employee arguing with Harrison Ford. I know his first movie was that classic slasher flick "The Burning," which was 1981. I guess "Mosquito Coast" was only his second, in 1986, which means there must be so many Jason Alexander screen tests out there.

I also learned, checking imdb, that he was a frequent guest on a show called "E/R." Not "ER," "E/R." Not only was"E/R" *also* about a Chicago hospital, but it starred Elliott Gould as one Dr. ... Sheinfeld.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 16 February 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link

The world has turned upside down.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 February 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

E/R also had George Clooney on it!

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 16 February 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

This is too much.

Load up your rubber wallets (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 February 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link

omg that soundtrack guy is a hero

babby bitter (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 16 February 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

thinking about that time somebody asked derrida if he watched seinfeld pic.twitter.com/Acb8UL7ZER

— ▀▀▀▀▀▀ (@immolations) April 19, 2020

mark s, Monday, 20 April 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link

derrida otm

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 20 April 2020 16:15 (four years ago) link

what's the deal with différance

mark s, Monday, 20 April 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

for people itt who love both seinfeld and football

https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2020/sep/01/david-squires-on-lionel-messi-going-full-george-costanza-barcelona

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

heat map vs bayern funny in and of itself but it being in a file titled 'penske' makes it even better. glad to see the puffy shirt in there too.

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

thanks for that, love the small details like the penske file and the vanderlay industries boards on the side of the field in the last panel... and just now saw the serenity nou in the first panel

Jibe, Wednesday, 2 September 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

https://i.imgur.com/UEEBFOi.png

calstars, Friday, 26 March 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

This is the beginning few minutes of Seinfeld Episode 72 from season 5. i am posting this clip here for educational purposes only!!!

Educational Instructions:

1) watch the entire clip and take careful notice to the language all the characters use. Particularly listen to "Mr. Tuttle" Gorge's boss. He makes several references to reading between the lines, understanding hidden things etc.

2) approx. half way through the clip jerry seinfeld suggests that sodomy may be a prerequisite for George's new job. The Elaine character laughs here (quite awkwardly) and jerry makes an absolutely bizarre face. interesting... wonder what julia did to get the job....

3) the homework assignment is to go find and watch the entire episode and notice the incredible amount of hidden messages and not-so subtle subtext of this particular episode. notice at the very end of the episode that george's 2nd prospective boss of the episode turns out to be in the exact situation that Elaine mentioned as a hypothetical... the significance being that the other hypothetical was the sodomy one...

so in a very sly and subtle way jerry seinfeld has brought up the topic of sodomy as a prerequisite for employment.... please ponder the significance of this and follow the works of people like "The Celtic Rebel" he helped me notice this level of social programming. Namely society encourages that you submit to sodomy for some jobs. For your own good I and kdix radio implore you to explore the possibilities of how pop culture is controlled through degenerative and exploitative ritualized sexual behavior and domination

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 20:13 (two years ago) link

well that was a thing I just read

A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUx7v75V2dg

Summer of George compilation

Pretty sure that’s Larry David’s voice playing George Steinbrenner

calstars, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

it is
Last two seasons are filled with episodes I've seen once and forgot about, if I ever saw them at all.

adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:48 (two years ago) link

Yeah like all the puddy and George getting married stuff.

calstars, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link

I didn't even know they dated!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link

I thought the backwards episode was brilliant, wish they'd done more fucking around like that

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link

I didn't even know they dated!

Not that there’s anything wrong with that

calstars, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 01:55 (two years ago) link

india episode easily the shows nadir imho

flopson, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

1: rewatching and it's all funny
2: in particular the fact that JS is the worst actor in TV history lol

mark s, Monday, 29 November 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

Agreed, casting him was a masterstroke

Nu-panique schnizzle (wins), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:31 (two years ago) link

yeah it wouldn't be the same with anyone else. the fact that he doesn't come off like a real person is important to the show; he's just the avatar of the typical stand-up guy where funny things are happening to him all the time and he just reacts the way a dumb horny teenager would

frogbs, Monday, 29 November 2021 18:44 (two years ago) link

to think they could've easily cast anyone as Jerry Seinfeld

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:50 (two years ago) link

thatsthejoke.slapbass

coombination gazza hut & scampo bell (wins), Monday, 29 November 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link

Jerry the "actor" and "character" is also the lead as support, the star comedian here as straight man (actual comedy biz terminology, so no quotes), who sets up and reacts to joke of other performers, the ones who are veteran sketch actors, while he's from world of stand-up (also in it, as "character" Jerry's profession). This as at least as old as The Jack Benny Program, but/and it still works. (I still watch TJBP on digital antenna station, but Seinfeld has finally disappeared into HBO MAX or NBC Peacock or some such shit.)

dow, Monday, 29 November 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

Of course, even with set-ups etc., each of the four principal has his or her own "subplot," story-line, even-steven, so eps like Rubik's Cubes(think this is what was agreed to after Jason Alexander freaked out because George wasn't or barely in an at least one ep).

dow, Monday, 29 November 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link

all true, except to add this: jack benny is a much better actor than jerry seinfeld (bcz everyone is)

this is why seinfeld is a funnier show than the jack benny show ("brought to you by LUCKY STRIKE")

mark s, Monday, 29 November 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link

i've been watching this at length over the last two weeks. seen all the eps but they never get old

Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Monday, 29 November 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link


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