LII :::: the super bowl of hate :::: philadelphia eagles vs new england patritos

KEY STAT: new england is 1-0 in super bowls vs philadelphia

halftime PHI 24 NE 9
final PHI 27 NE 33 obv

i will predict that if NE scores 33 points they will definitely win

Write-in vote for “fuck this shit”

sorry man. but think, if the vikes had beaten the pats in the super bowl you probably would've died

KEY STAT: tom brady has been in 7 super bowls. he was the worse qb by passer rating in 5 of them. of the 102 super bowl qb performances to date, none of brady's 7 are in the top 20

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write-in vote for snipers

KEY STAT: the eagles opened -5.5 pt dogs. 26 super bowl teams have been underdogs by 5 pts or more. 5 of those went on to win.

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KEY STAT: the team wearing white jerseys has won 12 of the last 13 super bowls. the patriots have chosen to wear white

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KEY STAT: tom brady has been in 7 super bowls. he was the worse qb by passer rating in 5 of them. of the 102 super bowl qb performances to date, none of brady's 7 are in the top 20

this doesn't surprise me. outside of the Steelers/Pats SB which I don't remember much about, all of the Brady/Belichick SBs have been very memorable, often hinging on a single crazy play (or in the case of last year's, a bunch in a row). obviously this is meaningless but they're really only a couple plays away from having a Buffalo Bills-type reputation

Why does everyone hate the Philadelphia Eagles? “fuck this shit”? “snipers”?

I know someone who tries to go to a different away game every year and she said the Eagles game was the worst by far, just nonstop swearing and comments about her body plus the occasional hurling of a foreign object

the Steelers/Pats SB

i don't remember much about that one either

the eagles not having their MVP is so sad.

um i hate both teams equally
perhaps i should have been less delicate

cluster bombs

Why does everyone hate the Philadelphia Eagles? “fuck this shit”? “snipers”?

can't think of another (north american) fanbase that actively prides itself on being assholes. like oh haha someone punched a horse and lol this dude intentionally puked on an 11yo girl, lmao so philly

someone really should break out the semiotics of philadelphia sports fandom. first along the lines of it being a heavily working class city that has been denied postseason success in most of its major sports for many years (eagles have never won a superbowl) and the kind of self-loathing + identification that brings. there are likely racial/ethnic components to this as well (ethnic whites in particular vis-a-vis the italian community here as coded thru South Philly + south NJ aesthetics cf Jersey Shore for more details), and i wonder if New England had as much of a drought if their fans would also have a bad reputation along similar lines. it's also really only poor behavior by the standards of US sports i think - in European sports Philly fans wouldn't even rate. but american sports are so much more genteel. there's also a confirmation effect. i've been to games, bars, have many philly sports fans friends and they're all decent chilled out folks. but every event becomes a confirmation of the narrative. eg there was a holding cell in the old Veterans stadium. otoh "One of the interesting facts that came out of Eagles Court was that 95 percent of the people arrested were not from Philadelphia." of course that could mean they were mostly from Jersey lol.

and the team itself does not embody those aesthetics at all. chris long donated his entire salary this season to charity. long, malcolm jenkins and torrey smith have been doing racial justice advocacy this season. the team is extremely hard working and cohesive (other teams whose fanbases don't have a bad reputation abide far worse troublemakers even in the division see NYG and Cowboys). the ownership seems pretty levelheaded. coaching and front office staff are all respectable. on every measurement i think the team itself is exemplary. and then you have trashy fans but every team has trashy fans.

tldr the team is extremely likable. if you hate them bc some of the fans are jackasses you may be victim to confirmation bias, i doubt the philly fanbase is in any real measurable sense more despicable than most other passionate fans in the US and almost certainly less so than in other countries where hooliganism is prolific.

i wonder if New England had as much of a drought if their fans would also have a bad reputation along similar lines.

― Mordy, Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:22 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the patriots had never won a superbowl and were mostly pitiful from their founding in 1960 until bradys first sb owl in 2001, boston sports fans can obvs be pretty awful but i dont think they quite compete with philly just cause the culture of the city is relatively more reserved, tho compared to the rest of the country north eastern sports fans bos-ny-phil are more similar than they are different, and i know there is some genuinely bad behavior i dont support punching horses but booing santa is pretty funny, and booing kobe who is from there when he won the allstar game mvp was downright heroic

oh i don't mean to imply that all iggles fans are assholes or even that the asshole ratio is necessarily higher in philly. (i like sports, i like being drunk, and i'm large enough to not really fear for my personal safety, but i have no wish to return to the nfl games i've seen in pittsburgh, dc or the meadowlands. and my eagles-fan aunt and uncle are very chill ppl.) i just don't think that other fanbases revel in that reputation quite so much, which is enough to make me generally root against them

nor do i think the racial/ethnic components are unique to philly (see also pittsburgh, chicago, etc.) although i am pretty interested in how nyc-area people divide themselves up between the jets and football giants

all that said, probably rooting for the eagles this time : /

just fyi that horse was a cop xp

even horses make mistakes

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Why does everyone hate the Philadelphia Eagles?

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lmfao

im rooting for philly now

lol

mordy is otm

as is that fan btw, fuck millie

it's strange because you've got bad fanbases who don't show up to games or know any of the names of the players, and then you've got bad fanbases who are drunk shoe-tossing hooligans, and it's really just a straight line from one to the other.

what I'm trying to say is that there are no "good" fanbases, but if anyone comes close it's the Bills, who trolled the Ravens by donating to Andy Dalton's charity and tailgate by bodyslamming each other though tables

at least you're not the Miami Dolphins fanbase. we hate each other.

I went to the Jets game earlier this year and there was a fight in the upper deck and the dude behind me said "man, must be a Dolphins fan totally wailing on a Jet fan". I said "no, it's probably two Dolphins fans pounding on each other"....they get pulled apart, yep, it's two of our own going at it.

KEY STAT: in the 2017 regular season, tom brady had nearly FIVE TIMES as many rushing yards per game as nick foles

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KEY STAT:

Q: In your past Super Bowls your offense has never scored a point in the first quarter…

BB: Thanks Mike. Yeah, all of the negative stuff in the Super Bowls we need to be aware of, too.

Q: How much do you look at that history this week and try to emphasize it to the team?

BB: Look, we try to score in every game. I know that’s probably hard to understand, but we try to go out and score and keep the other team from scoring. That’s our goal every game.

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what a tactician

lol that was kind of a brilliant response to a pointless question

are you considering scoring in the 1st quarter this time?

idk telling Tom you're down by 3 scores at all times seems like it could be a winning strategy

Maybe the deal they have with the NFL is that if they spot their opponents a couple scores in the first half, they get a big PI call in the second half.

Gooooo birds pic.twitter.com/YqqBofk29j

— 🇭🇹 (@PusssySushi) January 25, 2018

I grew up about 10 blocks away from veterans stadium and can confirm that all philly fans are assholes. thanks

BUT are they worse than boston sports fansno

i was in boston when the red sox won their first title in ~80 years and saw nothing close to the mayhem depicted in that video i just posted of phillys fans reacting to winning the nfc championship FWIW

lol i was at umass amherst and i saw a fucking battle scene out of a revolutionary war textbook

xp there was mayhem when they lost to the yanks the year before but generally we don't tear shit up when we win.

well tbf umass amherst is a hellhole

it probably comes down to which fans' accents are more hideous

they r both beautiful in their own way

lol i was at umass amherst and i saw a fucking battle scene out of a revolutionary war textbook

― sleepingbag, Thursday, January 25, 2018 2:14 PM (nineteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao tell us more

it's educational

i thought i read butler was on the field for a special teams play or two?

he was

one st snap recorded. that's like rubbing it in

i think i saw no st snaps all regular season, 1 vs jax, 1 vs phl

meanwhile on the field for 98% of reg season def snaps

anyway, i hear folks here are keeping their cool and the 2nd call to weei this morning was someone demaning belichick be replaced with mcdaniels

its gets missed in all the glory but belichick has lost a bunch of playoff games via being stubborn

Punishment also makes more sense as to why he never saw any snaps - have to think if it was purely strategic, BB would realize his experiment was going bad at halftime and he'd have gone back to Butler or at least began using him on 3 WR sets. BB isn't going to go back on a full-game punitive benching decision simply because the game isn't going well. Though that would imply others knew of the real reason.

going to guess he thought they had enough to win without him. and they almost did!

i think the gashing runs that the pats didn't have the linebackers to stop were the biggest single reason that philly kept being able to keep drives going, in the first half especially, but agholor became a really important 1st down target as those runs went away later so that plus rowe on jeffrey early which probably doesn't happen if butler plays add up to a significant factor

simmons' butler theory: belichick's gameplan is to start rowe on jeffrey. butler reacts poorly to the decision so belichick punishes him by sitting him the entire game.

that would line up with what we know but must've been a real ott meltdown from butler if so

he said "maaan fuck Donald Trump"

so, congratulations to the detroit lions for the official hire of their new head coach, the def coordinator whose team lost the super bowl despite the qb putting up 500y and 3tds/0ints

auspicious

https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/UMass-Amherst-Students-Riot-After-Patriots-Loss-472680563.html

good work kids

belichick's losing his entire brain trust this offseason right?

he wouldn't have it any other way

he's losing his coordinators but the shadow cabal will remain intact otherwise

brady is being traded to cleveland i heard

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the pats will keep winning as long as ernie is still around

Why haven’t I seen this video lmfaooo REALEST MF ALIVE now I know why we won pic.twitter.com/qnQITcmYtr

— EAGLES ARE WORLD CHAMPS (@DPWEarl) February 5, 2018

lol were playing indoors

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so is hiring ex-Fisher guys gonna be the new Moneyball

normally questions of how coaches impact individual player positions seem pretty speculative but this particular one is undeniable

wonder if anyone will hire dick lebeau. he's only 80

mordy I won't be at the parade, I'm already going to have missed a couple of days this week, but enjoy! hopefully it'll be less than 58 years til we win our next one

Ertz takes 17 steps and Collinsworth says he thinks they have to overturn it 😂😂😂😂

— Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) February 6, 2018

He also thought it’s my job to run with Tom Brady w QB wheel route on a reverse pass. Lmao.

— Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) February 6, 2018

when will the nfl wise up and play with a felt ball while wearing velcro onesies?

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President Nixon continues to monitor the situation in Philadelphia. - RZ pic.twitter.com/FajWFVmQFo

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) February 6, 2018

lol who did this

You Have Been Yellow Carded By a Moderator: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVPcMZkXcAEDcqI.jpg

brutal. who knew ilnfl even had a mod?

lmao

lol

Malcolm Butler: "During Super Bowl week, I never attended any concert, missed curfew, or participated any of the ridiculous activities being reported. They are not only false, but hurtful, to me and my family." https://t.co/XBTwXp6g2B

— Mike Reiss (@MikeReiss) February 6, 2018

http://www.wdel.com/news/more-people-hurt-arrested-in-new-england-than-philly/article_511d3192-0a8e-11e8-8f8f-73b3913769b0.html

another strong article

mordy are you parading

sadly no, just watching the stream from work. i got too sick to march w/ a few million fans in the cold :/ my brother is there tho.

Jason Kelce with the greatest parade speech ever. 🔥 #EaglesParade pic.twitter.com/qAqrGafcXs

— SPORTSRADIO 94WIP (@SportsRadioWIP) February 8, 2018

weird!

Trade, pending physical: Patriots are trading TE Rob Gronkowski and a seventh-round pick to the Buccaneers for a fourth-round pick, source tells ESPN.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) April 21, 2020

Huh

I thought he retired 2 years ago

We all did

lol

Maybe they should give a draft pick to Minnesota so they can get Favre as a backup