the genre known as dubstep - search and destroy

dubstep allstars 2 is still my favorite dubstep comp

also alex in sf is a dirty liar

Allstars 2 is the last time I felt I could really connect with the genre. It's a bitch move to diss something because of it's fans, but fuck it, I find the whole thing way too student-y these days...

Dubstep Allstars really need to get Oneman on the case. The way he mixes current dubstep with old 2-step is sublime.

My favourite dubstep qua dubstep mix is the Scuba mix from last year linked to upthread (I think it's on the hotflush website).

For a handy encapsulation of the new techno-dub/2-step revival trends check out this great mix here:

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=54397327&blogID=368375169

Tracklisting:

D.R.E.A.M.
dub rules everything around me
volume 1

tracklisting:

1. likhan - uwill
2. pinch - 136 trek
3. likhan - terre
4. pangaea - nest
5. untold - test signal
6. appleblim & peverelist - circling
7. scuba - outmost
8. peverelist - the grind
9. scuba - inmost
10. scuba - beta
11. peverelist - erstwhile rhythm (forsaken remix)
12. 2562 - circulate
13. benny ill vs. hatcha - poison
14. a made up sound - sleepwalk
15. 2562 - kameleon
16. pattie blingh - brother (2562 remix)
17. 2562 - channel two
18. ramadanman - carla
19. kode 9 vs. badawi - den of drumz
20. headhunter - locus lotus

nice piece by kiran sande over at Fact on dutch duo martyn and 2562 here. i've seen they've already been mentioned a couple of times up thread.

i have to say, martyn is really doing it for me these days. i have a great track of his on a mixtape (broken?? - poss unreleased) that has this lovely dreamy quality (despite the jiy-normus bassline).

I've probably avoided posting here since I can really only learn from this thread and not contribute, but what's the deal with Darkstar? I ended up downloading a couple songs from a Hyperdub release on emusic and it seems quite a bit different from a lot of other things I've heard.

RE: Appleblim Rinse FM Podcast

Is it possible to get it in more than 128kbps? A cursory skim shows t's probably best not wasted on a low bitrate listen.

the 128kbs factor has kind of put me off listening to the rinse podcasts (probably to my detriment). i don't think they come at a higher bitrate unfortunately.

what i've heard of the D.R.E.A.M. mix sounds excellent so far (at 320kbs!!). thanks for the linkage.

LOL@ the idea that pirate radio should come in high fidelity quality

perhaps this is something The Radio Authority could look into...

For one, this is a podcast for an established website, not pirate radio, no? Second, listening to just 10 minutes of this mix makes me feel like I'm in love. It's like the initial ambivalence I've felt toward what I've generally found to be too blocky and grimey for my tastes (e.g. Benga)* has been answered, and how. Like, mixes like this might be opening doors to new ways of approaching music for the next few years. If this was released as a CD I'd definitely buy it.

Rinse is a pirate radio station that happens to have a website.

Appleblim has mixed the latest Dubstep Allstars which you'll be able to buy on CD soon enough.

And which is incidentally really fucking good.

Tracklist?

Can someone explain to me the big deal about Flying Lotus btw? This is just Ninja Tune/Mo Wax redux, right?

I agree.

1 Peverelist - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #01] Gather
2 Peverelist & Applebim - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #02] Circling
3 Pinch - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #03] Get Up
4 2562 - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #04] Moog Dub
5 Martyn - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #05] Suburbia
6 Jus Wan - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #06] Action Potential
7 2562 - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #07] Morvern Dub
8 TTG & Selector Dub U - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #08] Harajuku
9 Peverelist - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #09] Infinity Is Now
10 Skream - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #10] Percression
11 RSD - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #11] Pretty Bright Light
12 Mungo's HI FI - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #12] Babylon
13 Komonazkuk - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #13] Bad Apple
14 Komonazkuk & Gatekeeper - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #14] Cheeky Herbert
15 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #15] Decisions
16 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #16] Put You Down (Ramadanman Refix)
17 TRG - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #17] Broken Hearts (Martyn's DCM Remix)
18 Geiom - [Dubstep Allstars Volume 6 CD1 #18] Reminiscing (Dubplate Version)

Wow no Shackleton. Interesting looking.

flying lotus is j dilla redux

for some people (such as myself) mo wax redux would be a very big deal

I think that's quite an insult to Dilla frankly.

You may love Los Angeles then!

Seriously it sounds totally instrumental hip hop '96 to me with a few '00s production touches thrown in!

I mean Donuts was only the end all be all of Dilla to guys Pincock. Most of Dilla's stuff was more than just production fan boy drool bait.

oh? how about this then?

most mo'wax >>>>> dilla

cough, splutter, choke

Well that's nonsense.

What Mo Wax do you rate, Vahid?

RPM? Palmskin Productions? UNKLE? La Funk Mob?

MW 004 Marden Hill Come On (12")
MW 005 RPM Food Of My De-Rhythm (12")
MW 006 Federation Life So Free (12")
MW 008 Bubbatunes This Is Just A Dance (12")
MW 009 Palm Skin Productions Time & Space EP (12")
MW 012 DJ Takemura* Hoping For The Sun (12")
MW 013 Palm Skin Productions In A Silent Way (12")
MW 014 DJ Shadow & The Groove Robbers In/Flux / Hindsight (12")
MW 017 La Funk Mob Tribulations Extra Sensorielles (2x12")
MW 018 RPM 2000 / Sortie Des Ombres (12")
MW 020 Attica Blues Vibes, Scribes 'N' Dusty 45's E.P. (12", EP, Blu)
MW 023 La Funk Mob Casse Les Frontières, Fou Les Têtes En L'Air (2x10")
MW 024 DJ Shadow / DJ Krush Lost & Found / Kemuri (12")
MW 027 DJ Shadow What Does Your Soul Look Like (12")
MW 028 U.N.K.L.E.* The Time Has Come E.P. (2x12", EP)
MW 029 Palm Skin Productions The Beast / Trousers I Never Wore (12")
MW 029 R Palm Skin Productions The Beast Remix (12")
MW 032 P Money Mark Album Sampler (10", Promo, Smplr)
MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12")
MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12", Promo, W/Lbl)
MW 031 Sam Sever And The Raiders Of The Lost Art What's That Sound? (12")
MW 032 Money Mark Cry / Insects Are All Around Us (7")
MW 033 DJ Krush / DJ Shadow A Whim / 89.9 Megamix (12")
MW 034 LP Money Mark Mark's Keyboard Repair (LP)
MW 038 Attica Blues Blueprint (12")
MW 039 LP DJ Krush Meiso (2xLP)
MW 040 Andrea Parker Melodious Thunk (12")
MW 045 Andrea Parker The Rocking Chair (12")
MW 049 Innerzone Orchestra Bug In The Bassbin (12")
MW 056 CD Various Excursions (2xCD)
MW 060 DJ Krush Only The Strong Survive (12")
MW 065 Urban Tribe Eastward (12")
MW 067 DJ Attica Blues Tender (12", Promo)
MW 069 U.N.K.L.E.* Berry Meditation (12", TP)
MW 077 LP DJ Krush Milight (2xLP)
MW 079 Attica Blues 3ree (A Means To Be) (12")
MW 083 As One Planetary Folklore (LP)
524 589-2 Urban Tribe The Collapse Of Modern Culture (CD)
MW 095 Andrea Parker Ballbreaker / Some Other Level (10", Ltd)
MWR 105 CD Major Force West 93-97 (CD)
MWR 141 CD David Axelrod David Axelrod (CD)
MWR 155 CD Jordan Fields Moments In Dub (CD)
MWR 159 CD Parsley Sound Parsley Sounds (CD)

and i left out stuff that mo'wax compiled, like dj assault, liquid liquid, dj magic mike, divine styler, etc

the only stuff on mo'wax that i don't like is the solesides-related stuff (blackalicious, dj shadow, etc) and the nigo, tommy guerrero, etc vanity projects that crept in toward the end.

highly rate: andrea parker, urban tribe, as one, major force west, UNKLE, palmskin productions, la funk mob, attica blues all the various awesome major force and carl craig and 4 hero remixes they put on those early EPs

Blech. I have to assume you are kidding or you haven't actually heard much Dilla cuz thinking Major Force West > Amplified, Stakes Is High, Labincalifornia, Slum Village, hell even Donuts et all is pure troller-y.

Anyway you will probably love Flying Lotus.

I thought it was all vanity projects haha.

Looking at that list it is now clear than I don't smoke near enough pot haha.

oh wait, so you're going to count "stakes is high" and "labcabincalifornia" as dilla albums? can i count LCD soundsystem as UNKLE albums? because tim goldsworthy is on those, too ...

to be honest, i'm not super-crazy about "stakes is high". or "labcabincalifornia". i own all of the slum village albums, but i've gradually come to realize that each slum village album has about three good tracks on it. more or less they just keep remaking "tainted". anyway dilla's not on any of them so much, particulary the only one i *really* dig anymore which is "dirty district".

yes, it's true, mo'wax is music for weedidated white kids in hoodies, quite unlike, uh, "labcabincalifornia"

anyway talking about mo'wax is probably not a bad precedent on a dubstep thread

I'm not counting them as Dilla albums, but there are Dilla productions on them! The song "Stakes Is High" is Dilla! He did what half of Labcabincalifornia? If you are talking about complete albums, then I am not so sold on most of Dilla's (either one's he produced or under whatever alias he was using last), but no way a collection of his best productions doesn't shit all over whatever group of warmed over sample-jazz Mo Wax you want to put it up against.

"warmed-over sample jazz" vs the thrilling sounds of late de la soul

Yay let's choose the further! Where's my Runaways UK record?

former, ahem.

Why is no one turning up to defend mid-90s Ninja Tune? DJ Food fans? Anyone?

stuff didn't age very well. i still have a soft spot for Journeyman though.

stuff on mo'wax is much better than the runaways uk because it's spacier, colder, darker, druggier. same reason most people say dubstep is better than other breaks-driven stuff, like, uh, meat katie. and why people say meat katie is better than the freestylers.

i like dj food! jazz brakes 4 and 5, recipe for disaster, refried food, the one krautrock / philip glass type music EP that came in the clear case ... all dope.

Runways UK is RPM. They sound almost exactly the same. And I've heard most of the records you list there and those are no the adjectives I would use to described most of them. But whatever I'm glad someone is getting something out of them.

runaways UK is rpm?

that's cool, i mean roni size 93 is roni size 2008, doesn't mean there aren't good and bad roni size albums

More like Roni Size 94 is like Roni Size 95.

there's always a line

MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12")
MW MFW 004 Various Mo Wax vs. Major Force: Time Has Come (12", Promo, W/Lbl

Are these two releases actually different btw?